Hey Hoglaw !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hey Hoglaw !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good luck with all that.Short of getting some of those blood suckers-Lawyers who will cost $'s to even start a lawsuit what will Honda do-give us new panels with the crap paint process they are still using?Many of us have spent a lot of hours at our dealers and on the phone,written letters to Mother Honda with nothing done.They at the top along with there dealers feel there is no problem.So short of a custom repaint many use a product like Liquid Glass and it makes my Black look pretty decent.Plus the Tech Spec tank protectors helped with my legs rubbing against the top shelter.I for one have learned to live with it as I love everything else about the bike way too much to get rid of her over paint.Life's short go for a ride:icon_lol:
Let me stir the pot a little. I am not trying to downplay anybody's complaints, but this was all the rage on the Victory boards, too. The Vics have clear coat but it is very soft and shows every scuff mark each time it is bumped. Like Honda, Polaris would not budge. Many of the Cross Country Tour models were well in the mid 20's on price and along with the clunk in the tranny going into first, it was a serious sore spot with the owners. At the end of the day--or maybe better said would be "at the end of the ride", you look at the complete package. Other than the paint, what other true issues are there on the B? Are you really gonna trade or not buy a B simply because of the paint? What is your better option????? Star Roadliner??? Vulcan??? Triumph Rocket 3????? Take HD for example---best paint on the highway!!!! But what else do you give up to get the killer paint? See link below:
http://hondaf6b.com/showthread.php?5219-The-hard-way
Most Wing and B guys are not "Peacocks"---they buy the bike to ride. Now don't get me wrong-- I love to Peacock as much as the next guy--but I am tickled with my bike, sorry paint and all. What I really wanted was the House Of Russleville Stealth, but I can easily live with the slow red. At the end of the ride, I am still happy.
Thank you for icing my head . So - it is not only Honda's way (?) . If another companies having similar attitudes , it looks to me , like a globally adjusted "system taking short cuts" to generate most money from the minimum investments .
No - this problem will not discourage me at all and I'm going to keep my B . If protective waxing , glassing will not make any difference , I'll trade her for signature-ized in Russellville bike , or simply re-paint locally.
Not just Honda: Now tell me about your complaints :icon_rolleyes:
http://www.victoryforums.com/showthread.php?t=120289
http://www.victoryforums.com/showthr...ighlight=paint
http://www.thevog.net/threads/fuel-p...problem.55532/
The crazy thing about all of this is that Victory makes an excellent motorcycle. I had over 20,000 miles without a mechanical issue and that is not unusual. There are some GREAT dealers out there--and some that are not--and Polaris don't appear to give a rats rectum about what the public thinks. I could go on and on.
My singular issue came over a nail in my rear tire. Pulled the nail and plugged it with a sheet metal screw and rode it 82 miles --one way-- to have a tire installed. Had my wife follow and then drive me back the next day. The belt on a Vic has to be adjusted after sitting overnight because of the alumumnm frame that expands with engine heat and must cool down overnight to get a proper adjustment. At the time I did not have a belt adjustment tool. Three days before going to Myrtle Beach the 2 closest dealers do not stock tires--1 week wait to get them. So I buy a tire from the local Honda dealer and take it to them and they have no interest in putting it on since I did not purchase the tire from them--Remember--they did not have one and would take a week to get and I was leaving for MB in 3 days. Victory is a bike that is succeeding in spite of the company that makes it and the dealers that service it.
Yep fellas---the paint on my Honda ain't that bad at all! :yes:
Oh--by the way---I now have a belt tension tool that I will probably never use again since the B has shaft drive---if somebody needs a deal. :icon_doh:
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this is what I deal with every time I wax my bike I have tried liquid glass over 10 coats and I still get this every time I talked to the dealer I got it from and they said they where waiting to hear back from there rep and I called today and the guy I was dealing with quit so now I get to start all over
Wow I have a red 2013 and mine isn't 1/20 that bad. I put LG on it day 1 and have been happy since. In fact, I put a coat on this past weekend and I can still comb my hair in its reflection.:yikes: oh I had nothing red on my cloth!
I think the hardness of the paint varies quite a bit bike to bike. Mine is so soft, every bug I have ever hit is imprinted into my paint, no exaggeration.
Regarding victory paint, I found it to hold up fine but the orange peel was so dramatic you couldn't feel proud to own it or show it off. Better smoother paint jobs came on appliances than what was on my 2012 Vic.
Mine looks good after a coat of liquid glass but that only lasts till I ride it . If I do a 200 mile day or more I have red paint rubbing off on my pants
I think this paint issues thread is pretty much "dead in the water"...Some claim the paint is lousy, others have no issues...I am fairly sure Honda has moved on from the initial complaints, which obviously is of no comfort to those that still have some problems with the paint coming off, pitting, etc. etc.. Fortunately for me I had mine custom painted before purchase as my wife did not like the stock red or black offered in 2013 and I have no complaints...I suppose those that have continued paint issues, can continue to deal with it, keep applying LG and hope for the best....The only other logical options I see at this point, is trade, or sell, the bike for another...Not an answer some may want but what are any other choices at this point??
Opas,
I am in the same situation as you. But I am still outraged by the piss poor quality of the factory paint. I feel the frustration of everyone here that has the issue. It is a fine machine other than this problem. The fact that I/we paid 20K for a bike with such poor paint to me is unacceptable.
However, Honda wont do anything about it other than replace a few panels for those that scream the loudest with the same piss poor paint.
I also painted mine but I shouldn't have to do all the work or pay to get a bike painted due to this shit! I just couldn't accept looking at mine in stock form. I will say I will not own another, and have told Honda that. But my little purchase from a major corporation wont make a difference...
I had a 1977 Suzuki GS750 back in the day. I don't think I ever put any sealant of any kind on the paint, only used common dish soap to wash it, and rode the hell out of it. The paint was cheap, I'm sure, but hard as nails. The thing of it is, there was really not that much total area covered by paint on the bike. The F6B has paint all over it. The paint is the dominant feature of the bike. As such, any imperfections are likely large enough scale as to diminish the owner's appreciation of it.
For mine, a '13 B, I just look at whether road dust is building up on the paint surface. Then I wash and dry it carefully and re-coat with lg. Then it's back to the garage. When the lg is fresh, it stays pretty clean on its own. All that said, there are myriad swirls in the paint and that does bother me somewhat. If I could make them go away without a custom paint job I would, but for now and for me it will do just fine. Strangely, the fairing is remarkably free of the swirls. Any idea why? The bags and the 'tank' are the worst.
I don't think any of this has ever crossed my mind when my feet are on the pegs.
How about we just ask Honda to reduce the price of the product by $3,000 and ship it primed and read for the buyer's choice of painters?
I have to agree with the crappy paint on the 2013. I have a black one and it shows every little imperfection. It's a daily runner so you'd expect some signs of use, but for the money invested, I'd like to keep it looking nice for as long as possible.
My paint problem has just taken care of itself. I don't recommend my solution to anyone though.
About a month ago, my girlfriend and I were stopped at a stop sign. The long and the short of is that we got rear-ended by a lady who simply wasn't looking. So, if anyone asks if a Goldwing F6B can do a wheelie; the answer is yes, when properly struck in the rear by a Ford Fusion.
All kidding aside, there's about $3,700 damage. Since many of the rear end parts will be replaced with new ones, I figured that this would be a great opportunity to take the rest of the paintable parts off and get in painted. My paint guy will cover it with several coats of a clear urethane. Hopefully, this will take care of the problem. Going with the 2015 Dodge Ram "Maximum Steel Metallic" color. Should look good. I'll post pics when it's done.
I have the 2013 Black with soft paint. It is what it is, Honda will do nothing about it. Put Liquid Glass on it and Just ride it, enjoy it. I'd much rather see Mother Honda address the neck bearing problems they won't admit that they have had for years and still do...I developed the 40 mph wobble at the 18000 mile mark. Now I get to pay the dealer to install All Balls tapered neck bearings to fix the problem and listen to them tell me that installing them voids my warranty.....Not to worries about that statement as that's what Attorneys are for in the event of a warranty repair.........................Dickie