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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmytee View Post
    The thing there is, you are comparing what is supposedly the new Flagship touring model from Yamaha to an F6B with your list of features that are not on your F6B.

    You are comparing apples to oranges. Pretty much everything on your list would be there if you were comparing to the Loaded Gold Wing which is Honda's Touring flagship.

    Granted, the new Yamaha there sports arguably updated electronics, but you are still trying to compare a 2018 Flagship model to a 13-14 F6B that was never intended to be Honda's flagship touring model, but a lighter dressed down Gold Wing.
    I accept that the comparison is not a direct one, but the Indian Chieftain (starting as a 2014 model) is a F6B competitor and has all those things listed above, minus traction control.

    Loaded Gold Wing is missing Bluetooth, traction control, push button start...and is priced thousands higher than this new Yamaha...but, it is an outdated machine. Still a great machine, but long in the tooth.

    Beyond the above...

    Some folks are awfully sensitive about their motorcycles, a manufactured product for profit made by the thousands in a factory...can't say anything critical about them. Any product has strengths and weaknesses, both are part of the honest conversation on forums like this, in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VStarRider View Post
    I accept that the comparison is not a direct one, but the Indian Chieftain (starting as a 2014 model) is a F6B competitor and has all those things listed above, minus traction control.

    Loaded Gold Wing is missing Bluetooth, traction control, push button start...and is priced thousands higher than this new Yamaha...but, it is an outdated machine. Still a great machine, but long in the tooth.

    Beyond the above...

    Some folks are awfully sensitive about their motorcycles, a manufactured product for profit made by the thousands in a factory...can't say anything critical about them. Any product has strengths and weaknesses, both are part of the honest conversation on forums like this, in my opinion.
    That's just it. You're not being honest in your comparison. I point out that you shouldn't be comparing the F6B to the new Yamaha, but rather the loaded Gold Wing. Then you bring up the Indian Cheiftain.

    You say the Loaded Gold Wing is thousands higher and sure sticker price for the loaded version with ABS and all the goodies from Honda is 29k compared to 27k for the loaded Yamaha. So there is a 2k difference in sticker price. I wonder which would have a better dicker price?

    Then to top it off, since you brought up price, I paid 15k for my brand new F6B in 2014. I guess I knew it didn't have some features found in the Loaded Gold Wing and other bikes. Perhaps that was one of the reasons a $20k srp bike sold for 15k.

    Like I said, that new Yamaha looks cool with some cool updated tech on board, but comparing a 2018 flagship touring bike to our F6Bs , just isn't the righteous comparison. That's my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VStarRider View Post
    I accept that the comparison is not a direct one, but the Indian Chieftain (starting as a 2014 model) is a F6B competitor and has all those things listed above, minus traction control.

    Loaded Gold Wing is missing Bluetooth, traction control, push button start...and is priced thousands higher than this new Yamaha...but, it is an outdated machine. Still a great machine, but long in the tooth.

    Beyond the above...

    Some folks are awfully sensitive about their motorcycles, a manufactured product for profit made by the thousands in a factory...can't say anything critical about them. Any product has strengths and weaknesses, both are part of the honest conversation on forums like this, in my opinion.
    I think you should run out and buy all the Yamaha stock you can afford, trade your F6B for a Yamaha, and join another board that praises and supports Yamaha!!!....Regards.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by opas ride View Post
    I think you should run out and buy all the Yamaha stock you can afford, trade your F6B for a Yamaha, and join another board that praises and supports Yamaha!!!....Regards.....
    If I were to be in the market now for a fully loaded touring bike I'd have to look at the Yamaha. Still, for that money, if I were going to consider a V-twin , I'd have to include Harley for the simple reason of the tons of available accessories.

    I would still be inclined to wait until Honda announces it's 2018 lineup before pulling any triggers.

    But alas, my F6B is rocking , LITERALLY . See you in the twisties
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    Ha! Take a look at MANY comments on the Roadliner forums. They are not too thrilled with their new 1/2 ton beast. My own tastes? It's ok if you are into v-twins, but I've been there, and I graduated to the Flat 6! I do like the idea of a 6 speed tranny, but all the electronic gismos, they don't mean much to me, I don't use the radio, or any GPS, and I don't need a "couch" on the back. I like to hear the motor doing it's thing. JMO

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    Hmmm

    Mechanicals notwithstanding, the styling doesn't work for me. The front is a mash-up between a Kawi Vaquero and the Can-Am Spyder Tourer and the back is like some '60's Truckster...

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    It is an up to date machine with all the features I want. I like the looks. Like others, I would prefer a V4 liquid cooled on a bike this expensive. Of course, that might tip the scale to 1,000 lbs+.

    A major advantage the F6B offers over any cruiser competition is that it is built on a standard bike platform...and, therefore, handles quite well. I think the handling makes me feel as safe as having ABS on a loafing traditional cruiser. That would be my concern with this Yamaha rig...the handling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OlyF6B View Post
    Mechanicals notwithstanding, the styling doesn't work for me. The front is a mash-up between a Kawi Vaquero and the Can-Am Spyder Tourer and the back is like some '60's Truckster...
    +1.
    Too many "angles & cuts."
    Like Picasso and Arlen Ness got together and were dropping acid while designing a motorcycle.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 53driver View Post
    +1.
    Too many "angles & cuts."
    Like Picasso and Arlen Ness got together and were dropping acid while designing a motorcycle.....

    Cheers,
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    You nailed it Steve...I am of the same opinion.

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