Who's BUYING the new 2018 Goldwing?

[GeorgeJetson]

[QUOTE=F6B1911;158781]I is.
Was seriously looking at the K1600B until last night.
but....with a
6-speed manual
Pearl Stallion Brown
Apple Car Play
NAV
8 year warranty
no fork seal problems (Michigan Roads)

I gotta believe the paint will be great as they are now referring to it as "Premium."


I was kind of thinking the same thing .. the K1600B was looking pretty good, but I like the new F6B (Gold Wing) better.

[98valk]

I'm thinkin' the base Goldwing with the DCT. Besides getting stuck in traffic and not needing to clutch, I think it will be real nice on the highway in the extra-over-drive gear that will downshift instantly when needed. Never needed to downshift with the 5-speed, and I get lazy on the road.

[ths61]

I'm thinkin' the base Goldwing with the DCT. Besides getting stuck in traffic and not needing to clutch, I think it will be real nice on the highway in the extra-over-drive gear that will downshift instantly when needed. Never needed to downshift with the 5-speed, and I get lazy on the road.

How does a DCT engine brake in the mountain twisties ?

[98valk]

How does a DCT engine brake in the mountain twisties ?

I know almost nothing, but I would think just like our bikes do now. It's not really an automatic driven by fluid friction. It uses a solid clutch connection.

With that said, I have no idea how you start from 0 without some sort of slippage. This is a learning curve for me. Look forward to trying one out.

Let me add: I believe that I read that you may want to pick the manual mode while in the mountains and pick/paddle your gear of choice.

[ths61]

I know almost nothing, but I would think just like our bikes do now. It's not really an automatic driven by fluid friction. It uses a solid clutch connection.

With that said, I have no idea how you start from 0 without some sort of slippage. This is a learning curve for me. Look forward to trying one out.

Let me add: I believe that I read that you may want to pick the manual mode while in the mountains and pick/paddle your gear of choice.

I thought you didn't have to shift like in a car with an automatic transmission. When you go downhill in a car, the only way to engine brake is by manually downshifting, else you keep gaining speed depending on the grade.

[adelii]

Im gonna use this opportunity to get a cheap F6b

[3Chief]

I thought you didn't have to shift like in a car with an automatic transmission. When you go downhill in a car, the only way to engine brake is by manually downshifting, else you keep gaining speed depending on the grade.

That depends on the setup in question. I had a Hyundai Velostar, or whatever that POS was, for a rental and if you weren't actually on the gas it would engine brake. That car did not coast for s%$t, and several newer cars have an engine brake setting on the gear selector.

[DaWadd]

The standard Goldwing with DCT is not available here in Canada. Only available on the "Tour" models. Otherwise I might be tempted.

[ShanghaiDan]

How does a DCT engine brake in the mountain twisties ?

Very well, until your revs fall below ~1200 RPM the bike is always in gear. Downshift with a flick of a thumb and you're engine braking as well as you would with a manual! The DCT is NOT an automatic with a torque converter - it is a pair of honest-to-god clutches, one on each spindle of gears. Half your gears on one spindle, the other half on the other spindle. The computer (in auto mode) determines when to shift up or down. It will engage the clutch, shift the appropriate spindle, then release the clutch all in about 50 milliseconds. And it holds going downhill REALLY well, as it senses the load on the engine and will NOT upshift unless you near redline.

The ONLY difference (other than not needed to squeeze a clutch and twiddle your foot) with a manual is feathering a clutch at low speeds. However, dragging your rear brake does about 99% of the same thing, and after an hour with a DCT doing really slow-speed stuff - I had no problems at all and felt I lost nothing compared to a manual bike. Other than the need to squeeze the clutch lever 200 times a block in thick downtown LA traffic...

[VStarRider]

I'm thinkin' the base Goldwing with the DCT. Besides getting stuck in traffic and not needing to clutch, I think it will be real nice on the highway in the extra-over-drive gear that will downshift instantly when needed. Never needed to downshift with the 5-speed, and I get lazy on the road.

I hear ya. For me, its DCT or bust. I took several back roads on the way home from work today, with many turns, stops, etc. I did a lot of shifting. I would prefer to let the DCT do its thing while I have my knees in the brees, or, at least just go without a clutch and shift with my left two fingers.