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    Still can't believe they didn't put lights in the trunk! Every little bit helps to prevent being rear ended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Av8er View Post
    Still can't believe they didn't put lights in the trunk! Every little bit helps to prevent being rear ended.

    I'm betting this will be one of the first aftermarket accessories to appear.
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    I had questions, Honda had answers

    The Honda techs answered all of my questions, except one:

    • The retractable thingy on top of the instrument panel is an air deflector. It replaces the windscreen louvered air vent. More effective and disappears when not needed.
    • The side crash-bars are still frame-mounted welded tubing like on the existing F6B. However, they now have these black stealth covers, so they look more discreet.
    • The bags open with the little square push-buttons (probably electrical switches) visible on top rear of the bags. The bags also open with the key-fob remote controller.
    • The extra holes beneath the rear shock linkage are to accommodate the optional center stand (which is always included in the GoldWing Tour).
    • ABS comes with all trim levels, from the entry level bagger to the air-bag Tour version. This ABS is apparently both clever and complex. Details went straight over my head.
    • There are no longer any fork seals to worry about – ever – because of the new front-end design.
    • The optional air bag is no longer manufactured by Takata (so you have a better chance of surviving its deployment!).
    • The top cubby cover is now hinged, instead of coming off entirely.
    • There will be an accessory rear LED light bar for the trim beneath the trunk.
    • The rear-view mirror assemblies fold both forward and backward.
    • The electric windscreen retracts back down to its lowest position when the bike is switched off, but it remembers its adjustment and returns to it at next startup.
    • The hand-brake release is the black rectangular handle on the left, at about knee level (see photo below).
    • The plastic engine covers are no more. Access to fluid level dipsticks is now more convenient, on the LH side of the engine.
    • Passenger footpegs have now been replaced with nicely integrated floorboards.
    • The last two gear ratios on both bikes are overdrives. The top gear is set higher than on current models (which would indicate a lower rpm at cruise speed and better fuel economy).

    This one I did not understand one bit:

    • The amount of handlebar turn (arc deflection) is less than on the current GW, to achieve the tightest turn radius, which remains nonetheless identical. My comprehension of basic geometry failed me on this one, but the Honda tech was very enthusiastic about it, so it must be something good – especially if you have short arms ...

    Other questions:

    • Because the handlebar is connected to the steering column via adjustable tie rods, I asked if that implied the handlebar angles could be adjusted fore and aft, as with Helibars. The answer is no.
    • I asked if the air filter replacement was still as exquisitely inconvenient as on the existing model. Ummm, huh, well, not sure, possibly, etc. was the answer. Which means it's probably about the same (I can't imagine it could be worse!) So with positive thinking, changing the air filter remains a good opportunity to discover and clean parts of your bike that you would otherwise never see.

    I probably forgot a few things, but will post if I remember. What I got out of the presentation is that the 2018 GoldWing was engineered to be the most advanced motorcycle ever built to this day, with particular emphasis on its very sophisticated DCT transmission, front-end suspension and electronic ride and engine controls. Feedback from the existing GoldWing customer base was front-and-center when designing the new bike. Several video crews were present, so expect to see the speech on Honda's website in short order.

    End of report.

    Below: Large, automobile-size handbrake release (on DCT models only)



    More engine to look at, less Tupperware.


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    Really appreciate all of the first hand info Circle-5. Very informative.

    Maybe they redesigned that rear brake light switch too. I don’t see it in the lower photo. What a P.I.T.A. that switch was, when the local dealer effed up my rear brake recall. effing morons... I’ll never never forget that debacle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Circle-5 View Post
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    This one I did not understand one bit:

    • The amount of handlebar turn (arc deflection) is less than on the current GW, to achieve the tightest turn radius, which remains nonetheless identical. My comprehension of basic geometry failed me on this one, but the Honda tech was very enthusiastic about it, so it must be something good – especially if you have short arms ...
    My guess is that the handlebar-2-front-wheel-turning-ratio is no longer 1:1. A smaller movement in the handlebars probably now equates to a larger movement in the front wheel requiring less steering input to go from all the way left to all the way right.

    I really wish they would have addressed the ergonomic handlebar position issues with some sort of adjustability. Some people have wider shoulders than others.

    Also, more exposed engine parts, means more cleaning time.


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