Anybody notice......

[ths61]

As with any new product; sometimes flaws are not apparent until they have been used for awhile.

Save yourselves some grief and aggravation. Let others be the field be the unknowing beta testers for a year or two.

Been there, done that, paid the price and the down time. Will let someone else be the eager guinea pigs this time as well as give the aftermarket some time to catch up.

I am interested in how they will continue to offer 10 year free map upgrades over the lifetime of the bike. If the bike has a 10 year run, that means they will have to offer map upgrades for 10 years after that for the last production year. I have yet to find a GPS manufacturer that supplies map upgrades 10 years after the product has been discontinued.

[Jimmytee]

Been there, done that, paid the price and the down time. Will let someone else be the eager guinea pigs this time as well as give the aftermarket some time to catch up.

I am interested in how they will continue to offer 10 year free map upgrades over the lifetime of the bike. If the bike has a 10 year run, that means they will have to offer map upgrades for 10 years after that for the last production year. I have yet to find a GPS manufacturer that supplies map upgrades 10 years after the product has been discontinued.

I don't know how long in actual terms , but the Garmin I just bought has lifetime traffic and maps for whatever that is worth.

[ths61]

I don't know how long in actual terms , but the Garmin I just bought has lifetime traffic and maps for whatever that is worth.

I believe Garmin's "lifetime" update is the "lifetime" of the unit. It is not forever. I have 2 Garmin's that still work, but upgrades are no longer available.

From Garmin's website:

"... if your Garmin product comes bundled with a nüMaps Lifetime or other lifetime map subscription, you will receive map data updates when and as such updates are made available on Garmin.com during the useful life of 1 compatible Garmin product or as long as Garmin receives map data from a third party supplier, whichever is shorter. ..."

[carpdm]

Been there, done that, paid the price and the down time. Will let someone else be the eager guinea pigs this time as well as give the aftermarket some time to catch up.

I am interested in how they will continue to offer 10 year free map upgrades over the lifetime of the bike. If the bike has a 10 year run, that means they will have to offer map upgrades for 10 years after that for the last production year. I have yet to find a GPS manufacturer that supplies map upgrades 10 years after the product has been discontinued.

I'm guessing the map updates are compatible with the Honda automobiles.

[dadeo]

Garmin is flat out lying in its sales material. I have one, I like the unit. A lot. But Garmin no longer updates its software for free forever. You will get about 10 years of updated maps at most. TomTom still seems to provide lifetime updates for as long as the unit itself works. TomTom does not have the fine print that Garmin does and I updated the one I bought over 10 years ago until it died last summer.

I have to note that I don't get free updated maps on any other GPS I own. Certainly not in any of my cars units. Charts for my marine unit (SIMRAD Northstar) are updated annually. But they come from a third party company that takes government charts worldwide, coverts them to the right format for my unit, and charges me about $70 a year as a subscription. This gets me an updated map for part of the world each year. If I take my boat to another part of the world, I can get another SD card for a few months, and return it when I get back (or I can add to my subscription and keep it). Updating maps each year costs money. Someone has to pay for this work, The data doesn't get into that thing by itself. Garmin has probably figured this cost into their prices, and I'd bet they guess that 10 years sitting on a bike handlebar is about all it will last, on average.