Long Beach, CA - IMS Show - Nov. 17th-19th 2017

[ths61]

DOES ANYBODY KNOW IF ITS COMING TOWARDS GEORGIA

HTH

The 2017-2018 Progressive IMS Tour dates and cities are as follows:

• Long Beach, CA: November 17-19, 2017, Long Beach Convention Center
• New York, NY: December 1-3, 2017, Jacob K. Javits Convention Center
• Minneapolis, MN: December 8-10, 2017, Minneapolis Convention Center
• Cleveland, OH: January 26-28, 2018, I-X Center
• Dallas, TX: February 2-4, 2018, Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center
• Chicago, IL: February 9-11, 2018, Donald E. Stephens Convention Center
• Washington D.C.: February 23-25, 2018, Walter E. Washington Convention Center

http://ridermagazine.com/2017/06/27/...orcycle-shows/

[Harper02]

Ok thanks for the info

[ths61]

Just got back from the Friday night opening of the IMS show. The show appears to be shrinking each year with fewer and fewer vendors. Here are some initial comments:

Harley has some 117 CI engines out and were handing out free HD Bluetooth headsets if you signed up to their mailer.

BWM had a K1600B and a Grand America on display. They said the Grand America is targeted for the 3rd quarter of 2018 and is estimated to start @ $26K.

Sat on the new Yamaha tour bike. It is @ 950 lbs wet and is quite wide between the knees. I think I would be bow legged after a long ride on it. It is a good looking bike, but would be too wide for me.

The new Goldwing did not inspire an urge to go out and buy it. I asked the Honda rep why they decreased the storage by 40 liters, cut the rearview mirrors in half and removed the saftely lights from the tour pack. He said it was in response to what Goldwing riders wanted. He said Godwing riders do not use the storage space nor want it. I asked, "what goldwing riders were you talking to?". He said he would pass along the comments on the missing run/turn/brake lights and the small mirrors.

The Goldwing/Bagger version did feel very light off the kickstand (The full wings were on their center stands so I could not get a feel for how light they were). The handlebar and wrist position is very comfortable. You can easily steer to the left and right extremes with out having to strain or lean forward. Wasn't able to hear the stereo. It looks like the passenger can adjust the volume on the rear speakers. There is a control panel on the top of the right saddlebag for the rider.

Harmin did make the GPS system. They said they are trying to work out the details so the owners don't have to go to the dealership to update maps. He said they had some online trip planer to make GPX files, but wasn't sure that Garmin's Basecamp GPX files would be completely compatible.

Spoke to a lady that was sitting on the back of the full wing. She said the back seat was not as comfortable as their current wing. They had a blue full wing that had the clear lower air defectors just back of the radiator vents and the clear plastic hand wings. They look good, but the installation hardware on the radiator deflectors look like an afterthought. It looks like they drilled holes though the deflectors and cowl and screwed them in with silver sheet metal/button head screws.

I spoke to some other wingers that attended the show and they had similar thoughts that Honda took away features they wanted. Some other wingers responded with "well, it is, what it is".

Saw a couple of F6B's in the parking lot (a stock blue and a black one with a bunch of toys on it). The black one had left his aftermarket LED lights on, hopefully his battery was good when he got out of the show.

Some pictures will follow when I get them uploaded.



These are going on EBay from $45 and up that they were handing out.



Hand and lower wind deflectors:





Tall shield:



Passenger Volume Controls:



Rear left bag with speaker kit:



Right Bag:



Inside of trunk:



Handlebar Linkage:





Two up:



Bagger:







Grand America:

[willtill]

This windshield looks HUGE Crikey... you could use theoretically it as an air brake by quickly extending it while coming down from speed...

Tall shield:

[bigdawg]

Thanks for posting the pictures. I'm going to the Minneapolis show in December and good to see what to expect. I for one am very excited about the new Goldwing. I don't mind it being smaller since I always ride solo and I can strap anything I need on the back seat or luggage rack. Did you like the new Goldwings better than the Grand America? I have a K1600B and love it, but expect to love the new wing even more.

[Sorcerer]

Talked with a vender that will be working the Mpls show and there not certain that the new Wings will be at Mpls show.😡

[ths61]

... Did you like the new Goldwings better than the Grand America? I have a K1600B and love it, but expect to love the new wing even more.

The leg/foot position is a bit cramped for me on the K1600B and Grand America. So is the F6B for that matter, thus the reason I bought lowered boards before I got it home. It seems both the Goldwings and Grand America have limited storage, but I like the idea of 7 gallon fuel tank and 160HP on the BMWs. The BMW's also have some vertical adjustment on the handlebars if you don't get the forged ones.

It is a tough question to answer, I would have to ride both two-up, but am not compelled to buy either at the movement because neither fit my wish list. Will have to wait and see what the aftermarket brings to both to address some issues.

The gal at the show said she gets @ 39MPG on her K1600B. What do you get on yours ?

[bigdawg]

I'm getting similar, 37-40 mpg.

[Jimmytee]

The leg/foot position is a bit cramped for me on the K1600B and Grand America. So is the F6B for that matter, thus the reason I bought lowered boards before I got it home. It seems both the Goldwings and Grand America have limited storage, but I like the idea of 7 gallon fuel tank and 160HP on the BMWs. The BMW's also have some vertical adjustment on the handlebars if you don't get the forged ones.

It is a tough question to answer, I would have to ride both two-up, but am not compelled to buy either at the movement because neither fit my wish list. Will have to wait and see what the aftermarket brings to both to address some issues.

The gal at the show said she gets @ 39MPG on her K1600B. What do you get on yours ?

You know that is something that has perplexed me about the MPG claims of the new GL1800 and the reasoning that they could reduce the fuel capacity. They were claiming 42 mpg as reason they could do this. I am not in the habit of checking my fuel mileage. I have, however done it out of curiosity. The last time was while riding mostly interstate at speeds of 80 - 90 mph. I was getting approximately 42 mpg then. So would the new Wing do substantially better? They're claiming 42mpg, I'm like I already get that mpg but now would have 1.1 less gallons. We shall see.

[GeorgeJetson]

Thanks for posting the pictures. I'm going to the Minneapolis show in December and good to see what to expect. I for one am very excited about the new Goldwing. I don't mind it being smaller since I always ride solo and I can strap anything I need on the back seat or luggage rack. Did you like the new Goldwings better than the Grand America? I have a K1600B and love it, but expect to love the new wing even more.

Attended the Minneapolis show over the weekend. No Yamaha or Triumph there, but got to see the new F6B (base wing), which I loved. It being smaller is fine with me too as my lovely wife doesn't ride. Each of the 3 Wings on display had different-sized windshields, so I was able to confirm that the windshield (at it's highest position) on the base Wing/F6B is too low for me, but the medium one is absolutely perfect. For those of you new to electronic adjustable windshields, you're going to love it. Was hoping to also sit on the K1600B to check out that windshield position, but didn't get the chance. With no Yamaha at the show, I was not able to check out the new Venture, but I'm trying to get away from a v-twin, so a Venture purchase is not very likely.