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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixol Phaane View Post
    I agree with your logic here... and I had the same thoughts and question of the multiple charges leveled in this trial. It seems reasonable to believe that jury consideration of each charge, in order of descending degree, would result in at least some finding of guilt. If the jury couldn’t get to 1st murder... and neither could they reach 2nd... then I would expect them to find for manslaughter, at least.

    I would have loved to sit in the gallery on this and observe the proceedings first hand.
    Quote Originally Posted by taxfree4 View Post
    The jury, in a second-degree murder charge is allowed to consider first degree murder and involuntary manslaughter which means that the jury had no intention of returning a guilty verdict no matter what. If this doesn't scream involuntary manslaughter, in my opinion first-degree murder, nothing does. I'd like to see the transcripts from the voir dire which his how the defense lawyers look for their plants to set this miscreant free.
    Okay, thx fellas. I just couldn't figure out why he didn't at least get found guilty on the involuntary, and it appears I am not alone in my confusion.

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    They know at the voir dire if they have the case clinched. Remember if you're guilty you want a jury, all you need is one, if you're not guilty then you usually go for a bench trial. I was rammed from behind in a telephone truck by a FedEx driver who they found out later was driving with a suspended license. My lawyer moved the case to another borough ( county) and I asked him why and he said "More people are on welfare in the Bronx so they don't care how much money they give away." These lawyers are in these courts every day all day and they know the judges and what jurys they need. If this had been a Bosnian illegal immigrant or a Canadian illegal immigrant he would have been guilty, it was precisely because he was an illegal Mexican that he was found not guilty.

    This is the anti-American mentality thumbing their collective noses at us without any regard for the rule of law. So I say game on - build the wall, cut off funding to these cities, stop traveling there on vacation, and start some necessary vigilanteism at the border and in the city as the "just us" system has failed and not because the law is bad. The problem is the only requirement for a juror is to have a pulse, they don't look at the facts, the law or the rules they just hold their noses through the proceedings all the while knowing exactly how they will vote. It stems from the refusal of immigrants from the non-European 1965 immigration act to assimilate into the distinct American culture, thank you Ted Kennedy. They continually refer to the land they fled as "my country", makes me want to puke. I never heard any of my relatives from Italy, even my new daughter-in-law from Sicily, refer to the land they fled from as "my country" She is going through the long and expensive process of becoming a US citizen and only speaks English, albeit broken, to my grandson. Until we start letting in people who want to become Americans this will only get worse. There will be these polyglot of citizens who refuse to accept anything American but will have no problem syphoning off the benefits America provides but never contributing to or wanting to join the distinct American culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taxfree4 View Post
    They know at the voir dire if they have the case clinched. Remember if you're guilty you want a jury, all you need is one, if you're not guilty then you usually go for a bench trial. I was rammed from behind in a telephone truck by a FedEx driver who they found out later was driving with a suspended license. My lawyer moved the case to another borough ( county) and I asked him why and he said "More people are on welfare in the Bronx so they don't care how much money they give away." These lawyers are in these courts every day all day and they know the judges and what jurys they need. If this had been a Bosnian illegal immigrant or a Canadian illegal immigrant he would have been guilty, it was precisely because he was an illegal Mexican that he was found not guilty.

    This is the anti-American mentality thumbing their collective noses at us without any regard for the rule of law. So I say game on - build the wall, cut off funding to these cities, stop traveling there on vacation, and start some necessary vigilanteism at the border and in the city as the "just us" system has failed and not because the law is bad. The problem is the only requirement for a juror is to have a pulse, they don't look at the facts, the law or the rules they just hold their noses through the proceedings all the while knowing exactly how they will vote. It stems from the refusal of immigrants from the non-European 1965 immigration act to assimilate into the distinct American culture, thank you Ted Kennedy. They continually refer to the land they fled as "my country", makes me want to puke. I never heard any of my relatives from Italy, even my new daughter-in-law from Sicily, refer to the land they fled from as "my country" She is going through the long and expensive process of becoming a US citizen and only speaks English, albeit broken, to my grandson. Until we start letting in people who want to become Americans this will only get worse. There will be these polyglot of citizens who refuse to accept anything American but will have no problem syphoning off the benefits America provides but never contributing to or wanting to join the distinct American culture.
    Spot on. Taxfree4 for President. After Trump completes his second term.

    I know that he won't run, but Ill be in good company when he's around.

    Seriously. There are more of us out there that think like this; then those you think you know of...

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    Quote Originally Posted by willtill View Post
    Spot on. Taxfree4 for President. After Trump completes his second term.

    I know that he won't run, but Ill be in good company when he's around.

    Seriously. There are more of us out there that think like this; then those you think you know of...

    The Silent majority. It rose up during the last general election. It will again.
    All I want to do is get close enough to sniff Melania's perfume, kiss Lynda Carter on the mouth and then I can die a happy man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by willtill View Post
    Spot on. Taxfree4 for President. After Trump completes his second term.

    I know that he won't run, but Ill be in good company when he's around.

    Seriously. There are more of us out there that think like this; then those you think you know of...

    The Silent majority. It rose up during the last general election. It will again.
    Guess who is being groomed for 2020 with the qualifications of being a "Female BHO". Straight out of SF and Willie Brown's sheets.

    U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) is the “inevitable” Democratic Party nominee for President of the United States in 2020, according to U.S. News & World Report senior politics writer David Catanese, citing political oddsmakers.



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    Good she's a train wreck and has about as much appeal as diaper rash. Although Hillary may see an opening and bribe the cash-strapped DNC, with the billions from the Clinton Foundation, to make her VP to give Harris gravitas. Once elected she'll have Harris taken out and finally slither in to the Presidency, seems far-fetched so did Ron Brown dying in a plane crash (with a bullet wound in the back of his head), Vince Foster's suicide (with the first witness on the scene reporting no weapon near the body).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ths61 View Post
    Guess who is being groomed for 2020 with the qualifications of being a "Female BHO". Straight out of SF and Willie Brown's sheets.

    U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) is the “inevitable” Democratic Party nominee for President of the United States in 2020, according to U.S. News & World Report senior politics writer David Catanese, citing political oddsmakers.



    u-s-news-kamala-harris-inevitable-2020-democratic-nominee

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    Quote Originally Posted by ths61 View Post
    Guess who is being groomed for 2020 with the qualifications of being a "Female BHO". Straight out of SF and Willie Brown's sheets.

    U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) is the “inevitable” Democratic Party nominee for President of the United States in 2020, according to U.S. News & World Report senior politics writer David Catanese, citing political oddsmakers.



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    Makes you wonder what (D)politician is not running for President in 2020!

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    Quote Originally Posted by willtill View Post
    Spot on. Taxfree4 for President. After Trump completes his second term.

    I know that he won't run, but Ill be in good company when he's around.

    Seriously. There are more of us out there that think like this; then those you think you know of...

    The Silent majority. It rose up during the last general election. It will again.
    Unfortunately the silent majority is going to have to be much more vocal next time. They'll be waiting for a Midwestern uprising again and are steadily working to destroy the silent majority at every turn.

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    Lawyers for Acquitted Kate Steinle Killer Seek to Have Gun Charge Dropped

    The dirt bag's defense is feeling pretty confident now. What next, amnesty and honorary mayor of SF ???

    Lawyers for Acquitted Kate Steinle Killer Seek to Have Gun Charge Dropped

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