Utter lawlessness - Kate Steine's illegal alien murderer is acquitted

[Ixol Phaane]

Again, complete obfuscation. Totally ignored every applicable State and Federal law on the books that I listed. Amazing, absolutely amazing.

What happened to your flaccid point/counterpoint comment ??? You are proved wrong on each count and then you resort back to generalized obfuscation. You got nothing.

If you knew anything about California politics, you would know how a SF prosecutor keeps his job. He doesn't bite the super-majority hand that feeds him. If you want to become AG of California, you sleep with Willie Brown.

What’s wrong, ths61? Do you need validation of your sad delusion of conspiracy? You won’t get it from me. Are you upset that evidence didn’t support a verdict of guilty in this murder trial? Too bad, get over it. Oh, you want to convict someone for murder because they have prior unrelated felony convictions. Good luck with that.

What do you want, man? Why are you listing every applicable State and Federal law on the books? What’s your point? Will you be making it anytime soon?

Could you be any more obtuse?

Seriously, somebody get this tick off me!

[Radical Taz]

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[willtill]

NBC news has a pretty good detailed summary on this:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...onable-n825731

IMO the prosecution was weak. They should've went after manslaughter charges. They stepped on their own collective wieners regarding this case.

[lake_carl]

I will support a conspiracy theory. The prosecution tested the gun and like many sig sauer of the model it fired, so they said nothing. Sig Sauer has spent millions trying to correct and compensate for this problem, Google it

[ths61]

I will support a conspiracy theory. The prosecution tested the gun and like many sig sauer of the model it fired, so they said nothing. Sig Sauer has spent millions trying to correct and compensate for this problem, Google it

The defense conflated 2 different Sig Sauer gun models to intentionally mislead the jury. If the prosecution did not debunk that misinformation with 1 internet search or news article, you should wonder why not.

The Sig Sauer model that is in the news for drop testing issues is the recently released model that the military chose. It is a Sig P320, not the model used to murder Kate Steinle.

sig-sauer-issues-voluntary-upgrade-p320-pistol

p320-m17-drop-test-roblem

The Sig Sauer model that the murderer used to kill Kate Steinle is a Sig P239. Not the P320. The P239 has a DA/SA 6lb - 10lb trigger pull which does not have any record of drop problems.

experts-question-decision-that-kept-steinle-jurors-from-handling-gun

So you can toss the defense's faux defense argument out with the truth that they are conflating 2 different guns models.

THE JUDGE REFUSED TO ALLOW THE JURORS TO FELL HOW HARD THE TRIGGER PULL WAS:

"... "I think it was an incorrect decision by the judge," said former Alameda County Deputy District Attorney John Creighton, who told ABC7 News he believes, had jurors been able to try to pull the trigger, the verdict might have been different. ..."

"... gun expert Roman Kaplan said pulling the trigger on the Sig Sauer P239 takes more pressure than many other guns. The pressure required is from 6 to 10 pounds, he said, demonstrating at his Pleasant Hill store, City Arms East. ..."


Hmmm.... The judge refused to let the jurors know how heavy the trigger pull is and the prosecutor does not call out the misrepresentation of gun models. Just makes you wonder what decision all the SF legal participants are trying to achieve from the jurors.

[crossbowme]

The defense conflated 2 different Sig Sauer gun models to intentionally mislead the jury. If the prosecution did not debunk that misinformation with 1 internet search or news article, you should wonder why not.

The Sig Sauer model that is in the news for drop testing issues is the recently released model that the military chose. It is a Sig P320, not the model used to murder Kate Steinle.

sig-sauer-issues-voluntary-upgrade-p320-pistol

p320-m17-drop-test-roblem

The Sig Sauer model that the murderer used to kill Kate Steinle is a Sig P239. Not the P320. The P239 has a DA/SA 6lb - 10lb trigger pull which does not have any record of drop problems.

experts-question-decision-that-kept-steinle-jurors-from-handling-gun

So you can toss the defense's faux defense argument out with the truth that they are conflating 2 different guns models.

THE JUDGE REFUSED TO ALLOW THE JURORS TO FELL HOW HARD THE TRIGGER PULL WAS:

"... "I think it was an incorrect decision by the judge," said former Alameda County Deputy District Attorney John Creighton, who told ABC7 News he believes, had jurors been able to try to pull the trigger, the verdict might have been different. ..."

"... gun expert Roman Kaplan said pulling the trigger on the Sig Sauer P239 takes more pressure than many other guns. The pressure required is from 6 to 10 pounds, he said, demonstrating at his Pleasant Hill store, City Arms East. ..."

Good comment ths61. I might add that it is unusual for handguns to have a pull less than 6 and when they do it is because of a special trigger assembly replacing the original - in other words, someone probably pulled the trigger in this case.

[ths61]

Good comment ths61. I might add that it is unusual for handguns to have a pull less than 6 and when they do it is because of a special trigger assembly replacing the original - in other words, someone probably pulled the trigger in this case.

The more one looks at the details of this case, the more it stinks.

[taxfree4]

I love the spirited debate but as someone who used to sit in a courtroom day after day all day, court watching we call it, to think the rule of law has anything to do with it and politics doesn't you're fooling yourself. First of all if the rule of law had anything to do with it this greasy little slimeball would never have been in the country in the first place. It is precisely because of politics that the illegal immigrants were allowed to pour into this country. Second, if he did happen to slip by the first time the subsequent arrests would have returned him back to "his country" but precisely because of "Catch and Release", "Catch and return" etc. policies that allowed these felons to keep returning to commit more crime. Then when Sheriif Joe Arpaio is successful in catching these mudrats by extended patrols President Obama sics his Justice dept. after him,POLITICAL, racial profiling works,. Politics also put him on the Public Assistance he was probably getting. The Bill of Rights, and its' protections, was only for American Citizens, however, due to politics i.e. politically appointed judges, and their warped interpretations we have extended, what should be an exclusive right of Americans, to these felons and they have a cadre' of free attorneys and endless budgets waiting to support these invaders. I am telling you down at the ACLU they were pumping their fists in the air and saying "Take that Trump." It's never political when a multiple felon, frequently deported, illegal immigrant murders an innocent women in a sanctuary city and goes before a raciallly, handpicked jury that finds him not guilty, nah, but President Trump trying to cut off funds to these cities, NOW, he's being political. How do we say it oh, yeah

Court cases cannot help but be political as they are heard by politically appointed judges, politically active jurors, politically appointed DA's and politically motivated defense lawyers. To think otherwise is to not think in reality. Actually, to take out this lowlife would be fairly easy just get a pistol within range, drop it on the floor near him and you'd probably hit him being those pesky triggers are so hair. A little vigilanteism is a good thing because sometimes the law doesn't make sense as in this case. It's like having your daughter murdered again, to murder this bum would be compassionate.

[choptop]

I love the spirited debate but as someone who used to sit in a courtroom day after day all day, court watching we call it, to think the rule of law has anything to do with it and politics doesn't you're fooling yourself. First of all if the rule of law had anything to do with it this greasy little slimeball would never have been in the country in the first place. It is precisely because of politics that the illegal immigrants were allowed to pour into this country. Second, if he did happen to slip by the first time the subsequent arrests would have returned him back to "his country" but precisely because of "Catch and Release", "Catch and return" etc. policies that allowed these felons to keep returning to commit more crime. Then when Sheriif Joe Arpaio is successful in catching these mudrats by extended patrols President Obama sics his Justice dept. after him,POLITICAL, racial profiling works,. Politics also put him on the Public Assistance he was probably getting. The Bill of Rights, and its' protections, was only for American Citizens, however, due to politics i.e. politically appointed judges, and their warped interpretations we have extended, what should be an exclusive right of Americans, to these felons and they have a cadre' of free attorneys and endless budgets waiting to support these invaders. I am telling you down at the ACLU they were pumping their fists in the air and saying "Take that Trump." It's never political when a multiple felon, frequently deported, illegal immigrant murders an innocent women in a sanctuary city and goes before a raciallly, handpicked jury that finds him not guilty, nah, but President Trump trying to cut off funds to these cities, NOW, he's being political. How do we say it oh, yeah

Court cases cannot help but be political as they are heard by politically appointed judges, politically active jurors, politically appointed DA's and politically motivated defense lawyers. To think otherwise is to not think in reality. Actually, to take out this lowlife would be fairly easy just get a pistol within range, drop it on the floor near him and you'd probably hit him being those pesky triggers are so hair. A little vigilanteism is a good thing because sometimes the law doesn't make sense as in this case. It's like having your daughter murdered again, to murder this bum would be compassionate.

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[taxfree4]

I love the spirited debate but as someone who used to sit in a courtroom day after day all day, court watching we call it, to think the rule of law has anything to do with it and politics doesn't you're fooling yourself. First of all if the rule of law had anything to do with it this greasy little slimeball would never have been in the country in the first place. It is precisely because of politics that the illegal immigrants were allowed to pour into this country. Second, if he did happen to slip by the first time the subsequent arrests would have returned him back to "his country" but precisely because of "Catch and Release", "Catch and return" etc. policies that allowed these felons to keep returning to commit more crime. Then when Sheriif Joe Arpaio is successful in catching these mudrats by extended patrols President Obama sics his Justice dept. after him,POLITICAL, racial profiling works,. Politics also put him on the Public Assistance he was probably getting. The Bill of Rights, and its' protections, was only for American Citizens, however, due to politics i.e. politically appointed judges, and their warped interpretations we have extended, what should be an exclusive right of Americans, to these felons and they have a cadre' of free attorneys and endless budgets waiting to support these invaders. I am telling you down at the ACLU they were pumping their fists in the air and saying "Take that Trump." It's never political when a multiple felon, frequently deported, illegal immigrant murders an innocent women in a sanctuary city and goes before a raciallly, handpicked jury that finds him not guilty, nah, but President Trump trying to cut off funds to these cities, NOW, he's being political. How do we say it oh, yeah

Court cases cannot help but be political as they are heard by politically appointed judges, politically active jurors, politically appointed DA's and politically motivated defense lawyers. To think otherwise is to not think in reality. Actually, to take out this lowlife would be fairly easy just get a pistol within range, drop it on the floor near him and you'd probably hit him being those pesky triggers are so hair. A little vigilanteism is a good thing because sometimes the law doesn't make sense as in this case. It's like having your daughter murdered again, to murder this bum would be compassionate.

Ditto:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/43bdfde...killed-by.html