2018 Steering Slop/Loose Tie Rod

[ShanghaiDan]

I don't understand how the reports of great ride quality from the front end are co-existing with the reports from Traxxion about having 1" of shock travel and the shock bottoming bumper coming into play frequently.

It's all about ratios and lever arms. My CTX700 has "only" 1.5 inches of shock travel, but because of the 2.5:1 ratio of the shock to swing arm, it gives me a little over 4 inches of travel before bottoming. So having a shock move just 1 inch is really not an issue, and doesn't mean anything without knowing the lever arm ratio to determine what that 1 inch of travel actual means.

[willtill]

It's all about ratios and lever arms. My CTX700 has "only" 1.5 inches of shock travel, but because of the 2.5:1 ratio of the shock to swing arm, it gives me a little over 4 inches of travel before bottoming. So having a shock move just 1 inch is really not an issue, and doesn't mean anything without knowing the lever arm ratio to determine what that 1 inch of travel actual means.

Someone needs to get a camera in that front end and film that shock shaft; as the shock is being articulated....

[ths61]

Someone needs to get a camera in that front end and film that shock shaft; as the shock is being articulated....

That would be a great video to have while the bike is being ridden one and two up..

Like the DarkSide GoPro videos showing the car tire's contact patches.

[ShanghaiDan]

Someone needs to get a camera in that front end and film that shock shaft; as the shock is being articulated....

Yep, it seems to me to be basically the same type of forces on the front shock as on a rear monoshock setup. Short stroke, lever arm for operation/usable stroke. Mainly in-and-out forces since both ends can rotate freely about an axis.

[Zteve]

Our B's rear shock has too much pre load and it looks like the new Wing's front has too little. Someone needs to check on the guys in the suspension dept.

[VStarRider]

Our B's rear shock has too much pre load and it looks like the new Wing's front has too little. Someone needs to check on the guys in the suspension dept.

Agreed. My rear shock/spring is too stiff, even with the lowest preload setting, under my 230 lb arse.

[opas ride]

I am beginning to think that some of you constant complainers about the Honda suspension issues should perhaps start looking for another ride...Nothing is perfect and no one will ever find the ultimate bike that satisfies all...Enjoy the ride, be thankful you can and do it and move on!!!!....Regards and ride safe

[Zteve]

At this point in motorcycle evolution you'd think the suspension would be a non issue. If what's being shown about the new Wings front suspension is true (which it appears to be) then it's kinda hard not to talk about.

[willtill]

I am beginning to think that some of you constant complainers about the Honda suspension issues should perhaps start looking for another ride...Nothing is perfect and no one will ever find the ultimate bike that satisfies all...Enjoy the ride, be thankful you can and do it and move on!!!!....Regards and ride safe

Opas... please. There is always room for improvement... in anything. Or should all of us be satisfied with our government issued cheese and sawdust bread? ...and a Honda OEM suspension?

[Sorcerer]

Agreed. My rear shock/spring is too stiff, even with the lowest preload setting, under my 230 lb arse.

If you are set all the way down your bottoming the rear shock. Crank it up to 2/3rds to 3/4 of the way. You’ll be much happier.