A motorcycle that seems fast today may not feel as fast a few years from now. I remember when the original Valkyrie first hit showrooms in 1996. The 1520 cc engine seemed enormous, and the Valk could outrun any cruiser of the day. When the Honda introduced the GL1800 in late 2000, reviews raved about how it handled, accelerated, and braked as well as many sport bikes. It was the king of touring, until the K1600 came along.
Nearly all of today's vehicles have impressive performance. Family sedans can turn faster lap times than serious sports cars from a few decades ago. Even Ford's F150 with the 3.5 EcoBoost will out-accelerate some motorcycles. These are very good times for those of us who like motorcycles and other vehicles. Let's hope they don't all get banned by some overzealous green legislation, leaving us to look back on today as a golden age.
So true. I remember seeing car ads from the 80s with manufacturers bragging about the acceleration of one of their sports cars or souped-up models. I think I saw a Camaro ad with the 5.0 HO V8 that ran 0-60 in 9 seconds. My wife's Kia Sorento would be car lengths ahead of that Camaro in a 1/4 mile run.
Former Ride:
2013 F6B Standard, black; sold 7/2019
Latest Addition:
2016 Gold Wing Level 3, red; SCT transmission stuck in manual mode
2019 Miles:
7,900 as of 10/6
I'm no expert on racing. But, when shifting hard, I typically lurch forward when shifting into the next gear. That lurch may help compensate for the time it takes to shift. I have read that some don't even let off of the throttle during a shift.
The DCT on the other hand is very smooth. No extra lurch forward. So, I would think it is a trade off and we are splitting hairs.
With that said, the new bike being lighter with very similar power has to have an advantage.
Albuquerque, NM
It’ll be the 1833 until 112 mph. The 1833 will not be insight of the 1832 at 125 mph. 1/8or 1/4 mile the 1833 will have it won. Out on the open road the 1833 will be taking a coffee break at a 112.
Automatics do not always beat manual shift. Depends on the rider. And yes, a good rider can shift as fast as an automatic.
There is a transition time between gears on both.
I for one, won't believe anything till I see a side by side race, with the riders switching bikes.
I cant see the auto doing as good a hole shot as the creeper first gear in the manual shift.
For what its worth,,,, My 2 cants.
ITS ALL GOOD
No first hand knowledge yet but I'm trying. I think the B will handle the 1833 just fine.
As a guy who has owned a 2013 and 2016 F6B, a 2018 Goldwing Standard 6 speed and now a 2018 Goldwing Tour DCT I can assure you without a doubt in my mind that the DCT will eat an F6B alive up to top speed.
I don't care if Marc Marquez is riding the F6B. He will finish second. Flame suit on. Facts are facts.
Beagle
You appear to be the only one commenting here who actually has experience with them all, so thanks for that. Regarding the DCT, if you simply "floor it" from a standstill, will it spin the rear wheel? And I'm not familiar with the traction control Honda uses, but I presume you can turn it off?
With traction control off you will spin the wheel. With traction control on the thing just pulls like an animal. In sport mode the thing will scare the crap out of you if you get on the throttle. My son has a CBR1000RR. First time he came out with me I put it in sport mode and left a light hard and my son was stunned at how fast it launched. But of course in a race he can darn near hit the Wings top speed in first gear.
Beagle