I don't really care one way or another as I have never owned an HD and probably never will...They are all over the place and they have comprised one of the best and most profitable after-market parts/accessories systems in the world of motorcycles, but I love my F6B and have never had any real issues with Honda bikes and at 75+ years old now will continue to ride a bike with power, smoothness, handling, and reliability until something else comes along if ever.....JMHO