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    Glock # 36 with a Pierce +1 grip in a De Santis pocket holster.

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    Not trying to hijack but I have to ask. I'm from Canada and with all due respect to our American friends, I do not own a weapon and never ever thought of it. Yes, I grew up with a dad from the military with a gun and I have shot and killed more animals with it than most hunters ever will. Yes we have crime but odds are so low I've never considered defending myself by shooting someone. It would end me up in the slammer and I don't want to be raped. Not a good alternative. Lol .

    Are things that bad down there that you have such a need?
    (Ya, I 've heard the constitution stance but I still don't get the obsession)

    Not afraid of being flamed here because I know you won't try and shoot me ! It will end you up in jail where you will get raped instead of me. Lol!

    Besides , Too many other things to worry about when riding. Wouldn't want to worry about a gun going off as well.

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    Its not bad in all places. But you never know. A wise man once said "its better to be tried by twelve than carried by six". In other words better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. Its not for everyone. I've been carrying concealed for 32 years. Way before it was legal in my state. I feel naked without one. Might sound stupid to you but its as common as putting my wallet in my pocket.,

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyluciano View Post

    Are things that bad down there that you have such a need?
    (Ya, I 've heard the constitution stance but I still don't get the obsession)
    For sure, Lucky, this is a legitimate question. Here's something to consider...the fact that many are walking around carrying concealed is a huge deterrent to bad things happening. Just review the news and you start realizing that many, if not most, of the mass shootings have occured in places where guns were supposedly prohibited. These were places like schools, theaters, restaurants, etc. who posted no weapons notices. That's like a welcome sign to any bad guys who want to harm others. So yes, IMHO, we need more "good people" carrying guns and fewer places prohibiting them. That said, it's a huge responsibility to carry and one to be taken very, very seriously.

    BTW, my personal favorite is a Sig P238. It's very small and amazingly accurate. And, with todays' ammo, can definitely do some damage.
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    Responsible gun owners are the first to grieve the loss of innocent life to senseless shootings, and the last to "pull" unless absolutely necessary. The mass shootings, and most shootings for that matter, are by irresponsible people. The responsible people who carry probably have the most respect for the life-taking power of their weapons.

    Here's where I'm afraid I'll get flamed. Having said that, and as a responsible gun owner myself, I am not opposed to some kind of REASONABLE (we can argue all day on what "reasonable" is) restrictions on obtaining a weapon, in an effort to keep them out of the hands of the nutjobs. I'm not sure what that would be, but I wish gun enthusiasts could keep from freaking out at the phrase "gun regulation" so that we can at least have a discussion (heated if necessary) about how me might go about keeping guns in the hands of the responsible and out of the hands of the nuts. Just don't shut down the discussion as a knee jerk reaction to the words "gun regulation." The goal is to fully protect the rights for responsible people, but not let the nuts tarnish that beloved right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcmike View Post
    Responsible gun owners are the first to grieve the loss of innocent life to senseless shootings, and the last to "pull" unless absolutely necessary. The mass shootings, and most shootings for that matter, are by irresponsible people. The responsible people who carry probably have the most respect for the life-taking power of their weapons.

    Here's where I'm afraid I'll get flamed. Having said that, and as a responsible gun owner myself, I am not opposed to some kind of REASONABLE (we can argue all day on what "reasonable" is) restrictions on obtaining a weapon, in an effort to keep them out of the hands of the nutjobs. I'm not sure what that would be, but I wish gun enthusiasts could keep from freaking out at the phrase "gun regulation" so that we can at least have a discussion (heated if necessary) about how me might go about keeping guns in the hands of the responsible and out of the hands of the nuts. Just don't shut down the discussion as a knee jerk reaction to the words "gun regulation." The goal is to fully protect the rights for responsible people, but not let the nuts tarnish that beloved right.
    I agree.

    Regulation is so controversial,,, Ya got the 'no guns' folks, and the 'no gun laws' group, and those in the middle.

    Even making it more difficult, the folks we don't want getting guns usually don't abide by the laws designed to keep them from getting guns,,, so the effectiveness of the laws is 'a bit gray'. Hundreds of thousands of guns exist, so naturally, not every one will be 'exchanged' in a regulated manner,,,

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    Back to the OT,,,

    Like Steve said, need more info as what we've been told is not nearly enough to know how it happened,,,

    I know very little about handguns,,, Would it be possible for a revolver on a loaded chamber to receive enough force on the hammer to fire? I know there are mechanisms in place to prevent this, but would enough force render those systems ineffective?

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    Some of your older single action revolvers that would be possible Scot. Anything of recent manufacture it would be impossible. The trigger has to be pulled to the rear before its possible for the hammer to go forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyluciano View Post

    Are things that bad down there that you have such a need?
    (Ya, I 've heard the constitution stance but I still don't get the obsession)
    Nah, no need, this is a cultural trend of late. Some of the southern states have liberalized gun regulations to the point of absurdity. Wear a kevlar vest in AZ or OK, it's the Wild West, baby!

    Also, carrying a firearm with a round chambered (I presume the motorcyclist in the article did) is not a good idea unless you're in a war zone and there is an imminent threat. That's basic military training. It's also common sense.

    And yes, I have firearms and a CC: license.

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    Always Chambered!

    Quote Originally Posted by austin_tech View Post
    Nah, no need, this is a cultural trend of late. Some of the southern states have liberalized gun regulations to the point of absurdity. Wear a kevlar vest in AZ or OK, it's the Wild West, baby!

    Also, carrying a firearm with a round chambered (I presume the motorcyclist in the article did) is not a good idea unless you're in a war zone and there is an imminent threat. That's basic military training. It's also common sense.

    And yes, I have firearms and a CC: license.
    I have carried a weapon, mostly pistols since 1978, everyday. An unchambered pistol, you may as well leave at home or in the trunk. Never had an accidental discharge (with a pistol), practice regularly and shoot to KILL. In this state (TEXAS) the law has changed, anyone can carry in or on their VEHICLE without a Concealed Carry. You can't carry into anyplace whose main revenue is 51% or greater of Alcoholic Beverages even if you are a Concealed Carry holder. State Police are authorized to carry for life as long as they qualify annually. All other Police fall under the Federal Law which allows Honorably Retired Police to Carry in any State under the credentials issued to them upon retirement.FYI

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