Not to single out anyone in particular, but I'm with Phantom on this one. It really irks me when someone takes issue with something and they have no first-hand experience to base it on. This happens frequently with the darkside subject. Almost always, the folks that reject that have no experience themselves. As far as I'm concerned, this should disqualify them from commenting at all. It's no different than someone saying, "If God wanted us to fly, He would have given us wings". Of course, similar comments I've read on this board are more along the lines of, " If Honda made it this way, who are we to change it". If possible, can we all try to make real world judgements, on what works or doesn't work, based on facts and not assumptions. That would be nice .