I was at the factory store in Duluth and tried on their samples for size. They had the jacket in stock, which I took with me, but the pants were out of stock and they won't sell the samples. I paid for the whole suit up front to get the 10% discount. The purchase was in December 2012 and no sign of the pants. I can see on their website that the pants are still out of stock. I'll be calling them soon to follow up.