Originally Posted by taxfree4
+1 ... I have always been confused by our leaders/people... we want our military to be boyscouts when what we need is stone killers....don't shoot back until shot at...I can see this spilling over into our law enforcement soon as well .... instead of shooting them/who ever off the fence and moving forward...
Good thing I am not in charge !
" Truth is often deemed rude, blunt and to the point which is why so few make their friend " Freddy Hayler ..352-267-1553 Sanford, FLA Gutterman6000@Gmail.com
Reading this thread gives me pause,so many thoughts and emotions on what we are seeing our world denigrate to.
To our French member(s).
Yes we feel your pain. Don't believe what our politicians say or have said about your amazing country and culture.I for one remember my history lesson that your country stepped up to assist in our initial freedom which allowed us to become a great country.What has happened there will become the norm if we don't all get busy on these cowards. These groups whether they are sanctioned or not by any group are nothing more than barbarous cowards. They will not stand and fight and know that the vast majority will NEVER agree with them.
As much as I don't want to go that way,I am afraid that in order to conquer this enemy we may have to become them.
In Africa they have killed over 2000 people in an innocent town of people just like most of us. Dealing with their problems,raising their children and no match for any military presence or aggression. .These small towns come and go with no notice of most of the world.Attacked by cowards with no possible resistance.
While we are observing this in the world,we also have to be cognizant of where our own society is going.Defending things that are wrong,allowing different entities in both our government and corporate world to lead us down the same path.Ignoring basic rights that we proclaim to uphold so dearly to further agendas that serve only a few. Using Christian religion to defend atrocities that are becoming more common.
The way I was raised and believe is if I have a beef,I stand for myself against the offender and get it worked out.Not sneaking around hurting innocent people. That has worked for 65 years successfully. That is a true man's or woman's way.
I say again these people that do this deserve nothing,they are cowards. Nothing more.
I was taught first not to be one and never accept it,especially from bullies.
Running the risk of being censored on the forum I say F**k these A$$holes. Off my planet-by any means necessary...
One has to go beyond organized religion to know the truth. Hope this answers a lot of what is going on.
http://www.ananda.org/ask/mary-mothe...-by-yogananda/
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" Truth is often deemed rude, blunt and to the point which is why so few make their friend " Freddy Hayler ..352-267-1553 Sanford, FLA Gutterman6000@Gmail.com
Following the butchery at the Paris magazine Charlie Hebdo, we are in the middle of another blizzard of post-facto hash-tag bravery. All over the Internet there are whole mobs holding up little signs: “I am Charlie Hebdo,” “We are Charlie Hebdo.” The idea, I presume, is to broadcast their commitment to the Western idea of freedom of speech and the press. Let’s put it plainly: The solidarity would have been a lot more impressive, more persuasive, some time before this week’s mass butchery.
Indeed, at our universities, newspapers and broadcasters, we have seen an ever-shrinking defence of free speech, a timid reluctance to take on those who claim special privilege to shut down those they simply don’t like. The great institutions of the West, the press and the universities, have been at best complicit and at worst cowardly when it comes up to defending freedom of speech — not from threats of Islamist fanatics with guns, but in much less demanding circumstances.
Where was this “we” when a video critical of Islam was mendaciously identified as the “cause” of the terror attack on Benghazi? Where was “we” when Hillary Clinton went on Pakistani television to declaim against this “reprehensible” video and revile its maker, and at the Benghazi victims’ funerals said: “We’ve seen rage and violence directed at American embassies over an awful Internet video that we had nothing to do with.” Where was “we” when the filmmaker was arrested, while to this day the butchers of Benghazi roam the Earth unmolested?
Where is this We of the Hash-tags when whole swathes of the press, and some political leaders, refuse to call acts that are plainly terroristic by their proper name? Can those who refuse to say the word “terrorism” after a terrorist act now claim they are Charlie Hebdo?
And where was We of the Hash-tags when President Obama made the inexplicable declaration at the United Nations that “the future does not belong to those who slander the Prophet?” More than anything else, that sounds like a fulsome statement of accord with those who denounce cartoons and videos and editorials about the “Prophet,” who riot after he is “traduced” by someone in the West. There is no “We are Charlie Hebdo” in that statement. There is surrender instead.
And what about our prophets, of the Enlightentment and democracy, who made free speech the core of our lives and politics? We are notoriously timid in defending them, and almost tumid with the desire to speak up for those who despise them. Why do we wallow in some shallow hollow of factitious guilt, moaning over our failings to “understand” after 9/11, after Mumbai, after London, after Ottawa, after Paris this week, rather than laying the guilt on the real perpetrators and the ideology that fires them?
Our universities bleat about inquiry and free speech, but they are feeble and craven, caving in to protestors and special interests, pleading “sensitivity” and the “wish not to offend” any time some topic or speaker threatens to “hurt” the professionally agitated on campus. Where was “we” when a band of fatuous progressives protested former U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice giving a convocation address at Rutgers University? She worked for Bush, so free speech be dammed.
Where was We of the Hash-tags when Ann Coulter was pre-emptively cautioned about what she could or should say by officials at the University of Ottawa? Where was “we” when Ayaan Hirsi Ali was humiliated and an honourary degree invitation revoked after campus activists at Brandeis University — faculty and students — protested? Brandeis mounted a defence of free speech that would have Patrick Henry drooling with envy: “[Ali] is a compelling public figure and advocate for women’s rights. … That said, we cannot overlook certain of her past statements that are inconsistent with Brandeis University’s core values.” A Presidential Medal of Freedom for that wonderful “that said.”
There are more examples closer to home: Christie Blatchford howled from the stage at the University of Waterloo, a pro-life speaker at St. Mary’s University in Halifax met with the feverish chant of “No hate speech in our school!” — and the administration, of course, shutting down the talk.
I could continue for a week. This part of the world has a sack full of pieties when it comes to free speech, but its own actions, and frequently its own words, put the lie to all of them. Bowing to ruthless protest has become a habit. Labelling speech some people simply do not wish to hear as “hate speech” succeeds in silencing it. In matters big and small, on issues from global warming to abortion, there is collusion — we call it political correctness — over what should not be said, what cannot be said.
It’s worth adding too that there is no such fastidiousness when it comes to images rebuking, mocking, insulting or demeaning any of the symbols — the cross, the host, the mass — of the Christian faith. The North American media and so-called comedy shows make a tiresome habit of slandering or crudely defaming the majority faith of the North American continent, all the while lying — yes lying — that they are equal opportunity offenders.
In the domain of the laugh-generators of late night TV, Christ gets a pie in the face every 10 minutes while Mohammed is awarded the incense of silence, becomes “he whose name must not be spoken.” Jon Steward is not Charlie Hebdo. He is that wonderful self-contradiction, a “safe-target” satirist. Bush jokes are the coward’s idea of humour.
All of which makes this hash-tag war, all the We are Charlie Hebdo manifestations, so very, very hollow. If we will not speak for free speech when it is shut down by special interests, protestors of the politically correct, on campuses and in newspapers, we manifest that we are not serious about free speech. There is no “we” after the killings. There are very few worthy of that claim … and, alas, under the shout of allahu akbar, 12 of them are now quite dead.
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And that, IMHO, is an awesome post
Ken (Hornblower)
When you capture these animals have public executions with every media outlet there to televise it. There was a very good reason for publicly offing someone as it put it on display, the consequences, to one and all, the result of committing crimes against your fellow man. We hide death these days, that is why bad children who grow into bad people, nowadays, they think they are invincible. There is a very decisive wake-up call when you see a public hanging or firing squad and you're the little rebel who thinks he's going to grow up to be a bad ass. Put every murderers, rapists, kidnappers execution on pay-per-view and take the proceeds and give it to the victim's family, watching it would be public service.
Great Idea!
The American version of ISIS.
There's a big difference, ISIS executes innocent journalists, civilians, despises freedom and supports terrorism. But then again there are some so-called Americans who believe the biggest threat to the world is the freedom and way of life of America.
Sir - I really admire your enlighten point of view and absolutely intelligent correctness . The only problem with "WE" is , that ... WE ARE NOT UNITED !
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