there goes the neighborhood

[taxfree4]

Just to clear up the handgun thing with some facts:

According to data from the*FBI’s uniform crime reports, California had the highest number of gun murders in 2011 with 1,220 — which makes up 68 percent of all murders in the state that year and equates to 3.25 murders per 100,000 people AND the strongest gun control laws*in 2011 by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence

Since the outset of the Chicago handgun ban, the Chicago murder rate has averaged 17% lower than it was before the law took effect, while the U.S. murder rate has averaged 25% lower.

A 1994 survey conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that Americans use guns to frighten away intruders who are breaking into their homes about 498,000 times per year.

In the US 200,000 times a year women use a gun to defend themselves against sexual abuse

Nations with*strict gun control laws have substantially higher murder rates*than those who do not in general.*In fact, the 9 European nations with the*lowest*gun ownership rate have a combined murder rate 3x that of the 9 European nations with the*highest*gun ownership rate.

In the decade following the Labor party's election and banning of handguns in 1997 in the UK, the number of recorded violent attacks soared by 77% to 1.2 million in '07- or*more than 2 attacks every minute!

In 1982, Kennesaw, Georgia passed a law*requiring*heads of households to*keep at least one firearm*in the house. The residential*burglary rate subsequently dropped 89%

Every public mass shooting*in the USA since 1950 has taken place*where citizens are banned from carrying guns.

[shooter]

Boys let me tell you its OK to say that it will be all hunky dory and everything but the ugly truth is you're not the one with young children whose property butts up next to this facility. Its always OK for someone until they are offended. To the OP I feel your pain. I would talk to local LE for some assurances on stepped up patrols during meeting times and maybe organize a neighborhood watch. And to those who say live and let live , if you think that works your head is in a bag.

[taxfree4]

Boys let me tell you its OK to say that it will be all hunky dory and everything but the ugly truth is you're not the one with young children whose property butts up next to this facility. Its always OK for someone until they are offended. To the OP I feel your pain. I would talk to local LE for some assurances on stepped up patrols during meeting times and maybe organize a neighborhood watch. And to those who say live and let live , if you think that works your head is in a bag.

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[GiddyupF6B]

Boys let me tell you its OK to say that it will be all hunky dory and everything but the ugly truth is you're not the one with young children whose property butts up next to this facility. Its always OK for someone until they are offended. To the OP I feel your pain. I would talk to local LE for some assurances on stepped up patrols during meeting times and maybe organize a neighborhood watch. And to those who say live and let live , if you think that works your head is in a bag.

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My head is far from in a bag, it's ignorant opinions like yours and your friend up there that have head issues. I encourage you to take this up with your local politicians, police dept, home owner associations, and whom ever else you feel needs to hear how outraged you guys are.....I wish I could be there as they laugh in your face and tell you to stop wasting their time. Go ahead and request additional patrols from the police for these horrible people who are trying to beat the disease of addiction. They're "halfway" houses all over this country where people go to get sober and live with other sober people to try and better themselves. These aren't rehabs or drug addiction facilities, they're houses with a community of struggling people trying to help themselves and each other. The comments here act as if a full blown correctional facility is going up where you and your precious privileged and entitled family lay their spoiled heads every night. They obviously need to help each other any way they can because people like you wouldn't spit on them if they were on fire. To each thy own and LIVE AND LET LIVE! Sober and proud of it!! I'm glad there's places that people can go to choose the path I walk.......even if it's in your backyard! Flame on....I won't be replying.

[shooter]

My head is far from in a bag, it's ignorant opinions like yours and your friend up there that have head issues. I encourage you to take this up with your local politicians, police dept, home owner associations, and whom ever else you feel needs to hear how outraged you guys are.....I wish I could be there as they laugh in your face and tell you to stop wasting their time. Go ahead and request additional patrols from the police for these horrible people who are trying to beat the disease of addiction. They're "halfway" houses all over this country where people go to get sober and live with other sober people to try and better themselves. These aren't rehabs or drug addiction facilities, they're houses with a community of struggling people trying to help themselves and each other. The comments here act as if a full blown correctional facility is going up where you and your precious privileged and entitled family lay their spoiled heads every night. They obviously need to help each other any way they can because people like you wouldn't spit on them if they were on fire. To each thy own and LIVE AND LET LIVE! Sober and proud of it!! I'm glad there's places that people can go to choose the path I walk.......even if it's in your backyard! Flame on....I won't be replying.

LIAR.

[terrydj]

Be more worried about your neighbors ????
You know the ones that drive home after having a few drinks at the club or sport with the kids in the car. The ones who speed, the ones that back out the driveways without looking. The ones that drink every night and still reckon they don't have a problem.
I think its best to look in your back yard first.
Remember without community support their may not be places like some are afraid of and then what

[taxfree4]

That's the point, because we are aware of our neighbors, who may be dangerous to children, you don't want them brought together in one large group and moved next door to you. If you believe one neighbor, who may be dangerous, is bad imagine a whole house full. You don't move next door to a fireworks factory even though they take all the precautions in the world, it's that one time that something goes wrong. I don't gamble with the lives and futures of my own , or anyone else's kids. As far as community support, I don't know how they do it in Australia but here they call it FICA. Its the four letter word that begins with an F and it robs your paycheck every week for 30-35%. That is about as supportive as I want to be. Most people are too busy raising their kids to have time for anything else, like babysitting grown ups so they don't fall off the wagon.

[shooter]

Another thing you tree huggers forget is that these people aren't here by choice. It is most probably court ordered. So they don't necessarily want to get better. Chances are they are still on the "juice".

[Steve 0080]

I personally do not buy into the "disease" theory ...Life is full of choices, sometimes you make the wrong one ! When society categorizes unacceptable behavior into a disease, then that makes the action "OK". Why can't the behavior just be bad, why is everything a disease??? Pick your poison, obesity,gambling,porn,drinking,smoking crack and the list never stops !!!

On my original post ..Why not join them...."keep you enemies close and your friends closer" It IS coming so why not join in and see if you can steer this in a way that would be acceptable to you and yours?

[Steve 0080]

big bird "I feel very lucky that I live in a country where I don't need to own a weapon to feel safe."

Sorry sir, but this is the one of the most untrue statements I think I may have read.... Life is but a flicker in time and today the light may go out !