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    Well between both of those activities that should raise the temp a degree - for about 3 minutes. I enjoy barbecuing more, it creates more greenhouse gases and I position it right under the ozone hole.

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    The Earth always recovers, even from plastic

    Fears over plastic-eating coral in Australia's Barrier Reef

    Sydney (AFP) - Corals in the Great Barrier Reef are eating small plastic debris in the ocean, Australian researchers said on Tuesday, raising fears about the impact the indigestible fragments have on their health and other marine life.

    The scientists found that when they placed corals from the reef into plastic-contaminated water, the marine life "ate plastic at rates only slightly lower than their normal rate of feeding on marine plankton", the study published in the journal Marine Biology said.

    Translation - the so called "fears" that are being raised are really the environmentalist wackos coming to the realization that the earth has an amazing ability to adapt and adjust to whatever problems man poses to it. The bags are basically polyethylene, an ethylene resin. Ethylene is a derivative of natural gas and petroleum, ever see an oil rig in the ocean? The environmentalist wackos are fearing this finding will neutralize another scare story, plastics are dangerous for the oceans, and eliminate a whole fear industry's stream of money, billions. Like the climate change wackos they exist on promoting fear, death and destruction with false data projected as fact but in the end exposed for the fraud it is.

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    PACOM believes in global climate change.

    Indeed, despite claims by some that global warming is a myth, there’s growing accord among analysts and military thinkers around the world that the repercussions of climate change will require the same application of strategy the military would employ when grappling with any foe. To that end, PACOM initiated a series of forums held throughout the region designed to brainstorm military-civil solutions to climate-related security issues. Pacific Command is already collaborating with several small island nations to help them cope with problems from rising sea level, such as saltwater encroachment into ground water

    http://www.stripes.com/news/pacom-no...enges-1.297433


    Business insider also has a few words on the subject.

    You May Be Denying Climate Change, But The US Military Isn't

    In fact, military leaders have been warning of climate change threats to national security since at least 2003. The authors of a report in 2007 told the Times the biggest change from 2007 to present was the increase in scientific certainty. (97% of climate scientists now agree climate-warming trends are very likely due to human activity).

    "We have to be concerned about all of the global impacts [of climate change], including here at home, where the Defense Department does have a mission in supporting civil authorities in the event of natural disasters," Sharon Burke, Assistant Secretary of Defense for Operational Energy Plans and Programs told Defense One in May. "We have to be concerned about all of it. We have to be pragmatic about it."

    http://www.businessinsider.com/clima...ilitary-2014-7
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    Political correctness has unfortunately taken over the military too. Three years was all I could take and I had to get out. There are some great leaders in the military but it's still government and the good people have their hands tied. The VA is a perfect example. Common sense has gone out the window and I'm afraid they'll never find it again.


    Quote Originally Posted by jaygollner View Post
    PACOM believes in global climate change.

    Indeed, despite claims by some that global warming is a myth, there’s growing accord among analysts and military thinkers around the world that the repercussions of climate change will require the same application of strategy the military would employ when grappling with any foe. To that end, PACOM initiated a series of forums held throughout the region designed to brainstorm military-civil solutions to climate-related security issues. Pacific Command is already collaborating with several small island nations to help them cope with problems from rising sea level, such as saltwater encroachment into ground water

    http://www.stripes.com/news/pacom-no...enges-1.297433


    Business insider also has a few words on the subject.

    You May Be Denying Climate Change, But The US Military Isn't

    In fact, military leaders have been warning of climate change threats to national security since at least 2003. The authors of a report in 2007 told the Times the biggest change from 2007 to present was the increase in scientific certainty. (97% of climate scientists now agree climate-warming trends are very likely due to human activity).

    "We have to be concerned about all of the global impacts [of climate change], including here at home, where the Defense Department does have a mission in supporting civil authorities in the event of natural disasters," Sharon Burke, Assistant Secretary of Defense for Operational Energy Plans and Programs told Defense One in May. "We have to be concerned about all of it. We have to be pragmatic about it."

    http://www.businessinsider.com/clima...ilitary-2014-7

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    Pacom Chief: Fiscal Climate Threatens to Hollow

    WASHINGTON, Nov. 1, 2013 Unpredictable funding and the indiscriminate cuts being forced by sequestration are steadily eroding military readiness and threaten to leave a hollow force ill-prepared for future demands, the commander of U.S. Pacific Command told American Forces Press Service today.

    The admiral said he’s particularly troubled by the long-term damage the current budgetary situation could inflict.
    Gen. Mark McLeod, who headed PACOM’s Logistics, Engineering and Security Cooperation directorate for two years until transferring to the Pentagon this summer.

    8/10/14
    “Seventy percent of the bad storms that happen in the world are in the Pacific,” he said. “Call it climate change, call it the big blue rabbit, I don’t give a hoot what you call it — the military has to respond to those kinds of things.”

    Unpredictable funding - Believe climate change = New appropriations,

    When you hold the purse strings you get to tell people what they believe

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    Old story in a new package

    “In the 1860s, physicist John Tyndall recognized the Earth’s natural greenhouse effect and suggested that slight changes in the atmospheric composition could bring about climatic variations. In 1896, a seminal paper by Swedish scientist Svante Arrhenius first speculated that changes in the levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere could substantially alter the surface temperature through the greenhouse effect.”

    After 1909 when R.W.Wood proved that the understanding of the greenhouse effect was in error and the ghg effect does not exist. After Niels Bohr published his work and receive a Nobel Prize in Physics in 1922. The fantasy of the greenhouse gas effect should have died in 1909 and 1922. Since then it has been shown by several physicists that the concept is a Violation of the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

    Greenhouse gas hoax has been around forever

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    The ocean temperatures here are 30 degrees and the bay is frozen for the first time since 1977 to the point where NYPD steel hull boats have come in and carved channels, again since 1977. If this persists the Army Corps of Engineers will be called in to do the heavy breaking. May the global warming god unleash his mighty power and free us of this icy cocoon we find ourselves in.



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    One of the signs of radicalization is having to respond to every thing that conflicts with your personal beliefs, using cartoons and slanders to belittle others is another sign. It was fun playing but it's starting to get boring, so if you can't believe NASA the DOD, NOAA, The US Navy and choose to believe the guardian and other rags have at it.

    Where are you on the Great Bell Curve of Belief?

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    bellcurveofbeliefAs you rightly point out, you can’t answer the question, “Where are you on the Great Bell Curve of Belief?” without a specific belief to consider. You may be “YES!” on global warming, “YES?” on the Big Bang theory, “I.N.O.” (In Name Only) on political affiliation, “NO?” on Did Mossad do 911?, and “NO!” on Big Gubmint.’

    My contention is that for a specific belief, you and I will fall somewhere on that line, and the great mass of mankind will occupy that bulge in the middle. Does that seem obvious? If so, why is all our news and our discourse couched in either-or terms? Why is it a Liberal-Conservative battle? Why is it a Sunni-Shia conflict? Do we honestly think all Sunnis are sitting on the hot red YES! for everything Sunni and all Shias are sitting on the hot red NO!

    Do they think we are stupid? A scarier question: ARE we stupid?
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