Arsenal of Democracy

[jm21ddd15]

" I pledge alegience to the flag of The United States of America. And to the Republic for witch it stands". That should end the question of A Democracy or a Republic. Either way you describe our Country, It is the BEST on the Planet! If someone disagrees, then they can go somewhere else to live. I'm proud to be an American. We don't always do the correct things, but no other place does either.

[srt8-in-largo]

I understand the colloquial usage... but it's inaccurate. I wouldn't call a chicken a turkey and I don't refer to my bathtub as a tea kettle.

I also don't get how it seems to be a "Patriotic" fad to tell people who disagree to move out; this can be argued to be just the opposite... un-Patriotic... un-American... un-Free Thinking... and simplistic. If I wanted to live in a country where we were all FORCED to think in lock-step with each other, well, I guess there are countries that favor that.

We as a PEOPLE are great... and we as a GOVERNMENT are also pretty darn good. But as a GOVERNMENT, we've also done some conniving under-handed, and, yes, hypocritical things. Shall we put on the rose-colored glasses and look upon these things with smiles? Or shall we recognize such actions for what they are and strive to be better?

We show no integrity if we can't recognize our own faults; the greatest honor that can be bestowed upon the guys who died in WWII is to hold ourselves to high standards and continue being a place worth defending.

[Limoles]

5 ) I'm still thinking about "building # 7" , when nobody was able to put "the big stick" to support its structure ... and another as well . Where were you and what did you do ... to prevent ( not so mysterious ) collapse ?

[53driver]

5 ) I'm still thinking about "building # 7" , when nobody was able to put "the big stick" to support its structure ... and another as well . Where were you and what did you do ... to prevent ( not so mysterious ) collapse ?

Les - you lost me here.....I'm not understanding the reference to "building #7."

[stroguy]

It's a reference to government inside work on 9/11. Some folks have vivid imaginations.

[Limoles]

Les - you lost me here.....I'm not understanding the reference to "building #7."

Do you remember the day of 09/11/2011 ?
I did and it was the day , when I recognized all aspects of magnified FEAR and ANGER .
Then , we began to think , asking : WHY IT HAPPENED ? Did we deserve it , or not ?
Nobody should die in such a circumstances , but it also proved , that theory of
"waiving big stick to scare others" happened to be not so smart . Those , who love
the history and understand human nature , can stimulate their analysis even farther .

Beside , I'm still thinking , why "building # 7" collapsed and who was behind it ?
Most knows the answer , because was confirmed with engineers and scientists already.

Again - I still believe in power of "extended hand" much more , than any aggression against each other .
All those cocky , or cowboys style attitudes should diminish long time ago and doing so , it could attract
more friends and followers around the world . We are not alone and we are not entitled to poses all natural resources . They belong to others and these people are NOT worse than you or me . They have families too .

Beside , my question still remain valid : "Who start the fire" ?
Is there any of you , who make attempts to extinguish that fire ?



"An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind".
Mahatma Gandhi

[53driver]

Do you remember the day of 09/11/2011 ?
I did and it was the day , when I recognized all aspects of magnified FEAR and ANGER .
Then , we began to think , asking : WHY IT HAPPENED ? Did we deserve it , or not ?
...
Again - I still believe in power of "extended hand" much more , than any aggression against each other .
All those cocky , or cowboys style attitudes should diminish long time ago and doing so , it could attract
more friends and followers around the world . We are not alone and we are not entitled to poses all natural resources . They belong to others and these people are NOT worse than you or me . They have families too .

Beside , my question still remain valid : "Who start the fire" ?
Is there any of you , who make attempts to extinguish that fire ?



"An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind".
Mahatma Gandhi

To answer your question:
"Who started the fire?" is determined by at what point in history you say "go."

Les - so what is your "foreign policy"? Let's say Obama just made you Secretary of State.
How are you going to implement all your hypotheses?

[Limoles]

To answer your question:
"Who started the fire?" is determined by at what point in history you say "go."

Les - so what is your "foreign policy"? Let's say Obama just made you Secretary of State.
How are you going to implement all your hypotheses?

1 ) Brits , whose Imperial thievery appetite became the norm . Needed OIL made American Corporations wearing their boots so well.

2 ) Obama was a good , intelligent businessman , so I could invite him for a dinner to make a deal . That move could prevent growing terrorism , which you don't know , how to deal with anymore. And I wouldn't sent young boys for suicidal war , which didn't benefit my country at all . Did you know , that OBL was on CIA payroll anyway ? This is also a history .

3 ) To best of my knowledge I will answer to all your questions . Please continue ....

[53driver]

Les - either UBL (Usama Bin Laden) or the head of ISIS (whoever holds that post this week) or Iran's caliphate, or Iraq's leader or anyone else being invited to dinner does NOT equate to a foreign policy.
You have obviously no clue as to what is involved in foreign policy. Especially when it comes to treaties of alliance & protection we have with other countries. And yes, I too believe that gas should be $10 a gallon - like the rest of the world.

And when I - not shooter (let's get the rest of the names correct) - asked you to elaborate on your "foreign policy," you went off on tangents as a response so I am forced to surmise that you either have no legitimate response or this is a game to you. Rest assured that it is no game to me and forces me to conclude that you are in way over your head. This would be a good example of not knowing when to "keep silence and let others believe you the fool, than to open your mouth and leave no doubt."

Bottom line: I gave you a blank canvas to paint in whatever rainbow colors the mechanics of your global kumbaya hypotheses and you think a dinner party will resolve the issues.
Not even a legitimate attempt at a solution. FAIL.

It is obvious English is not your first language.
It is obvious from your views that you are from a country in Europe.
I reckon your family suffered in WWII and you have the US military or Russian military (I'm guessing the latter since you have such a chip on your shoulder towards the US military) to thank to end the Nazi suffering - and they did it without the UN's blessing.

[shooter]

53 I have never encountered anyone like Limo in my life. He is so full of himself and full of shyt that it blows my mind. The only thing that comes out is useless drivel. Most of the time it doesn't even make sense or relate to the subject at hand. I now have him on ignore. No matter if you say black he will say white , you say hot he will say cold. Its maddening. They probably kicked him out of his previous country.