I've just got one more thing to add to the subject. You guys watch Moto GP?. I never miss it. Several times a year they ride in the rain. Riders are losing the front in the corners like crazy. They are hydroplaning. On the best rain tires known to man. These guys don't use second best. We can't even buy what they use. The very definition of hydroplaning is when the surface of your tire is no longer touching the surface of the road. Instead your tire is running on a film of water. And down you go. I don't care if you are running on a 280 , a 180 , or a CT.