Black Lives Matter....

[GNW]

http://www.mynews13.com/content/news..._during_d.html



My question is matters to who? Certainly not to other blacks or people of color. I am not condoning people shot and or killed by the police. Police officers can and will continue to make mistakes. That is what the court house is for. Most cities have deep pockets and will pay when their officers are shown to be at fault. But...shooting 13 officers and killing 3 is not a good start. The people who do this need to understand that the police train to shoot. Not at tin cans or by holding guns sideways and jerking the trigger. The people who do this type of retaliation for "their side" are starting a war they cannot possible win. So far the police have responded with great restraint in the cities where the trouble was. This is a whole other story. I will predict this will not work out well for folks in the future.

And here is the crux of the problem. 94% of blacks are killed by other blacks. 6% are killed by others. .004 % are killed by police officers. I'm thinking the problem is in "their house". Here in Sanford when that poor young child was killed by zimmerman the ONLY reason this town did not burn was the fact that Z was 1/2 black and "they" felt that that was OK. Now the media tried to stir the pot but NOTHING happened here. Here is my second thought, or set of rules currently in use. It is OK for blacks to shoot blacks, it is OK for people of color to shoot other people of color. It is never OK for whites to shoot people of color!!! IMHO the reason for this is simple. If this ever becomes OK... then the war will be lost by people of color. The war or civil war will become about stopping the social entitlement programs, making people of color accountable and ending once and for all their lineage.

It also my opinion that police today are nervous about their safety in general. The actions tonight will start something that will not be stopped. Now, governments are having trouble hiring officers. Tonight will make it even harder. When the day comes when the police get blue flu and the people have to defend themselves, now that is when the party will begin !!!

This is a very sad night for the families of the officers involved. I pray for each one and hope the police can find a way to restrain themselves.

Good post.
Here in Lubbock TX the police dept. is short on patrol officers so they pulled 15 detectives to go back to patrol.

[Spanky]

I have friends that are cops, all of them tell me that some of the rumors are true. They look at people differently. they treat people differently. this is based on how people treat each other and the police. how it was explained to me: If you patrol, and see all walks of life for a period of time, you see patterns. Patterns of behavior that are consistent through every race. the stereotypes are true, Whites usually think they did nothing wrong, and are dismissive but will obey commands. Asians are most likely to drive poorly and will be ashamed when challenged, hispanics are afraid, and will most likely lie. African americans will be the hardest to deal with, as they, EVEN when wrong, will fight you and lie, they fight most often and will run most often.

They go on to say, now, when you deal with this day in and day out, for years, you develop techniques to deal with each person sometimes, you go in with compassion, sometimes force. that's the way it is.

The solution? well that's easy to answer. the cops treat people differently, because they are treated differently. It comes down to personal responsibility. Act the same and you will be treated the same!

Don't do crime, and if you do get caught, then man up!

I was taught during a stop to turn on the lights, if needed, treat the officer with respect, as you did something wrong. In the south you announce that you have a permit to carry and keep your hands in plain view! move when instructed to.

it baffles me when people run from cops, or fight them. I feel guilty calling out the behavior of other folks, as a white guy i'm told it's "white privilege" which is a crock of BS. People of all color need to take responsibility for their actions " if you want to be treated with respect, then give it! If you want to be treated like a punk, then act like one!

[Steve 0080]

I have friends that are cops, all of them tell me that some of the rumors are true. They look at people differently. they treat people differently. this is based on how people treat each other and the police. how it was explained to me: If you patrol, and see all walks of life for a period of time, you see patterns. Patterns of behavior that are consistent through every race. the stereotypes are true, Whites usually think they did nothing wrong, and are dismissive but will obey commands. Asians are most likely to drive poorly and will be ashamed when challenged, hispanics are afraid, and will most likely lie. African americans will be the hardest to deal with, as they, EVEN when wrong, will fight you and lie, they fight most often and will run most often.

They go on to say, now, when you deal with this day in and day out, for years, you develop techniques to deal with each person sometimes, you go in with compassion, sometimes force. that's the way it is.

The solution? well that's easy to answer. the cops treat people differently, because they are treated differently. It comes down to personal responsibility. Act the same and you will be treated the same!

Don't do crime, and if you do get caught, then man up!

I was taught during a stop to turn on the lights, if needed, treat the officer with respect, as you did something wrong. In the south you announce that you have a permit to carry and keep your hands in plain view! move when instructed to.

it baffles me when people run from cops, or fight them. I feel guilty calling out the behavior of other folks, as a white guy i'm told it's "white privilege" which is a crock of BS. People of all color need to take responsibility for their actions " if you want to be treated with respect, then give it! If you want to be treated like a punk, then act like one!

GREAT POST!!!!!!!

This is the most accurate verbatim about the day to day interaction that police have with citizens, that I have read because it is true word for word letter by letter. I grew up in the military. Being a military brat it was common place to have people of color to our home for events, dinner and the like. They were no different then anyone else. Their kids were the same and so on. When I became a Police Officer I was given a rude and at times awkward education. The difference among us is not just about color but so much more different is our cultures. Most people interact with others at work or play and never really see how that person lives or interacts with their families or within their culture. Here is where the differences begin, and they can be vast! Each culture has their own way of looking at things and reacting. "Patterns of behavior that are consistent through every race. The stereotypes are true." This is a very true statement, but until you begin to interact with all the different cultures you will never understand them. As a PO you become an attorney, marriage counselor, physiologist, arbitrator, a saint and a sinner. All of the faces you put on are necessary for you to preform your job and do it well. It takes about five years before you figure it out and become comfortable do it. In that time you do make mistakes, it is a normal learning curve. For me is was all about being respectful to each and every person I came in contact with. Wether a bum or a doctor, ascending and descending the social ladder of life and doing that every time you got out of the car!
I write this to say that it is a tough job that no one will ever understand until you do it. It along with the garbage man is an occupation where you can travel the world and share experience with like people and still tell the same stories and laugh at it.

[Nightwing_67]

GREAT POST!!!!!!!

This is the most accurate verbatim about the day to day interaction that police have with citizens, that I have read because it is true word for word letter by letter. I grew up in the military. Being a military brat it was common place to have people of color to our home for events, dinner and the like. They were no different then anyone else. Their kids were the same and so on. When I became a Police Officer I was given a rude and at times awkward education. The difference among us is not just about color but so much more different is our cultures. Most people interact with others at work or play and never really see how that person lives or interacts with their families or within their culture. Here is where the differences begin, and they can be vast! Each culture has their own way of looking at things and reacting. "Patterns of behavior that are consistent through every race. The stereotypes are true." This is a very true statement, but until you begin to interact with all the different cultures you will never understand them. As a PO you become an attorney, marriage counselor, physiologist, arbitrator, a saint and a sinner. All of the faces you put on are necessary for you to preform your job and do it well. It takes about five years before you figure it out and become comfortable do it. In that time you do make mistakes, it is a normal learning curve. For me is was all about being respectful to each and every person I came in contact with. Wether a bum or a doctor, ascending and descending the social ladder of life and doing that every time you got out of the car!
I write this to say that it is a tough job that no one will ever understand until you do it. It along with the garbage man is an occupation where you can travel the world and share experience with like people and still tell the same stories and laugh at it.

[53driver]

"I would like to see a national blue flu epidemic to hit. For at least a week. Including the Capital Hill police and the Secret Service.

People don't appreciate something until it's gone."

Can you imagine the hell and chaos after one week... better load some mags....

I'm G.T.G. up here Steve.

Wouldn't need to leave home... don't and wouldn't need to.

I think it's a lesson long overdue for others though.

Steve , if the police unions were strong like they used to be they would pull them off the street. I would love to see that. GTG here also.

GTG NW FL

[BuzzzPhotos]

I'm down in Houston all week and will be heading back up north of Dallas on Saturday. It's a sick feeling knowing bad things are going down while I'm away from home. My Son wrote this article this morning and I was glad and proud to read it.

http://www.libertynewsnow.com/dallas...as/article4919

[shooter]

Good article Buzzz. That's a boy to be proud of. I've got one of those also. Makes you have a little faith that the future can be hopeful with Men like that around.

[Nightwing_67]

My condolences for all the families involved in this tragedy. It is sad that these incidents are continuing to increase. Are there misguided cops our there? yes, but are there misguided citizens out there? absolutely, which is why police are needed. Police in general are reactive at best. We respond to situations cause something has happened and we get called in. There are times when we are proactive, like traffic enforcement units, drug units, Domestic violence units etc, but even in these units, we are reacting to something(ex:running a red light, selling drugs, beating on your wife) People need to understand that we DON'T get up in the morning and say oh man, I hope I get the chance to shoot someone today while doing my job.... Can the same be said about the CRIMINALS that go out with their gun? Do they say I hope I don't have to shoot someone today as I go out to sell drugs, or rob someone, or burglarize a business....We do however get up and pray to make it home to our families at the end of the tour. Police have a tough job, which is getting tougher everyday because some of the people we swear to protect are siding with the criminals. I have seen where a police officer is trying to make an arrest and people pull the police officer off to allow the criminal to get away. Where would we be if the police just stopped....didn't come when you called, didn't do traffic enforcement and a drunk driver hit one of your loved ones. How would you, the victim of a crime, feel looking into the eye of the police officer as he as he says to you, I'd like to help you, but I may get sued or I may go to jail if I do anything that would be viewed as too aggressive to the public. Listen, I sympathize when someone loses their life and if it was done with malice it should be dealt with appropriately no matter who you are. I grew up in a time when the police had a heavier hand, and as a Hispanic male, who has been discriminated against, I can tell you I have never had a gun pulled on me by a police officer because of what I was doing. any officer that I came across, I treated with respect and therefore given respect in return. I have had my share of traffic tickets and was even taken to the police station yet here I am alive and well. I grew up with values of helping your fellow man instead of hurting them. I have worked as a Paramedic for 30 years and a Police Officer for 14 years now. We as a society have to stop this "anarchic mindset". Support your police whenever you can cause as shown last night, they are the ones to run into the danger to protect others. My prayers go out to the families of these fallen Police officers...Greater love has no man than this, to lay down one's life for his friend