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    Quote Originally Posted by F6B1911 View Post
    Yeah,
    I'm not sure why the firearm manufacturers work so hard to make smaller and smaller options.
    Some of the current concealed options are too small to be used by your average citizen, unless they can make weekly trips to the range to practice.
    Anything smaller than a G26/G27 requires a decent amount of skill, control, practice, etc.
    Not sure the average CCW license holder could handle themselves in a confrontational situation under stress and come out unscathed.
    Either that or my hands are too big.
    For large hands? I like my Glock 30SF. The staggered magazine fattens the grip nicely and makes the reach for the trigger more natural and not an exercise in micro-ergonomics.
    It's very comfortable and conceals fairly well.
    Oh, and it's pretty dang accurate to 15 yards.
    At 25 yards it seems to get a bit more random (paper plate size groupings) but how often is that going to be a requirement in self-defense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 53driver View Post
    For large hands? I like my Glock 30SF. The staggered magazine fattens the grip nicely and makes the reach for the trigger more natural and not an exercise in micro-ergonomics.
    It's very comfortable and conceals fairly well.
    Oh, and it's pretty dang accurate to 15 yards.
    At 25 yards it seems to get a bit more random (paper plate size groupings) but how often is that going to be a requirement in self-defense?
    Cheers,
    Steve
    Actually Steve a plate size grouping isn't at all bad, if your going to shoot someone, putting rounds close to the same hole doesn't accomplish what your trying to do, to stop the guy from returning fire, the more holes you put in him in a random order the better your chances of putting him on the ground and unable to return fire. Hitting the same spot doesn't produce the results you need in a gun fight. Pepper that SOB in as many spots as possible! and OH Boy can I hit a lot of spots with that 380 Ruger and don't have to worry about putting them in the same hole!

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    Quote Originally Posted by seadog View Post
    Actually Steve a plate size grouping isn't at all bad, if your going to shoot someone, putting rounds close to the same hole doesn't accomplish what your trying to do, to stop the guy from returning fire, the more holes you put in him in a random order the better your chances of putting him on the ground and unable to return fire. Hitting the same spot doesn't produce the results you need in a gun fight. Pepper that SOB in as many spots as possible! and OH Boy can I hit a lot of spots with that 380 Ruger and don't have to worry about putting them in the same hole!
    I share my bed with a National Pistol Champion, so groupings matter in our household!
    But there are limitations on shorter barreled carry weapons that she doesn't have with her match-grade 7+ inch barreled toys.

    With my carry weapons, at 5-15 yards, I train for tight groups (2-3") so that when the adrenalin is flowing, my muscle memory and body alignment will keep those rounds honest.
    I need to refresh the tactical skill set though.
    I need to schedule a trip to Colorado and visit an old friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seadog View Post
    Actually Steve a plate size grouping isn't at all bad, if your going to shoot someone, putting rounds close to the same hole doesn't accomplish what your trying to do, to stop the guy from returning fire, the more holes you put in him in a random order the better your chances of putting him on the ground and unable to return fire. Hitting the same spot doesn't produce the results you need in a gun fight. Pepper that SOB in as many spots as possible! and OH Boy can I hit a lot of spots with that 380 Ruger and don't have to worry about putting them in the same hole!

    This is correct. When defensive shooting, small groups only hits flesh that has already destroyed. Shoot for groups about the size of an open hand
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