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    I do not understand the advantages of the remote control opener for the bags. I mean you are right at the bike anyway and it only requires a gentle pull so why is it better to carry a remote control rather than just pull the lever? I'm guessing if it came with a remote control someone would be trying to figure a way to mount it on the bike rather than carrying it in your pocket. Now if your levers are gone like 53driver then yes it is needed.

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    I also wonder why if you are preparing for a failed battery in the remote by packing the tools required to manually open the bags why not just pack an extra battery for the remote? But I often don't understand. t

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2wheelsforme View Post
    I do not understand the advantages of the remote control opener for the bags. I mean you are right at the bike anyway and it only requires a gentle pull so why is it better to carry a remote control rather than just pull the lever? I'm guessing if it came with a remote control someone would be trying to figure a way to mount it on the bike rather than carrying it in your pocket. Now if your levers are gone like 53driver then yes it is needed.
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    I also wonder why if you are preparing for a failed battery in the remote by packing the tools required to manually open the bags why not just pack an extra battery for the remote? But I often don't understand. t
    Our B's while wonderful machines are lacking in a few really basic modern conveniences...The one that irritates me the most, so far, is the "trunk" style locks which is why you would want this mod. It's on my list. I'm not sure how, although I certain there's away, anyone could design a more archaic setup for accessing your saddlebags on the B. I know I'm not alone in leaving my keys hanging from the back of the bike on occasion. Electronic locks and fobs are standard on other bikes and well proven in this day and age. That I either have to carry a spare key, make a cut out, disable the locks or shut the bike down to grab something from the bags quickly is mentally challenged and the key slot is not intuitively located. Killing the battery on your B shouldn't be a regular occurrence and fob battery's last quite awhile. You could take this a step farther and mount a backup switch in the locked cubby for the rare occasion you lose your fob or it's battery is dead. This tech is so proven in the automotive world that many newer cars do not have key locks for the trunk.

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    I guess I'm lucky in that I don't have a problem with the locks and love the way they work. I have the valet key with a small knob always in the keyhole in the unlock position, not noticeable at all and never keys hanging from the lock. That sounds like the biggest gripe you have about this system and I did not like it either until installing the always unlocked key and knob. Just a pull on the lever and I'm in the bag. Can be removed if I wish to lock the bags, seldom needed. The ignition key is either in the slot or in my pocket, not needed anywhere else. Another Valet key with an even smaller knob is always in the right side to open the middle cubby and easily removed to unlock the fuel door, no need to remove the ignition key to access sunglasses or fuel door. Now if you want to go modern we need a fob with a proximity switch and starter button that only works when you are close to the bike. No having to dig in a pocket. You would still need to pull the lever to open the bags. Friends with HDs and those switches seen to have some problems sometimes but the one on my my Pathfinder works great. My remote control garage door opener is much more easy to use now that is mounted hidden on the bike with a momentary push switch mounted in the panel to the left and can even be pressed with my knee to open garage. So if I had a remote to open the bags I would want it mounted (hidden I guess) on the bike to avoid having to carry it in my pocket but don't see how that would be more easy that just pulling the lever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2wheelsforme View Post
    I guess I'm lucky in that I don't have a problem with the locks and love the way they work. I have the valet key with a small knob always in the keyhole in the unlock position, not noticeable at all and never keys hanging from the lock. That sounds like the biggest gripe you have about this system and I did not like it either until installing the always unlocked key and knob. Just a pull on the lever and I'm in the bag. Can be removed if I wish to lock the bags, seldom needed. The ignition key is either in the slot or in my pocket, not needed anywhere else. Another Valet key with an even smaller knob is always in the right side to open the middle cubby and easily removed to unlock the fuel door, no need to remove the ignition key to access sunglasses or fuel door. Now if you want to go modern we need a fob with a proximity switch and starter button that only works when you are close to the bike. No having to dig in a pocket. You would still need to pull the lever to open the bags. Friends with HDs and those switches seen to have some problems sometimes but the one on my my Pathfinder works great. My remote control garage door opener is much more easy to use now that is mounted hidden on the bike with a momentary push switch mounted in the panel to the left and can even be pressed with my knee to open garage. So if I had a remote to open the bags I would want it mounted (hidden I guess) on the bike to avoid having to carry it in my pocket but don't see how that would be more easy that just pulling the lever.
    My Concours has that proximity for the ignition and it works great plus the fob has the removable key that I use for the fuel cap and the bags. The BMW I test road had the full on remote that worked great. My bags have been rifled more then once at work so I would be pulling the valet key setup everyday. Coming up with a system like the BMW's, to me, would seem the best setup. Like I said before it's one of the few things about the B that irritates me and I'll get the remote setup this summer barring any unforeseen issues that arise. That hidden switch for the garage is great idea, the new place will have a gate minder and eventually a remote garage door opener.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2wheelsforme View Post
    I also wonder why if you are preparing for a failed battery in the remote by packing the tools required to manually open the bags why not just pack an extra battery for the remote? But I often don't understand. t
    I don't think the concern here is for a failed battery in the remote, but for a failed battery on the bike... in which case you could push the remote as many times as you want, but there is no juice in the bike battery to power the actuators and open the bags. The tools then become necessary to open the saddlebags... but you still have a dead battery on the bike.

    But you are correct in that carrying a small screwdriver and an extra remote battery would be a much easier solution than the removal of the seat... because the real problem, as I have heard from others, is the nightmare of trying to re-align those factory seat bolts for the re-installation of said seat. Which, if it happened only once, would eliminate any collective time savings for each time you didn't have to simply move the key from the ignition to the saddlebag lock and its return.

    Having said that, it often amazes me how dependent people become on things like remote fobs. You would be surprised at the number of AAA calls we receive from people who "can't get into their vehicle" because their remote fobs don't work... and they have become so numb to this technology that it's actually entertaining to see the look on their face when my drivers ask them for their fob... flip out the key... and STICK IT IN THE DOOR and turn it to open their car. Which of course starts right up once they are inside it. (I run a towing company here on the West Coast - if you hadn't guessed).

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    I bet a lot of people don't know the fob has a hard key inside it to open the door and that the fob works if really close to the starter push button.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMartin View Post
    I don't think the concern here is for a failed battery in the remote, but for a failed battery on the bike... in which case you could push the remote as many times as you want, but there is no juice in the bike battery to power the actuators and open the bags. The tools then become necessary to open the saddlebags... but you still have a dead battery on the bike.

    But you are correct in that carrying a small screwdriver and an extra remote battery would be a much easier solution than the removal of the seat... because the real problem, as I have heard from others, is the nightmare of trying to re-align those factory seat bolts for the re-installation of said seat. Which, if it happened only once, would eliminate any collective time savings for each time you didn't have to simply move the key from the ignition to the saddlebag lock and its return.

    Having said that, it often amazes me how dependent people become on things like remote fobs. You would be surprised at the number of AAA calls we receive from people who "can't get into their vehicle" because their remote fobs don't work... and they have become so numb to this technology that it's actually entertaining to see the look on their face when my drivers ask them for their fob... flip out the key... and STICK IT IN THE DOOR and turn it to open their car. Which of course starts right up once they are inside it. (I run a towing company here on the West Coast - if you hadn't guessed).

    This is probably worth mentioning as well (unrelated but related)... my wife's battery died in her Mustang's Key Fob. Upon taking the Key Fob apart. I discovered that there was a hidden key installed inside of the Key Fob. We had NO IDEA it was there....


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    Post number 13:
    I bet a lot of people don't know the fob has a hard key inside it to open the door and that the fob works if really close to the starter push button.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2wheelsforme View Post
    Post number 13:
    I bet a lot of people don't know the fob has a hard key inside it to open the door and that the fob works if really close to the starter push button.
    Ah, I saw that you posted that already, well; repetition may be key here (no pun intended)


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