I simply loved these pipes but they rusted so badly I had to contact Cobra and they eventually replaced one of them and would not replace the other that had the most rust because it had a minor scrape on it. They cleaned that one up for me and returned them to me. I eventually sold the returned pipes and went with the TBR pipes that sound just as well. LOL I did love the look of the COBRAS but hatted the amount of rust after one season.