While I don't disagree, there are quite a few people like myself who are contemplating a v-twin tourer. I guess the heat part makes for a lot of regret. I don't like riding any motorcycle in traffic. That's not why you buy one. I go out on weekends and take the wife for rides out in the country. I don't even like riding to work because of all the dipsh*&ts driving like maniacs to get to work. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate my F6B, so it will have to be very impressive for me to trade again and lose again. I'm not a nutswinger brand freak, so if I end up with a Ultra Classic, I won't be wearing all the HD gear. My wife just wants to be a HD tshirt queen though....... From what I see when I surf dealer websites, Indians aren't moving either. They're offering a $1500 trade bump and $1000 in gear. It's a buyers market right now.