Hornblower makes a good point that I hadn't really thought about. I'm a member of other forums that do degenerate into bitch sessions quite often. I'm on a Vmax forum that is quite positive but tends to be highly technical. The international KTM forum has much pissing and moaning that is generally directed at the crappy dealers mainly across the pond. The VW Eos forum is rife with technically challenging problems due to the overly complex nature of the cars retracting hardtop. When I want to relax with my cup of coffee I always join all you good folks right here!