I came off a Victory Vision Tour with the lower 8-ball seat after a 3 year stint..The Vision is, in my judgment, a better touring bike than a Goldwing or BMW1600...I really loved the ride and ease of handling on the road. It had plenty of power and was head and shoulders above any HD touring bike in my opinion..No longer take trips of any length and wanted something a little lighter and smoother and the F6B fit the bill...Had a Valkyrie for 6 years and really enjoyed the smoothness and power of the flat six motor. I am totally satisfied with the F6B and absolutely love the thing!!..Test rode the Indians and other Victory's at the last demo rides a few weeks ago and was glad to get back on my 6 and ride home......BTW, if you want a lower seat Mustang is the answer for most...Mine is on the way soon....