Contemplating F6B Purchase -- Advice Needed!

[Steve 0080]

I agree with unsub...or there are better deals on a 2013 at a closer dealer...look some more then decide...no rush...

[Sorcerer]

You could ask your dealer to through in the extended warranty on the used / new F6B.

[VP8]

Rick, the bike you purchase depends on what type of bike riding you do. i.e. if you plan to do touring, motorcycle trips, store items on your bike, etc...then get the F6B. If you just want a bar hopper or you go on small rides that don't involve carrying anything, then get the Valkyrie. Personally, the current Valkyries will be pretty tough to resale.

As for which F6B you should purchase...it's cheaper to just go with a Deluxe (heated grips, center stand, passenger back rest, and self canceling turn signals). If I was looking for a red F6B, I would get the used Deluxe that just got traded in. With that, your dealer is over charging you for it...like you said, for less than $1k more, you get the full warranty, reduced financing rate and it's new. Now, Honda has an incentive right now for the new 2013 F6B and Deluxe...they are offering $2,500 in Honda Bonus Bucks. So you should find out if that $15K price includes that.

As for the used 2013 Deluxe, the dealer did not pay more than $11,750 for it. They made a profit off the original sale, just obtained this trade in so they could rid a new bike, and I'm sure all they did to the bike was preform the required oil change. Yes, the tires are used, but you should be able to add another 7,000 miles to it. I'd say, since you seem interested in the used bike since it's already configured how you like and it's clean...go for the used one...but don't offer more than $12K for it. The dealer will say there are accessories on it, so you don't have to add them....well, dealers don't pay any extra money for the accessories. He's had the new 2013's sitting in his showroom for two years, I doubt he wants to loose an interested buyer to rid the used 2013 Deluxe. I say why spend $3K more plus the cost of accessories when all you are saving is the cost of the warranty and the 7K miles. Honda does offer extended warranty plans you can purchase.

[Riknchar]

Rick, the bike you purchase depends on what type of bike riding you do. i.e. if you plan to do touring, motorcycle trips, store items on your bike, etc...then get the F6B. If you just want a bar hopper or you go on small rides that don't involve carrying anything, then get the Valkyrie. Personally, the current Valkyries will be pretty tough to resale.

As for which F6B you should purchase...it's cheaper to just go with a Deluxe (heated grips, center stand, passenger back rest, and self canceling turn signals). If I was looking for a red F6B, I would get the used Deluxe that just got traded in. With that, your dealer is over charging you for it...like you said, for less than $1k more, you get the full warranty, reduced financing rate and it's new. Now, Honda has an incentive right now for the new 2013 F6B and Deluxe...they are offering $2,500 in Honda Bonus Bucks. So you should find out if that $15K price includes that.

As for the used 2013 Deluxe, the dealer did not pay more than $11,750 for it. They made a profit off the original sale, just obtained this trade in so they could rid a new bike, and I'm sure all they did to the bike was preform the required oil change. Yes, the tires are used, but you should be able to add another 7,000 miles to it. I'd say, since you seem interested in the used bike since it's already configured how you like and it's clean...go for the used one...but don't offer more than $12K for it. The dealer will say there are accessories on it, so you don't have to add them....well, dealers don't pay any extra money for the accessories. He's had the new 2013's sitting in his showroom for two years, I doubt he wants to loose an interested buyer to rid the used 2013 Deluxe. I say why spend $3K more plus the cost of accessories when all you are saving is the cost of the warranty and the 7K miles. Honda does offer extended warranty plans you can purchase.

Great info! I really appreciate your insight! I really have no fear of buying the used F6B I looked at. It was spotless from top to bottom (even underneath), and 7K miles for the 1800 engine is nothing. I would really prefer the Deluxe, since I need the passenger seat anyway, and would want a center stand. The self-canceling turn signals are also nice (had those on my last Wing), but aren't a make-or-break deal. Same with the heated grips... I've never had them, so I don't miss them much, and I'm a pretty "fair weather" rider anyway.

I'll probably call tomorrow to negotiate the best price possible on the used one... I'd LOVE to get it for $12K, but I don't know if the dealer will be willing. I'm guessing more like $13K, but even that would save me around $3K from buying the new non-Deluxe F6B and outfitting it the way I'd want. I can always buy the extended warranty for another $500-600 (or ask that the dealer throw it in with the deal, which probably costs them way less than that).

Again, thanks for your advice! Rick

[VP8]

I too love the center stand Rick...it's a lot easier to check the air and the condition of the tires and/or plug a rear tire...which I had to do recently.

Rick, check online for used F6Bs...and check the classified section of this forum...this will give you a good idea on a price. But really, I would offer the dealer $12K...they will counter and whine that they need to make some money off it...even though it just arrived. If they want to play rough...then leave them your phone number and walk away for a week. See what they do. If they offer you something more reasonable...like $12,250...then ask them to throw in a one year extended warranty...then it'll be a deal.

And you're right...Jap bikes are bullet proof...and the Goldwings have proven themselves...40 years. So yeah...I wouldn't worry too much about getting an extended warranty unless you just want that peace of mind.

Good luck, and let us know what happens.

[Riknchar]

I too love the center stand Rick...it's a lot easier to check the air and the condition of the tires and/or plug a rear tire...which I had to do recently.

Rick, check online for used F6Bs...and check the classified section of this forum...this will give you a good idea on a price. But really, I would offer the dealer $12K...they will counter and whine that they need to make some money off it...even though it just arrived. If they want to play rough...then leave them your phone number and walk away for a week. See what they do. If they offer you something more reasonable...like $12,250...then ask them to throw in a one year extended warranty...then it'll be a deal.

And you're right...Jap bikes are bullet proof...and the Goldwings have proven themselves...40 years. So yeah...I wouldn't worry too much about getting an extended warranty unless you just want that peace of mind.

Good luck, and let us know what happens.

Thanks VP8! Not sure how they will react to an offer of $12K, but I don't have much to lose since there are so many new ones left over (and it's still below 20 degrees here in Omaha NE, so I won't be riding anytime soon anyway).

I appreciate so many forum members chiming in with advice! I'll definitely keep you posted on how I come out... One way or another, I'll be driving a sweet F6B this Spring! Rick

[mike2000t]

Even if you offer the $12k and they dont bite, you can always go up, go new, or go elsewhere.

[bigbird]

Here's what I just posted in your same question in another thread.

"Making only $295 gross on a bike would not keep a dealer in business for long.
If Honda motorcycle sales are similar to automobile sales, the dealer has about a 3%-4% holdback (also called floor plan) that is there to help the dealer finance the bike on the sales floor until it is sold.
So if dealer cost is $18500, there is another $740 to the Dealer from Honda. In reality, the dealer's gross profit would be $295 + $740 for just over $1000 gross profit. Is that fair for both parties?
I think so, especially for a bike that isn't in stock and hasn't sat on the sales floor for months eating into the floor plan.

BTW, is it Dillon Bros who wouldn't discount?
If so, that's strange, as their online parts discounts are among the best in the US.
I have bought lots of parts and accessories from Dillon over the years."

[1BADF6B]

Rick, the bike you purchase depends on what type of bike riding you do. i.e. if you plan to do touring, motorcycle trips, store items on your bike, etc...then get the F6B. If you just want a bar hopper or you go on small rides that don't involve carrying anything, then get the Valkyrie. Personally, the current Valkyries will be pretty tough to resale.

As for which F6B you should purchase...it's cheaper to just go with a Deluxe (heated grips, center stand, passenger back rest, and self canceling turn signals). If I was looking for a red F6B, I would get the used Deluxe that just got traded in. With that, your dealer is over charging you for it...like you said, for less than $1k more, you get the full warranty, reduced financing rate and it's new. Now, Honda has an incentive right now for the new 2013 F6B and Deluxe...they are offering $2,500 in Honda Bonus Bucks. So you should find out if that $15K price includes that.

As for the used 2013 Deluxe, the dealer did not pay more than $11,750 for it. They made a profit off the original sale, just obtained this trade in so they could rid a new bike, and I'm sure all they did to the bike was preform the required oil change. Yes, the tires are used, but you should be able to add another 7,000 miles to it. I'd say, since you seem interested in the used bike since it's already configured how you like and it's clean...go for the used one...but don't offer more than $12K for it. The dealer will say there are accessories on it, so you don't have to add them....well, dealers don't pay any extra money for the accessories. He's had the new 2013's sitting in his showroom for two years, I doubt he wants to loose an interested buyer to rid the used 2013 Deluxe. I say why spend $3K more plus the cost of accessories when all you are saving is the cost of the warranty and the 7K miles. Honda does offer extended warranty plans you can purchase.

I agree with VP.