The "Scrape Club"

[RodsF6]

He was NEVER the fastest ........ But on a Wing or any other big touring bike I would have to say YES !



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[InvictusF6B]

Hi guys, I cut my teeth on sport bikes years ago and all of the training that I acquired along the way has come with me to the F6B. Ive attended Keith Codes super street bike school, Lee Parks's Total Control courses as well as a handful of others through the years. with that said, Im no Valentino Rossi but I can pilot a motorcycle through any turn at a respectable speed while maintaining the ability to react to changes in road conditions and the occasional idiot driving left of center. I would argue that your suspension is practically useless when you're scraping hard parts. An unloaded suspension can lead to low and highsides or even stand the bike up in a turn and lead to you running out of road and in to disaster. Although sparks look cool, they are likely signs that your body position needs work. what I mean is the more of you that is on the inside of the turn, the less the bike has to lean into the turn. This "body off" technique gains you more ground clearance and more importantly suspension travel. You certainly won't master this from reading my ramblings but I highly recommend attending a riding course (Its not just for the sport bike guys ya know) it WILL improve your riding. just my two cents.Attachment 26028

[Jimmytee]

Hi guys, I cut my teeth on sport bikes years ago and all of the training that I acquired along the way has come with me to the F6B. Ive attended Keith Codes super street bike school, Lee Parks's Total Control courses as well as a handful of others through the years. with that said, Im no Valentino Rossi but I can pilot a motorcycle through any turn at a respectable speed while maintaining the ability to react to changes in road conditions and the occasional idiot driving left of center. I would argue that your suspension is practically useless when you're scraping hard parts. An unloaded suspension can lead to low and highsides or even stand the bike up in a turn and lead to you running out of road and in to disaster. Although sparks look cool, they are likely signs that your body position needs work. what I mean is the more of you that is on the inside of the turn, the less the bike has to lean into the turn. This "body off" technique gains you more ground clearance and more importantly suspension travel. You certainly won't master this from reading my ramblings but I highly recommend attending a riding course (Its not just for the sport bike guys ya know) it WILL improve your riding. just my two cents.Attachment 26028

I would love to have to go through one of Keith Codes classes.

I've at least watched the Twist of the Wrist videos.

I do practice the fundamentals every time I ride. Been doing so for years.

I understand what you are saying and agree to a point. However, as stated before, these bikes run out of cornering clearance pretty quickly . Yes all the factors that go into piloting a motorcycle properly though corners help in doing so safer and will improve your speed through corners before "scraping". But you are going to scrape at some point if your speed is fast enough. I don't care who you are or how much "English " you throw at the bike. You could argue that at that point you are going too fast. Well that might be more of an effective argument. I'll leave that to one's personal discretion. I always tell people "Ride Your Own Ride"

[InvictusF6B]

I would love to have to go through one of Keith Codes classes.

I've at least watched the Twist of the Wrist videos.

I do practice the fundamentals every time I ride. Been doing so for years.

I understand what you are saying and agree to a point. However, as stated before, these bikes run out of cornering clearance pretty quickly . Yes all the factors that go into piloting a motorcycle properly though corners help in doing so safer and will improve your speed through corners before "scraping". But you are going to scrape at some point if your speed is fast enough. I don't care who you are or how much "English " you throw at the bike. You could argue that at that point you are going too fast. Well that might be more of an effective argument. I'll leave that to one's personal discretion. I always tell people "Ride Your Own Ride"

Very well Jimmytee, I think it goes without saying that there is a speed at which the B will inevitably run out of clearance, nonetheless I agree. I've found that most riders can't out ride the capabilities of their machines (myself included). Sometimes we just cant get out of our own way I suppose but you are clearly the exception and I would jump at the opportunity to learn from you . Have fun be safe and ride your ride, Im sure Kuryakyn wont mind

[Jimmytee]

Very well Jimmytee, I think it goes without saying that there is a speed at which the B will inevitably run out of clearance, nonetheless I agree. I've found that most riders can't out ride the capabilities of their machines (myself included). Sometimes we just cant get out of our own way I suppose but you are clearly the exception and I would jump at the opportunity to learn from you . Have fun be safe and ride your ride, Im sure Kuryakyn wont mind

There is no need to get snarky.

I also didn't claim to be the " be all there is" rider with no room for improvement. I think I was clear that I would love to be able to do one of the Keith Code's schools and there was no sarcasm meant in that.

In contrary , you made it quite clear your "qualifications" to offer your opinion. To which I didn't respond with the sarcasm you did. But that's ok.

That being said, I also told you I agreed with much of what you stated. So I am a bit confused by the attitude in your response.

I just happen to disagree with your inference that if one is scraping, they aren't doing something right.

I'm sorry, but everyone knows one of these bike's limitations is cornering clearance and ALL I did was point that out.

My tires tell the story, worn bald to the edges with tread in the center. It's not bragging, just the truth. I'm not exceptional. I just practice and enjoy spirited riding. Hope we can share some wind some day. I would love to make the rally in Colorado next year but don't know if it's possible yet.

[F6Bster]

... I would love to make the rally in Colorado next year but don't know if it's possible yet.

And most of us would sure like to see you out in Colorado for the rally, or if you can’t make it, then sometime in the future.

Back to this thread. In my younger years the “chicken strips” pretty much did not exist on my tires. But now my riding is much less spirited. Now when I ride many of the great roads in Colorado I notice that I see much more scenery that I didn’t even know existed. You really see much more at a more leisurely pace. Glad I’ve been able to do both.

Different days...Different times...Different riding!

[grendl]

And most of us would sure like to see you out in Colorado for the rally, or if you can’t make it, then sometime in the future.

Back to this thread. In my younger years the “chicken strips” pretty much did not exist on my tires. But now my riding is much less spirited. Now when I ride many of the great roads in Colorado I notice that I see much more scenery that I didn’t even know existed. You really see much more at a more leisurely pace. Glad I’ve been able to do both.

Different days...Different times...Different riding!

+1 on this one. I have realized that I am not as fast(reflexes) eye are no longer what they were,so I accommodate by slowing down a bit. Still happy that I can ride and remember when but dont often tell how things used to be.To the 'youngsters' out there they are just 'ol man stories' Many great memories though. ..and riding around Colorado there is much beauty to see that is missed with the tunnel vision of speed.
I've had my fun.
ENJOY !!!

[lake_carl]

I have scraped pegs few times, sometimes going harder than I thought and couple when going faster in poorly planned corner every time been delighted that this bike handles adjustments very forgiving easy and certainly will do more than I feel like riding it