New Tesla Roadster- 0-60 MPH- 1.9 seconds. 620 mile range.

[Verismo]

As long as they continue to force taxpayers to foot the bill for both development and sales incentives, they will stay in business.

I would like to see how long they would be in business if they had to do it on their own, like most businesses.

I'd personally like to see more people get behind and support the technology which has the potential of being more sustainable AND increasing performance.

Jason

[Heatnbeat]

I'm not sure I'd consider the Tesla's technology to be more sustainable considering the energy to power the vehicles comes from the same place as our current vehicles. Unless we start building nukes they are still powered by petrochemicals.

[Verismo]

I'm not sure I'd consider the Tesla's technology to be more sustainable considering the energy to power the vehicles comes from the same place as our current vehicles. Unless we start building nukes they are still powered by petrochemicals.

Musk already announced that Supercharger stations will be converted to solar so they will be off grid. So that narrative isn't going to work much longer.

Jason

[motozeke]

I'm not sure I'd consider the Tesla's technology to be more sustainable considering the energy to power the vehicles comes from the same place as our current vehicles. Unless we start building nukes they are still powered by petrochemicals.

No, not actually. https://medium.com/@kkchristy/no-evs...l-b050d4f87136

[Heatnbeat]

No, not coal, but where does our electricity come from?
And do you think the people who want to Save the world by going to elrvtric cars will look fondly on building more powerplants? How about building the electrical trsnsmisdion lines to distribute it? The greenies will NEVER allow that
All of the energy supplied by gasoline and diesel fuel will have to come from generating stations.
Unless of course each EV comes with a unicorn that can convert it's farts to electricity.

[ths61]

Unless of course each EV comes with a unicorn that can convert it's farts to electricity.

Dat be a Work In Progress (WIP). For the cow's sake, I hope they don't smoke.

[2wheelsforme]

For Fun:

I personally think Ford executives are smoking to much funny stuff....Some of the top brass in the buggy industry are suggesting that they will be out of business by 1919 as they are burning through way to much cash, internal combustion technology is the same for the entire auto industry and the competition will get worse for them...They have no dealer network and a lot of negatives at this point..Just because their stock is high priced does not guarantee success...There cars are nice, but the average person cannot afford one in most cases. I guess we wait and see what the future brings, but for now, me and mine will stick with a good old horse and buggy...My Tennessee Walker is fast enough to get me trouble!!....Ride safe

[Heatnbeat]

I drive a box truck 2 days a week (25,900 gvw) so I decided I'd try to get an idea about charging it if it was an EV. I drove around 5 hours and burned about 13 gal of diesel. As near as I can figure using a Current Tesla "Supercharger" it would take around 4.5 hr to charge . If they are gonna run class 8 trucks they will have to do a bit better than that.

[ths61]

I'd personally like to see more people get behind and support the technology which has the potential of being more sustainable AND increasing performance.

Jason

But should they be forced to do so against their will ? That is the question.

BHO's list of faltering or bankrupt taxpayer funded green-energy companies:

Evergreen Solar ($25 million)*
SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
Solyndra ($535 million)*
Beacon Power ($43 million)*
Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)
SunPower ($1.2 billion)
First Solar ($1.46 billion)
Babcock and Brown ($178 million)
EnerDel’s subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
Amonix ($5.9 million)
Fisker Automotive ($529 million)
Abound Solar ($400 million)*
A123 Systems ($279 million)*
Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($700,981)*
Johnson Controls ($299 million)
Schneider Electric ($86 million)
Brightsource ($1.6 billion)
ECOtality ($126.2 million)
Raser Technologies ($33 million)*
Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*
Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*
Olsen’s Crop Service and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*
Range Fuels ($80 million)*
Thompson River Power ($6.5 million)*
Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*
Azure Dynamics ($5.4 million)*
GreenVolts ($500,000)
Vestas ($50 million)
LG Chem’s subsidiary Compact Power ($151 million)
Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*
Navistar ($39 million)
Satcon ($3 million)*
Konarka Technologies Inc. ($20 million)*
Mascoma Corp. ($100 million)

[jm21ddd15]

But should they be forced to do so against their will ? That is the question.

BHO's list of faltering or bankrupt taxpayer funded green-energy companies:

Evergreen Solar ($25 million)*
SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
Solyndra ($535 million)*
Beacon Power ($43 million)*
Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)
SunPower ($1.2 billion)
First Solar ($1.46 billion)
Babcock and Brown ($178 million)
EnerDel’s subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
Amonix ($5.9 million)
Fisker Automotive ($529 million)
Abound Solar ($400 million)*
A123 Systems ($279 million)*
Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($700,981)*
Johnson Controls ($299 million)
Schneider Electric ($86 million)
Brightsource ($1.6 billion)
ECOtality ($126.2 million)
Raser Technologies ($33 million)*
Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*
Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*
Olsen’s Crop Service and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*
Range Fuels ($80 million)*
Thompson River Power ($6.5 million)*
Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*
Azure Dynamics ($5.4 million)*
GreenVolts ($500,000)
Vestas ($50 million)
LG Chem’s subsidiary Compact Power ($151 million)
Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*
Navistar ($39 million)
Satcon ($3 million)*
Konarka Technologies Inc. ($20 million)*
Mascoma Corp. ($100 million)

Yup! More government spending our taxes down the tube. Here in the mid-west, we have many "corn ethanol" plants, for the gas that rots engine components. These plants would mostly all be bankrupt, without government subsities. And to top that off, they use a gallon of fresh water in the manufacturing process, for each gallon of ethanol. What a waste.