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    Yes you are right, those communists were horrible there, beheading, mutilations, murder. Glad the US stepped in to stop that sickness. But diplomats thought they knew how to fight a war and look what happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stroguy View Post
    Yes you are right, those communists were horrible there, beheading, mutilations, murder. Glad the US stepped in to stop that sickness. But diplomats thought they knew how to fight a war and look what happened.
    Why am I so incensed by all this? Relatives I never knew because of WWII, Nam? My family lost no one in Korea, though my dad built bridges there. Why can I not let this pass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroguy View Post
    Yes you are right, those communists were horrible there, beheading, mutilations, murder. Glad the US stepped in to stop that sickness. But diplomats thought they knew how to fight a war and look what happened.
    About 15 tears ago ( or so ) , Atlantic City was hosting Convention of American Red Cross Nurses . I was in charge of driving one of the leading Nurse , who served in Vietnam about 3 years . We were talking about misery of war and wasted human life . Not being sure about numbers of casualties , I asked her :
    - Could you refresh my memory and provide the toll of killed and wounded Americans ? There were 58,000 of deaths and 75,000 disabled , or vice versa ?
    After prolonged silence , she answered : YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH ? .... NOBODY CAME BACK ALIVE !!!!!

    I'm pretty sure , you will never understand , what kind of message was delivered to my contemplations .
    Ironically , on the one of the following intersections , miserably looking man , who was begging for change , had sign posted on the piece of board , which stated : "Homeless Viet Vet - please help" . And then I realized , I'm in USA .

    Should I explain you more ? Should I scream to heavens , shouting : ANY WAR IS A HELL AND ANY WAR IS STUPID ?
    Or maybe it will make you lough , because you "think better" , who is classified to be alive , or to be dead !!!

    Shame on you , Warmongers ! Shame on your twisted mentality , fueled by propaganda of "superiority" over another human bean . Nobody gave you any rights to judge others , except giving advices , claiming that Mc Donald garbage and cheap bear is best for all world consumption .

    So , whoever was attempting to hurt senses of my REAL PATRIOTISM , is fool and has been presenting false understandings of existence . I'll wave the flag with related emotions , until some jerk might try to convince me , that aggressive , unjust wars and dreams of "Full Spectrum Dominance " is the only way of survival .

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    Do you believe you're the only one in this thread who knows that war is hell?

    Do you believe everybody here are war mongers and prefer battle over diplomacy?

    Do you believe you have a monopoly on the true horrors of death and destruction?


    Rest assured that at the core of everybody's heart is a desire to NOT go to war... regardless of the drivel that some websites may write

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    Quote Originally Posted by srt8-in-largo View Post
    Do you believe you're the only one in this thread who knows that war is hell?

    Do you believe everybody here are war mongers and prefer battle over diplomacy?

    Do you believe you have a monopoly on the true horrors of death and destruction?


    Rest assured that at the core of everybody's heart is a desire to NOT go to war... regardless of the drivel that some websites may write
    George - I really enjoy your intelligence , your posted sentences , which are kind , persuasive and written in pure , eloquent English . I also learn from you and for benefits of my technical skills too. I might never reach your level , but trying is the best , what I can do . The answer to your questions is difficult , because not many responders participate in our debate . Looks , like after reading some ranted and vulgar posts , they are afraid to be categorized and judged by few "self proclaimed leaders of debate" , who destroying the beauty of differently provided forms of thinking. If you really want to know , who believe , or who doesn't of "whatever" it might be , let's open new thread , where one can anonymously vote for multiple issues , related to "peace and war" . Similarly to "what ages" , or "types of chosen exhaust systems" , etc. It will be fair and extremely educational . We all are different with various mind set up , but we need to accept each other , no matter what the presentations of our world's view is . I'll be the first , who will vote for unconditional peace and tolerance between people ( incl. family members ), countries , races , faith and believes . I did the same for provocative , but very smart question posted by BigBird . You can recall the thunderstorms and fire , which still didn't change my "awareness" to the evident and cultural threats of many , who still mandate taking "patriotic responsibilities" with guns , which presumedly is giving them some assurance of "safety" . So , let's ask some of our Moderators , or PoopScooper to set suitable composition of the questions from above .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limoles View Post
    .... but trying is the best , what I can do....
    That's all I can ask for.

    Quote Originally Posted by Limoles View Post
    ...who still mandate taking "patriotic responsibilities" with guns , which presumedly is giving them some assurance of "safety"...
    I find it odd that one as masterful a debater as you claim to be, failed to even acknowledge my real life experiences, providing my family with safety, using a weapon.
    When I was on the debate team, not acknowledging was judged as "agreeing."

    Les - you never responded to any of my questions, or requests for the tangible manifestations of your ideologies, only picking and choosing questions from others.
    Until you get "real", I cannot take your opinions, however well meaning they may be, seriously.
    I've been in war.
    No one wins.
    Fighting evil is a tough, dirty job.
    I have successfully defended my family, and shall continue to do so, with whatever means I am afforded and trained.
    Academia knows not of dirty hands.

    Let's get real here: your company makes a profit margin based on the financial successes of the oil companies to deliver cheaper fuel to America than the rest of the world.
    What would $10/gallon gasoline do to your limo business?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 53driver View Post
    That's all I can ask for.


    I find it odd that one as masterful a debater as you claim to be, failed to even acknowledge my real life experiences, providing my family with safety, using a weapon.
    When I was on the debate team, not acknowledging was judged as "agreeing."

    Les - you never responded to any of my questions, or requests for the tangible manifestations of your ideologies, only picking and choosing questions from others.
    Until you get "real", I cannot take your opinions, however well meaning they may be, seriously.
    I've been in war.
    No one wins.
    Fighting evil is a tough, dirty job.
    I have successfully defended my family, and shall continue to do so, with whatever means I am afforded and trained.
    Academia knows not of dirty hands.

    Let's get real here: your company makes a profit margin based on the financial successes of the oil companies to deliver cheaper fuel to America than the rest of the world.
    What would $10/gallon gasoline do to your limo business?

    I didn't - sorry , but since your questions were not so clear to me - I skipped the answers .

    Gas - I was adjusting my prices of the service , when fuel was $.99 and reached up to $4,70
    Now is $2,45 and incoming summer time will increase the numbers . Consumer always paying
    the bill , we are only providing it . But honestly , I think , now we have to many reserves and oil
    tankers are plentiful on all Oceans , waiting for another speculative directives from Wall Street ,
    so they sneefing political situations around the world and play with all of us on their violins .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limoles View Post
    I didn't - sorry , but since your questions were not so clear to me - I skipped the answers .
    How very convenient....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limoles View Post
    About 15 tears ago ( or so ) , Atlantic City was hosting Convention of American Red Cross Nurses . I was in charge of driving one of the leading Nurse , who served in Vietnam about 3 years . We were talking about misery of war and wasted human life . Not being sure about numbers of casualties , I asked her :
    - Could you refresh my memory and provide the toll of killed and wounded Americans ? There were 58,000 of deaths and 75,000 disabled , or vice versa ?
    After prolonged silence , she answered : YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH ? .... NOBODY CAME BACK ALIVE !!!!!

    I'm pretty sure , you will never understand , what kind of message was delivered to my contemplations .
    Ironically , on the one of the following intersections , miserably looking man , who was begging for change , had sign posted on the piece of board , which stated : "Homeless Viet Vet - please help" . And then I realized , I'm in USA .

    Should I explain you more ? Should I scream to heavens , shouting : ANY WAR IS A HELL AND ANY WAR IS STUPID ?
    Or maybe it will make you lough , because you "think better" , who is classified to be alive , or to be dead !!!

    Shame on you , Warmongers ! Shame on your twisted mentality , fueled by propaganda of "superiority" over another human bean . Nobody gave you any rights to judge others , except giving advices , claiming that Mc Donald garbage and cheap bear is best for all world consumption .

    So , whoever was attempting to hurt senses of my REAL PATRIOTISM , is fool and has been presenting false understandings of existence . I'll wave the flag with related emotions , until some jerk might try to convince me , that aggressive , unjust wars and dreams of "Full Spectrum Dominance " is the only way of survival .
    Serbia, Latvia, Tunisia and Palestine benevolent involvement in Nepal. Links please. No one is preaching war. Only the long arm of US strength reaching out to help. Thank your lucky stars you got off the boat here and achieved your dream. Right here in the USA. Thanks might be a better response.

    Links please.

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