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    Quote Originally Posted by 98valk View Post
    I didn't have a graph of the manual transmission. The first five gears are the same as our bikes. The sixth gear is an extra full step more, lowering the RPM's about 20%. If someone does not want to use the 6th gear, they don't have too.

    I too think the same thing could have been done with 5 speeds and just spreading them out. But, there are others who will disagree.

    The DCT put an extra gear in the lower speeds. I think it is more than needed. But, since it is automatic, it won't be even noticed most of the time.
    If the manual transmission's 6 gear is a true overdrive, that makes sense. If it is the same as in the chart, it makes no sense.

    Where did you see the first 5 gears are the same as the F6B for the 2018's manual transmission ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ths61 View Post
    If the manual transmission's 6 gear is a true overdrive, that makes sense. If it is the same as in the chart, it makes no sense.

    Where did you see the first 5 gears are the same as the F6B for the 2018's manual transmission ?
    Some guys on another site were comparing gear ratios (primary, engine side final and wheel side final). Here is some of it. Makes sense to me ...

    Using the specs listed here. It looks like 60 mph should be around 1943 rpm in 6th gear. 5th gear currently 2470?


    https://www.mcnews.com.au/2018-honda-gold-wing/6/

    6th gear .522 Primary 1.795 Engine Side Final .972 Wheel side final 2.615
    Wheel Diameter 24.7


    RPM= (Final Ratio*MPH*336)/Tire Diameter
    (.522*1.795*.972*2.615)=2.381
    (2.381* 60*336)/24.7 = 1943.35 ish
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    Quote Originally Posted by 98valk View Post
    Some guys on another site were comparing gear ratios (primary, engine side final and wheel side final). Here is some of it. Makes sense to me ...

    Using the specs listed here. It looks like 60 mph should be around 1943 rpm in 6th gear. 5th gear currently 2470?


    https://www.mcnews.com.au/2018-honda-gold-wing/6/

    6th gear .522 Primary 1.795 Engine Side Final .972 Wheel side final 2.615
    Wheel Diameter 24.7


    RPM= (Final Ratio*MPH*336)/Tire Diameter
    (.522*1.795*.972*2.615)=2.381
    (2.381* 60*336)/24.7 = 1943.35 ish
    Thanks for the link. Looks like the Manual 4th, 5th and 6th is the same as the DCT 5th, 6th and 7th.

    (DCT) 1st: 2.167 2nd: 1.696 3rd: 1.304 4th: 1.038 5th: 0.821 6th: 0.667 7th: 0.522 Rev: 1.190

    (MT) 1st: 2.200 2nd: 1.417 3rd: 1.036 4th: 0.821 5th: 0.667 6th: 0.522

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    Quote Originally Posted by ths61 View Post
    Thanks for the link. Looks like the manual 6th is the same as the DCT 7th and the manual 5th is the same as the DCT 6th.

    (DCT) 1st: 2.167 2nd: 1.696 3rd: 1.304 4th: 1.038 5th: 0.821 6th: 0.667 7th: 0.522 Rev: 1.190

    (MT) 1st: 2.200 2nd: 1.417 3rd: 1.036 4th: 0.821 5th: 0.667 6th: 0.522
    Yep, looks good! Honda really did try and give us what we wanted.

    Maybe the 6th manual gear could be perceived as "optional" (for those who didn't want it).
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