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    Quote Originally Posted by thumper 549 View Post
    The biggest problem with ANY Vtwin as of right now is-
    Will the company be here tomorrow?
    Even HD is going to be suffering financial hardship.
    Who is going to buy these archaic ancient romantic things?
    Thats the question to ponder.
    The old V twin lovers are retiring from the road.
    Hipsters, dipsters, the live at home crowd until one is over 40 is not going to subscribe to the luxury.
    In fact, even New car sales are suffering.

    Not as much as will the company be here tomorrow, but will the company kill the line up? Like they (Polaris) did to Victory?

    I'm waiting for Polaris to knife their Slingshot product in the back.


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    Holy Crap !!!

    37 thousand dollars ?? Are you kidding me?




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    I'm concerned about longevity too, but willing to chance it. It took me a long time to finally get the slow down and enjoy the ride mentality. Maybe someday, the millenials will too.

    Yeah, it's their version of a cvo. Extra speakers, special paint, accessory floorboards, & a gauge cluster on the tank. It is pretty in person, just not 37k pretty to me!



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    E........$1600
    L........$1600
    I........$1600
    T.......$1600
    E.......$1600
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    $8000 MORE

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    Indian & Victory

    I've never owned either.
    I don't know anyone on the "inside."
    VStarRider's "30,000 Foot View" sounds VERY plausible.

    I concur with the "Bozo" comment - that made me chuckle audibly.
    I thought the first one I saw was the product of Arlen Ness and Picasso getting high and designing a motorcycle....
    Polaris, by law, MUST support the Victory line for 10 years with parts and service.
    Now, how well they actually do that is apparently another story.

    Yes, the HD CVO line and the Indian "top bike" are over $40k. There IS a market for those in some quantity as I know the CVOs are moving off the floor here in PCola.

    There's a lot of "disposable income" out there - next time you are in an airport magazine store, peruse a copy of The Robb Report. It's a gorgeous magazine catering to people who buy $1.2m watches, $1m cars, boats and $gagillion private jets. Yes, there is LOTS of money out there that I know I'll never see. And I'm fine with that.

    Is it necessarily the market to which THIS audience caters? Not really.
    Most of us are a bit more practical and while we recognize motorcycling as a hobby/toy/game - we do like the power and styling of the F6B.
    And the bang for the buck ratio can't be beat.

    I wish well for American companies.
    I wish well for the global economy.
    I wish all y'all a safe ride today.
    Cheers,
    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by 53driver View Post
    I've never owned either.
    I don't know anyone on the "inside."
    VStarRider's "30,000 Foot View" sounds VERY plausible.

    I concur with the "Bozo" comment - that made me chuckle audibly.
    I thought the first one I saw was the product of Arlen Ness and Picasso getting high and designing a motorcycle....
    Polaris, by law, MUST support the Victory line for 10 years with parts and service.
    Now, how well they actually do that is apparently another story.

    Yes, the HD CVO line and the Indian "top bike" are over $40k. There IS a market for those in some quantity as I know the CVOs are moving off the floor here in PCola.

    There's a lot of "disposable income" out there - next time you are in an airport magazine store, peruse a copy of The Robb Report. It's a gorgeous magazine catering to people who buy $1.2m watches, $1m cars, boats and $gagillion private jets. Yes, there is LOTS of money out there that I know I'll never see. And I'm fine with that.

    Is it necessarily the market to which THIS audience caters? Not really.
    Most of us are a bit more practical and while we recognize motorcycling as a hobby/toy/game - we do like the power and styling of the F6B.
    And the bang for the buck ratio can't be beat.

    I wish well for American companies.
    I wish well for the global economy.
    I wish all y'all a safe ride today.
    Cheers,
    Steve
    Wow. Well said! Yes, in upstate NY, we are in a bit of bubble with a marginal private sector economy and our small to medium sized cities with limited growth. The Rochester area is about 1.1 million, with a population rate increase of about .5% per year. When I fly to different parts of the country, I see what Steve is talking about. Lots of money, lots of development (sometimes unchecked, like Texas), lots of growth.

    That's great, but I will take our sputtering economy here and all the benefits that come with that, as strange as that sounds (not many traffic issues, more open space, etc).

    As for our Hondas, I love that anytime I want to go for a ride, the only thing I basically think about is the ride itself. The F6B is like a microwave...you don't think about whether it will work or need anything, because it almost never does...you just think about eating the food.
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    a LOT Of money for two pistons and a 120 lbs TORQ !

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    Quote Originally Posted by willtill View Post
    37 thousand dollars ?? Are you kidding me?


    I recently saw a top-of-the-line CVO Harley in a magazine that had an MSRP of $42,000!!!!....They can kiss my rosy red butt cheeks....Ride safe

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    Quote Originally Posted by willtill View Post
    I'm waiting for Polaris to knife their Slingshot product in the back.
    As I've stated here, you won't have long to wait. But it's not a knife in the back; the product is, and always has been, a steaming turd. And occasionally, the turd catches on fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdaniel View Post
    As I've stated here, you won't have long to wait. But it's not a knife in the back; the product is, and always has been, a steaming turd. And occasionally, the turd catches on fire.

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