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    Good looking steeds in that garage.
    Glad to hear you aren’t too busted up.
    Getting rear ended has always been my greatest fear.
    Hope you heal up fast and the Insurance doesn’t give you the runaround.

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    Was there any front or side plastic damage other then the rear bags ??? Pictures of the front ??? Got a better picture of that right valve cover ... any oil leaks ???

    I too am glad you are not hurt. I've learned at stops to sit and watch my mirrors for rear-enders. It also helps to flash my brake light more then once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by druggr View Post
    Was there any front or side plastic damage other then the rear bags ??? Pictures of the front ??? Got a better picture of that right valve cover ... any oil leaks ???
    Right side cover was busted in half, the right upper cowl is cracked, right mirror housing is beat up, lower front cowl is beat-up, left radiator cowl got nicked-up left saddle bag/rear cover's faster holes are damaged. Right valve cover looks to be beat up but crash bars did their thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TandemGeek View Post
    Right side cover was busted in half, the right upper cowl is cracked, right mirror housing is beat up, lower front cowl is beat-up, left radiator cowl got nicked-up left saddle bag/rear cover's faster holes are damaged. Right valve cover looks to be beat up but crash bars did their thing.
    Pictures that show all the damage would help. Any engine noise when running ??? Your b might be a total

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    Quote Originally Posted by druggr View Post
    Pictures that show all the damage would help. Any engine noise when running ??? Your b might be a total
    Why do you need pictures of all the damage? He has told what was damaged and it sounds like it will be a total loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by druggr View Post
    Pictures that show all the damage would help. Any engine noise when running ??? Your b might be a total
    The adjuster will do his thing and throw up some numbers. If they total it, fine. If they don't, then I'll send it over to a trusted Honda dealer to dive into. My guess is, they'll come up with a different estimate and then the insurance adjuster and the dealer's service advisor / insurance specialist will have to reconcile the differences and figure out where to go from there.

    Me, I'm just a spectator until they make me an offer that I'm willing to accept. And, since I've got other motorcycles to ride once I'm cleared to ride again, I'm not exactly motivated to accept a bad offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Av8er View Post
    Why do you need pictures of all the damage? He has told what was damaged and it sounds like it will be a total loss.
    Hopefully it's either a total loss, and he can wash his hands from it, or all the plastic, is removed for a proper inspection of all the subframes (Honda calls them "stays"), and all damage becomes part of the repair estimate prior to any repairs. If not inspected correctly, other damage is sometimes not discovered until much later.

    Quote Originally Posted by TandemGeek View Post
    The adjuster will do his thing and throw up some numbers. If they total it, fine. If they don't, then I'll send it over to a trusted Honda dealer to dive into. My guess is, they'll come up with a different estimate and then the insurance adjuster and the dealer's service advisor / insurance specialist will have to reconcile the differences and figure out where to go from there.

    Me, I'm just a spectator until they make me an offer that I'm willing to accept. And, since I've got other motorcycles to ride once I'm cleared to ride again, I'm not exactly motivated to accept a bad offer.
    That's pretty much what happens. Often the adjuster wants to write a check on the spot for any damage that is obvious. Everything else is "show me" and we'll settle up then. Because the mirror is damaged, its sub-frame that it mounts to could be damaged too. Sometime's the entire cowl, windshield, visor, and meter cluster has to be removed to see further damage. Obviously the rear subframe between the bags will need replaced. The valve cover should be removed and the cam, gear, chain, and cam cover be inspected for damage. If there is any cam cover damage, the head will need replaced. If the forward exhaust shield is damaged, it should be removed to inspect the header. Sometimes headers pipes get pushed in. Also, verify that the ignition still locks the bars. Sometimes a steering head gets tweeted. It's the unseen stuff that can easily push a repair into the "total" category.

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    With modern power sports equipment, it doesn't take much to do a lot of expensive damage.

    I hit a rock on a trail with one of my Yamaha sleds...hardly even noticed it, not a large impact...but it got the subframe just right and tweaked it.

    I first noticed a problem with trouble going into reverse gear. The mechanism (lever that is pulled out and over) would not keep it in gear; it would grind and pop out of gear.

    Brought it to the shop and the labor just devastated the estimate - over 40 hours worth of work to get that subframe replaced and there's no telling what other damage had occurred since I was making it incrementally worse by riding it, not knowing the sled was severely damaged from the rock.

    My insurance company stepped up and totaled it for me so I could get a replacement machine quickly. I had a $9200 check in my hand by mid-week.
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    Elderly Driving on Meds

    I was hit while waiting to turn right at a red light. I was waiting for a truck to get thru the intersection from my left when a senior citizen turned left in front of the big obvious truck. She also went thru a red turn arrow. I found myself looking at a car spinning towards me. Only one thought went thru my head as the car came: Don't get hit, jump onto the little car. I was unhurt. My old Burgman was totaled. The driver was meds that doped her up and she was 78. She admitted to the paramedic that she didn't want to drive that day because she wasn't feeling well. Found out later she had a stroke several months before but nobody in the family wanted to challenge her driving.

    It confirmed to me that I did the right thing 10 years ago when I took my Dad's keys away from him and sold the car when was 83. As hard as that conversation was, it would have been worse if I hadn't.

    I find this an incredibly hard issue. I don't think everyone who hits a certain age should lose that license. My father and mother in laws are both well into their 80s, but both of them are great drivers. They actually volunteer to drive handicapped and elderly around. And honestly, I don't know that I trust our state governments to make this decision. On what basis should someone lose their license? My dad would have had no trouble with the vision test and probably could have passed the simple road test North Carolina had. But I could not trust him. He'd backed into several things, would go thru lights and seemed to get lost easily. Only the people that know him well knew it.

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