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[ths61]

It is never very long in any discussion about the health of the planet when Al Gore is brought up. I have never seen the Al Gore documentaries, and I don't care too much about unwinding other people's scams or conspiracy theories. I get my information from peer reviewed research. I've gone into detail about the facts concerning climate at length on another thread here.

I welcome a real conversation about the data and the peer reviewed research. But I just can't bring myself to care too much about Al Gore.

Jason

Failing to recognize Al Gore is analogous to being an ostrich with its head in the sand. Al Gore is the poster child of green energy. It is all about $$$ and hypocracy. Forcing money out of the masses is the way to get rich in green energy. Al Gore and Elon Musk are riding the same fraudulent gravy train. A viable product and technology will stand on its own with willing private investors. When you have to steal from the masses to create an illusion of success, that is fraud. You would think with all of his millions he scammed off of green energy, he could afford solar panels to at least give the illusion he believes in what he is hocking.

[Verismo]

Failing to recognize Al Gore is analogous to being an ostrich with its head in the sand. Al Gore is the poster child of green energy. It is all about $$$ and hypocracy. Forcing money out of the masses is the way to get rich in green energy. Al Gore and Elon Musk are riding the same fraudulent gravy train. A viable product and technology will stand on its own. When you have to steal from the masses to create an illusion of success, that is fraud.

Al Gore isn't a climate scientist. And failing to understand that you shouldn't get your climate information from a politician is a little like taking your flat six to be repaired by a new Harley rider.

Jason

[ths61]

Al Gore isn't a climate scientist. And failing to understand that you shouldn't get your climate information from a politician is a little like taking your flat six to be repaired by a new Harley rider.

Jason

Nice deflection, but I never said he was a climate scientist. Neither is Bill Nye. I said he was a green energy/carbon footprint scam artist, huckster using the government to rob the taxpayers. Elon Musk is riding the same gravy train for the same reasons. Politicians use it to fund kickbacks. Globalists use it to control the flow of $$$ resources internationally.

[Verismo]

Nice deflection, but I never said he was a climate scientist. Neither is Bill Nye. I said he was a green energy/carbon footprint scam artist, huckster using the government to rob the taxpayers. Elon Musk is riding the same gravy train for the same reasons. Politicians use it to fund kickbacks. Globalists use it to control the flow of $$$ resources internationally.

LOL. So you think trying to steer a conversation about about climate science away from a politician and back toward an actual climate scientist is a deflection?

That is flatly backwards, ths61. And who said anything about Bill Nye? Also NOT a climate scientist. Talk about a deflection.

Do you have any debate about an actual climate scientist, peer reviewed and published in the field of climate science? Because to my mind, that would be much more relevant than trying to rely on a straw man like a politician or a children's entertainer.

Jason

[ths61]

LOL. So you think trying to steer a conversation about about climate science away from a politician and back toward an actual climate scientist is a deflection?

That is flatly backwards, ths61. And who said anything about Bill Nye? Also NOT a climate scientist. Talk about a deflection.

Do you have any debate about an actual climate scientist, peer reviewed and published in the field of climate science? Because to my mind, that would be much more relevant than trying to rely on a straw man like a politician or a children's entertainer.

Jason

Al Gore and Bill Nye are the chief climate poster boys leading the public media on green energy. You admit they are charlatans but yet they use the very same biased pay-for-pre-determined-result studies you reference. A little hint, when you get paid to reach a biased per-determined conclusion, guess what conclusion you present ? Answer: The one that keeps the $$$ flowing.

Those studies are rife with exclusion of data and studies that does not fit the narrative, locating thermal sensors in cement jungles, tweaking the data, etc., all which yield a pre-determined conclusion. The studies are also too short within the history of the earth to have any statistical relevance.

Also, you have yet to respond all of the all the fraud or to Phantom's factual post that fossil fuels are charging the batteries, facilitating the mining, processing, production, maintenance and support network of electric cars. It is all a slight of hand for the myopic feel-goods to believe in.

I am all for real viable clean energy. Just haven't seen it yet.

[Verismo]

Al Gore and Bill Nye are the chief climate poster boys leading the public media on green energy. You admit they are charlatans but yet they use the very same biased pay-for-pre-determined-result studies you reference. A little hint, when you get paid to reach a biased per-determined conclusion, guess what conclusion you present ? Answer: The one that keeps the $$$ flowing.

Those studies are rife with exclusion of data and studies that does not fit the narrative, locating thermal sensors in cement jungles, tweaking the data, etc., all which yield a pre-determined conclusion. The studies are also too short within the history of the earth to have any statistical relevance.

Also, you have yet to respond all of the all the fraud or to Phantom's factual post that fossil fuels are charging the batteries, facilitating the mining, processing, production, maintenance and support network of electric cars. It is all a slight of hand for the myopic feel-goods to believe in.

I am all for real viable clean energy. Just haven't seen it yet.

I don't say they are charlatans, Ths61. I say I don't know, and I honestly don't care to know, because I prefer reading actual research. As to "the studies I reference", how would you know? I haven't referenced any studies because you're too busy talking about Al Gore to have an actual conversation. And you missed the response to Phantom. All Supercharger stations will be converted to solar.

Jason

[ths61]

I don't say they are charlatans, Ths61. I say I don't know, and I honestly don't care to know, because I prefer reading actual research. As to "the studies I reference", how would you know? I haven't referenced any studies because you're too busy talking about Al Gore to have an actual conversation. And you missed the response to Phantom. All Supercharger stations will be converted to solar.
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You made sure to point out they are not climate scientists even though they are the biggest voices in the MSM.

You have referenced studies in your previous threads and numerous studies touted by the climate talking heads have been outright debunked as I already alluded to. Name one study that was not externally funded ?

...Also, you have yet to respond all of the all the fraud or to Phantom's factual post that fossil fuels are charging the batteries, facilitating the mining, processing, production, maintenance and support network of electric cars. ...

You parroted something Elon Musk said about charging stations, you did not respond to the fraud or to the mining, processing, production, maintenance and support of the network of electric cars all being done by fossil fuels. I have yet to see a solar powered strip mine, solar powered earth movers, etc. You are only picking and choosing small parts, not the complete process that makes up the actual carbon dioxide footprint.