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Delta
03-08-2017, 06:12 PM
Temps got into the mid 50s today. Perfect time to test the handling with the newly installed fork brace. I like it. I did notice that both my tires started singing as I leaned her over more then usual through the corners. Don't recall hearing that. Maybe it's because I had the tunes turned off. I got 7200 miles on the tires with good tread depth and the tires don't appear to be cupped or feathered. I run the recommended tire pressure of 36F / 41 rear. I was hoping to get 10,000 miles out of the Stones before I go to Elite 4s.

FOBO should arrive via FedEx on Saturday. I'll be watching TPs like a hawk instead of every couple of weeks like I had been doing.

My part time job is 5 miles away; but, I found a 35 mile shortcut home. I think my wife understands my new math.

Rudy
03-08-2017, 06:27 PM
I noticed mine also started singing around the 7k mile mark. I now have about 8,500 miles on the original tires and still sings when I am leaning into a turn. My tires still have good tread and I watch the air pressure. Hmmm?

seadog
03-08-2017, 06:37 PM
Temps got into the mid 50s today. Perfect time to test the handling with the newly installed fork brace. I like it. I did notice that both my tires started singing as I leaned her over more then usual through the corners. Don't recall hearing that. Maybe it's because I had the tunes turned off. I got 7200 miles on the tires with good tread depth and the tires don't appear to be cupped or feathered. I run the recommended tire pressure of 36F / 41 rear. I was hoping to get 10,000 miles out of the Stones before I go to Elite 4s.

FOBO should arrive via FedEx on Saturday. I'll be watching TPs like a hawk instead of every couple of weeks like I had been doing.

My part time job is 5 miles away; but, I found a 35 mile shortcut home. I think my wife understands my new math.

It seems to me that tires singing when going thru a leaning curve doesn't sound to me like everything is kosher. I would double check how your forks are aligned and loosen up your fork brace with the front tire elevated and then retighten your brace. I might be wrong but that just doesn't sound right too me.

six2go
03-08-2017, 06:51 PM
It seems to me that tires singing when going thru a leaning curve doesn't sound to me like everything is kosher. I would double check how your forks are aligned and loosen up your fork brace with the front tire elevated and then retighten your brace. I might be wrong but that just doesn't sound right too me.It's normal. Some tires do it more and sooner than others. I went through this for 17 yrs of Valkyrie ownership and different brands of tires. I think keeping pressure up around 40F & 42R helps keep it at bay for awhile. As the center of the tires wear & flatten out, the tires will sing when you lean and transition to the tread either side of center. The bodywork(panels) on some bikes make it more noticeable too. Kinda forms an echo chamber.

Dirtstiff's F6B
03-08-2017, 06:52 PM
When you lean or turn, your hearing the difference in tire tread between having more tread left in the side than in the center.

Delta
03-08-2017, 07:06 PM
I will recheck the fork brace install tomorrow. What is the reasoning behind keeping the front tire elevated verses being on the center stand? I was hoping that the sound was caused by the tread depth difference. It rides smooth with no vibration felt in the handlebars.

six2go
03-08-2017, 07:10 PM
I will recheck the fork brace install tomorrow. What is the reasoning behind keeping the front tire elevated verses being on the center stand? I was hoping that the sound was caused by the tread depth difference. It rides smooth with no vibration felt in the handlebars.I don't think you have a problem.

53driver
03-08-2017, 07:41 PM
My tires started singing at about 16k. Needed :yikes: replacement at 18k.

DMAGOLDRDR
03-08-2017, 07:44 PM
This may be an odd question but have you changed helmets?
I notice a big difference in tire noise when I go from my half to full face helmet.

Just a thought.

Delta
03-08-2017, 07:48 PM
Nope, still wearing the 3/4 lid. I'm wondering if it's a combination of riding on the aggressive side and being early in the riding season for me and I have to get used to the sounds again.

seadog
03-08-2017, 07:51 PM
It's normal. Some tires do it more and sooner than others. I went through this for 17 yrs of Valkyrie ownership and different brands of tires. I think keeping pressure up around 40F & 42R helps keep it at bay for awhile. As the center of the tires wear & flatten out, the tires will sing when you lean and transition to the tread either side of center. The bodywork(panels) on some bikes make it more noticeable too. Kinda forms an echo chamber.

I wore out a bunch of tires on my M109R usually every 7 or 8 thousand miles I needed a set and never once did I hear the tires sing on a curve and I have worn out one set on my F6B and no singing there either, I think Dolly must be a dancer and not a singer. JMHO

bob109
03-08-2017, 08:38 PM
Temps got into the mid 50s today. Perfect time to test the handling with the newly installed fork brace. I like it. I did notice that both my tires started singing as I leaned her over more then usual through the corners. Don't recall hearing that. Maybe it's because I had the tunes turned off. I got 7200 miles on the tires with good tread depth and the tires don't appear to be cupped or feathered. I run the recommended tire pressure of 36F / 41 rear. I was hoping to get 10,000 miles out of the Stones before I go to Elite 4s.

FOBO should arrive via FedEx on Saturday. I'll be watching TPs like a hawk instead of every couple of weeks like I had been doing.

My part time job is 5 miles away; but, I found a 35 mile shortcut home. I think my wife understands my new math.

As has been mentioned, try "jacking/upping" your front pressure to 40PSI! The 36 psi recommended by Honda will quickly induce cupping!

Delta
03-08-2017, 08:59 PM
As has been mentioned, try "jacking/upping" your front pressure to 40PSI! The 36 psi recommended by Honda will quickly induce cupping!

Duh, stupid me. I had been running 38F / 40R. This morning I reset the TP to those recommended by Honda. It was after that I noticed the new sounds. Guess the easiest thing to do is increase the TP and see what happens. Don't know why this piece of critical info slipped my mind.

Thanks for the reminder.

rumble-b
03-09-2017, 12:08 AM
Mine does the same the thing. Got new tyres and it's not as noticeable. Just the wear difference as said before.

Travelor
03-09-2017, 06:54 AM
As has been mentioned, try "jacking/upping" your front pressure to 40PSI! The 36 psi recommended by Honda will quickly induce cupping!

Cupping might be riding "style" induced. I stick to 36 psi and have 14,500 on front tire with no cupping. Will change it in another 1,000 as it will be down to the wear bars. 36 psi also a lot smoother than 40 psi. Rear replaced at 13,300.

tiltingf6b
03-09-2017, 07:11 AM
Temps got into the mid 50s today. Perfect time to test the handling with the newly installed fork brace. I like it. I did notice that both my tires started singing as I leaned her over more then usual through the corners. Don't recall hearing that. Maybe it's because I had the tunes turned off. I got 7200 miles on the tires with good tread depth and the tires don't appear to be cupped or feathered. I run the recommended tire pressure of 36F / 41 rear. I was hoping to get 10,000 miles out of the Stones before I go to Elite 4s.

FOBO should arrive via FedEx on Saturday. I'll be watching TPs like a hawk instead of every couple of weeks like I had been doing.

My part time job is 5 miles away; but, I found a 35 mile shortcut home. I think my wife understands my new math.

Nice shortcut!

2wheelsforme
03-09-2017, 08:21 AM
I often hear of problems when running too low of a pressure but never anything with too high a pressure. I run 41 to 46 in both tires and no problems with cupping, singing or any abnormal wearing. Usually get 12 or so on the rear and about 15 on the front with good brand tires like E3 etc.. Just wondering about any disadvantage to even 48 or more pounds of pressure. Think erring on the high side is better than on the low. Thinking it is better to air up at a high number and leak down to perfect than air up at perfect and leak down to low. Every tire I've ever had loses a little air over time.

Delta
03-09-2017, 12:13 PM
Today I increased the front TP to 40 and a lot of the singing went away. Ran my hand over the sides of the tire and could not feel any feathering or cupping. After, just to satisfy my curiosity, I reinstalled the fork brace. When I originally installed it I torqued the bolts to 10 ft/lbs. I noticed that the rear bolts were not even snug. Time for some Blue Loctite. Reinstalling took a little more noise away. Looks like it was a combination of things. Thanks for the suggestions.