F6B would not start!

[imscots]

A heads up to all on the forum. I came out the other morning to jump on the B and head to work as I do every morning. I have 2015 F6B Deluxe that I got new. anyway, the starter spun up but no engine catch? I checked everything I could think of. In Gear, Fuel, fuel off switch in on position etc. nothing. So I go inside and call dealer who tells me it may be a starter problem, but he is so backed up it may take a week to look at. anyway, I go back out and try again, and still nothing. started spinning strong, but engine not catching and THEN I tapped the top of the fuel off/on switch on the handlebar and bingo, she started up right away. Go Figure? I never use the fuel off/on switch as the Honda Handbook says to leave it in the run (on) position and use key to cut off engine. anyway, she is running flawlessly again as usual. but from now on I am using the fuel of/on all the time.

[Crazyhorse]

A heads up to all on the forum. I came out the other morning to jump on the B and head to work as I do every morning. I have 2015 F6B Deluxe that I got new. anyway, the starter spun up but no engine catch? I checked everything I could think of. In Gear, Fuel, fuel off switch in on position etc. nothing. So I go inside and call dealer who tells me it may be a starter problem, but he is so backed up it may take a week to look at. anyway, I go back out and try again, and still nothing. started spinning strong, but engine not catching and THEN I tapped the top of the fuel off/on switch on the handlebar and bingo, she started up right away. Go Figure? I never use the fuel off/on switch as the Honda Handbook says to leave it in the run (on) position and use key to cut off engine. anyway, she is running flawlessly again as usual. but from now on I am using the fuel of/on all the time.

Is that the same as the kill switch?

[53driver]

Is that the same as the kill switch?

In California, they can't call it a "kill switch" - too many people would be offended!

imscots: yes, yours is one of a handful of bikes that have had this issue.
Are you, by chance, near the salt water, or do a lot of riding on the coast?

A little preventive maintenance will go a long way in those environments.
Electrical contact cleaner and some di-lectric grease on the contacts.

Cheers,
Steve

[deacon]

Exact same thing happened to me last Sat.only I was a 100 miles from home,after turning kill switch off and on several times she fired up, no problems since!

[blackmetoc]

Exact same thing happened to me last Sat.only I was a 100 miles from home,after turning kill switch off and on several times she fired up, no problems since!

John in northern MS is replacing his ignition pulse generator this weekend. He had a 19 flash error code and it sounds like the same problem. Turns over but won't fire.

[imscots]

In California, they can't call it a "kill switch" - too many people would be offended!

imscots: yes, yours is one of a handful of bikes that have had this issue.
Are you, by chance, near the salt water, or do a lot of riding on the coast?

A little preventive maintenance will go a long way in those environments.
Electrical contact cleaner and some di-lectric grease on the contacts.

Cheers,
Steve

Yea Steve, I am on the coast, very near Huntington Beach, and I will do some lubrication on it! Thanks

[53driver]

John in northern MS is replacing his ignition pulse generator this weekend. He had a 19 flash error code and it sounds like the same problem. Turns over but won't fire.

Code 19 is NOT the Ignition Pulse Generator!
It's the Crankshaft Position Sensor.
What does he hope to achieve by replacing the IPG?

Curious,
Steve

[C'Ville]

18 Blinks • Engine does not start
• Loose or poorly connected camshaft position sensor connector
• Open or short circuit in camshaft position sensor wire: • Faulty camshaft position sensor


19 Blinks • Engine does not start
• Loose or poorly connected ignition pulse generator connector:
• Open or short circuit in ignition pulse generator wire: • Faulty ignition pulse generator

[C'Ville]

Code 19 is NOT the Ignition Pulse Generator!
It's the Crankshaft Position Sensor.
What does he hope to achieve by replacing the IPG?

Curious,
Steve

Code 19 is the IPG at every site I found, and the Honda Dealer confirmed it.
Code 18 is the CamShaft position sensor.
I kinda hope to achieve an F6B that will start when I hit the start button, Steve.

[willtill]

Code 19 is the IPG at every site I found, and the Honda Dealer confirmed it.
Code 18 is the CamShaft position sensor.
I kinda hope to achieve an F6B that will start when I hit the start button, Steve.

Anything with tits or a motor will soon give you trouble. :shhh:

Just get it fixed.

I have to tear into my DR650 tomorrow myself, the cam cover is seeping oil, Suzuki didn't assemble it properly with gasket sealer (common issue with these bikes).

[C'Ville]

My good buddy Bart and his son came this morning and assisted with my repair. We got the Ignition Pulse Generator replaced, and I did the Air Filter while I was in the bike.
So far so good, it busted right off and hopefully I'm good for awhile.

[53driver]

18 Blinks • Engine does not start
• Loose or poorly connected camshaft position sensor connector
• Open or short circuit in camshaft position sensor wire: • Faulty camshaft position sensor


19 Blinks • Engine does not start
• Loose or poorly connected ignition pulse generator connector:
• Open or short circuit in ignition pulse generator wire: • Faulty ignition pulse generator

Okay...not starting a "who's reference is more correct" argument, but......
I'm staring at my 2012-2014 GL1800/A GL1800B/BD Service manual.....
pg 4-13
Code 18: CMP Loose Sensor / No Signal
Code 19: CKP sensor no signal

pg 4-27
DTC 18-1 (CMP Sensor) Troubleshooting and Diagnostics
pg 4-28
DTC 19-1 (CKP Sensor) Troubleshooting & Diagnostics

So, I'm truly confused as my Honda Dealership "verified" the Code 19 as the Crank Position Sensor
....grumble....

[53driver]

Code 19 is the IPG at every site I found, and the Honda Dealer confirmed it.
Code 18 is the CamShaft position sensor.
I kinda hope to achieve an F6B that will start when I hit the start button, Steve.


My good buddy Bart and his son came this morning and assisted with my repair. We got the Ignition Pulse Generator replaced, and I did the Air Filter while I was in the bike.
So far so good, it busted right off and hopefully I'm good for awhile.

I am VERY glad to hear that she started right up!
That's awesome news.

Cheers,
Steve

[53driver]

Anything with tits or a motor will soon give you trouble. :shhh:

Just get it fixed....

How's that OLD saying go: "If it floats, flies, or fscks, it's cheaper to rent!"

[C'Ville]

I am VERY glad to hear that she started right up!
That's awesome news.

Cheers,
Steve

Me TOO Steve, ready to ride!!

[cosborn]

Yep, I've posted this a couple of times now.
My 2013 model had the same problem early in its life and it was the CKP sensor, simply got it replaced (about $120au) and 60,000km down the track, no problem.

Chris