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53driver
09-07-2017, 07:10 PM
Was following a friend in the Dragon awhile back.......
Yeah, I truly confess I want the tire engineers to tell me that the tire is rated for those lateral force vectors on the sidewall.


https://i.imgur.com/zlRJw7e.jpg


I'm not saying that y'all are wrong or incorrect....but with everyone insisting that I try it, I'm just letting y'all know what I want, in writing, first.
Cheers,
Steve

jm21ddd15
09-07-2017, 08:18 PM
:stirthepot: :popcorn:

willtill
09-07-2017, 08:36 PM
That darksider has too much air in his tire.

Kinda funny though... I didn't have any issues at all with my car tire and this last F6B Rally in the smokies. Ran 28lbs cold.. she deformed correctly in turns and gripped the pavement better than a whore grasping a $20.00 bill...

My story.

bob109
09-07-2017, 08:38 PM
Was following a friend in the Dragon awhile back.......
Yeah, I truly confess I want the tire engineers to tell me that the tire is rated for those lateral force vectors on the sidewall.


https://i.imgur.com/zlRJw7e.jpg


I'm not saying that y'all are wrong or incorrect....but with everyone insisting that I try it, I'm just letting y'all know what I want, in writing, first.
Cheers,
Steve

If this Video Post doesn't work Google "Tire Force Test Video"! Approximately 1:31 seconds long the subject tire is subjected to more force than a cycle rider would induce in a hundred years:shhh:

Tire Force Test - YouTube

willtill
09-08-2017, 06:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmo_dkNZIHM

Go to about :50 in this one for lateral force demo....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfBPnHHT7y0

More torture testing. This is particularly for Steve... for this is the Holy Grail he has been seeking:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryDZhDPaYdo

bob109
09-08-2017, 06:56 AM
Thanks Will:039:

willtill
09-08-2017, 06:58 AM
Thanks Will:039:

No problem Bob. We'll get Steve to come around to the Darkside one of these days.... :icon_mrgreen: He just has to overcome his unreasonable fears now... :shhh:

It's our mission. :icon_lol:

bob109
09-08-2017, 07:08 AM
No problem Bob. We'll get Steve to come around to the Darkside one of these days.... :icon_mrgreen:

It's our mission. :icon_lol:

We'll call it "casual persuasion" also known a "liquid courage":icon_lol:

Retired Army
09-08-2017, 07:24 AM
I double my pleasure and double my fun, I use two car tires instead of one.

53driver
10-20-2017, 09:07 PM
Thanks guys.
The videos were impressive for auto applications.
Never was the tire at a 45 degree angle to its nominal impact area and subjected to those stresses.....

I'm going to keep looking for data.
Cheers,
Steve

willtill
10-21-2017, 06:46 AM
Thanks guys.
The videos were impressive for auto applications.
Never was the tire at a 45 degree angle to its nominal impact area and subjected to those stresses.....

I'm going to keep looking for data.
Cheers,
Steve

Well... it has come down to this then... :icon_mrgreen:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMEg_jgF9U0

53driver
10-21-2017, 08:08 AM
Ah peer pressure....yeah....only works on someone who has at least one "youknowwhat" to give.
Sadly, the USMC took all mine and now I have Zero.
So says my coin.

Cheers,
Steve

Felloverboard
01-30-2018, 12:18 PM
IF you have the correct CT it speaks for itself..... Example, a Bridgestone DriveGuard Run Flat is designed to give an automobile (think of the weight) to be able to drive 50 miles at 50 mph on ZERO pressure. That would be excessive pressure on any sidewall. I have 28,000 miles on my Driveguard, Interstate, Mountains, Dragon 10 times, 98* temps on the road in FL and several winter trips to WV waiting on outside temps to get to 50* for the 1000 mile trip home. After getting used to the feel of the tire, 28--30 lbs has proven best for me. BT45 on the front with 16k on the tire at 41 lbs still looks close to new. The rear tire DOES Not ride on the sidewall, it conforms to the ride curvature and always has at least as much rubber on the ground as a Moto tire. Never had a slip in dry or wet and lots of rain in FL. This is one of the top rated tires for traction on cars for wet traction with soft rubber on both outer edges and a silica band in the middle for mileage. The torque on the F6B will still scorch these tires if wanted for a short distance. The only drawback I know is in a parking lot going 0--5 mph it is a little harder to maneuver.