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ths61
12-19-2017, 06:51 PM
According to the founder of Greenpeace, "hotter is wetter".

Long, but interesting points. First part is establishing credentials and history before getting into topic.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDK1aCqqZkQ

thumper 549
12-20-2017, 03:27 PM
"Climate change advocating " is a religion, not a science.
Nothing can be proven either way.
there are times of long ago when there was a LOT more CO2 in the atmosphere.

https://www.livescience.com/44330-jurassic-dinosaur-carbon-dioxide.html

willtill
12-20-2017, 06:38 PM
"Climate change advocating " is a religion, not a science.
Nothing can be proven either way.
there are times of long ago when there was a LOT more CO2 in the atmosphere.

https://www.livescience.com/44330-jurassic-dinosaur-carbon-dioxide.html

Yep.

Preaching to the choir of course.. You won't live long enough to worry about it... if it was an issue. None of us will. Neither will our offspring (sans me) or their offspring.

Miks
12-20-2017, 08:04 PM
It has been changing for thousands of years, and I wonder if Dinosaur farts caused the first round of global warming?

BUT, the truth is there isn't any science here with the current global warming crowd, so it turns me off for certain sure!

Heatnbeat
12-20-2017, 09:50 PM
There were dinosaurs in Colorado once upon a time. It must have been quite a bit warmer than now. Besides that, who's to say what the correct temp is for the globe?

crossbowme
12-20-2017, 09:55 PM
I live 325' above sea level. Can't wait to have shore property and moor by boat out front.

lake_carl
12-22-2017, 08:44 AM
Do any of you remember when lake Erie basically had no fish because extreme pollution, or when LA often had smog alerts because air quality was so bad. These are 2 good examples on small scale how much humans can change local climate, not hard at all to understand how at slower rate we are affecting bigger changes. Investigate fracking and earth quakes.

thumper 549
12-22-2017, 09:45 AM
For the most part, we are all, in this case, a victim.
And like said,- global warming or cooling is not a science but a religion of believers and screamers
A victim of what the earth does. (volcano argument)
Those that want to charge another more money for being supposed guilty of making the earth more warm
for something is a knee-jerk feel reaction and does nothing for either agency.
Here is why-

We the have the wackos' cow fart argument and they forget the N.America used to have over
60 million buffalo out on the range compared to a cow population now which is 77 to 95 million
depending what reference you want to quote, as that pretty much wshes the hands of each other.
So have at it, but remember the last ice age was caused by the LACK of C02 !

Life has been on this planet OVER 450 MILLION years, wrap your head around that.
Yes, 450 Million.
The last ice age started 2.5 million years ago...... and ENDED ..... just 11/2 thousand years ago.
THINK about THAT.

Do you want to change the Co2 ratio now?
really?
yiou will frezze your arse off!

The Greenhouse propaganda is a BS agency and that is all it is.

BIGLRY
12-22-2017, 05:06 PM
For the most part, we are all, in this case, a victim.
And like said,- global warming or cooling is not a science but a religion of believers and screamers
A victim of what the earth does. (volcano argument)
Those that want to charge another more money for being supposed guilty of making the earth more warm
for something is a knee-jerk feel reaction and does nothing for either agency.
Here is why-

We the have the wackos' cow fart argument and they forget the N.America used to have over
60 million buffalo out on the range compared to a cow population now which is 77 to 95 million
depending what reference you want to quote, as that pretty much wshes the hands of each other.
So have at it, but remember the last ice age was caused by the LACK of C02 !

Life has been on this planet OVER 450 MILLION years, wrap your head around that.
Yes, 450 Million.
The last ice age started 2.5 million years ago...... and ENDED ..... just 11/2 thousand years ago.
THINK about THAT.

Do you want to change the Co2 ratio now?
really?
yiou will frezze your arse off!

The Greenhouse propaganda is a BS agency and that is all it is.
http://6336-presscdn-26-82.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/756521.jpeg

thumper 549
12-22-2017, 05:45 PM
It's a great mental exercise as I have to look up the dates for everything...
Most people have not ever sat down and tried to postulate time.
100 years EZ
A 1000 a little harder
Millions?
So when we think of the ice age ending on a scale of time less than 10 seconds ago........
I do not see how anyone would have such a knee-jerk reaction(s) as some do.
Most of us measure time from the date of our birth certificate.
70 years is not even a spec of dust on the scales of time

willtill
12-22-2017, 07:18 PM
It's a great mental exercise as I have to look up the dates for everything...
Most people have not ever sat down and tried to postulate time.
100 years EZ
A 1000 a little harder
Millions?
So when we think of the ice age ending on a scale of time less than 10 seconds ago........
I do not see how anyone would have such a knee-jerk reaction(s) as some do.
Most of us measure time from the date of our birth certificate.
70 years is not even a spec of dust on the scales of time

How about this...

..after 100 years has elapsed, no one will really care about your (anyone's) death anymore. No one. Think about that.

thumper 549
12-22-2017, 08:30 PM
Less then that, really.