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2wheelsforme
01-18-2019, 06:06 PM
Hard to make an exact determination as to what exactly a Cruiser is but: I'm thinking and in order V-Max, Diavel, Rocket, Valk/F6B, V-Rod, Octane, M109 then one of the high dollar HDs maybe? The question is does the new GW with no trunk make it self a position at number 4 pushing our old 6s back a notch?

Joflewbyu2
01-18-2019, 07:45 PM
The F6B is not a cruiser but a bagger. The F6C Valkyrie is a cruiser. Muscle cruisers do not have bags but are large bikes for around town. Muscle cruisers are soft in the market now. Not enough muscle to outgun a crotch rocket and not enough storage to compete with a bagger / touring bike.

Dirtstiff's F6B
01-18-2019, 09:08 PM
Vtx 1800

Sorcerer
01-18-2019, 09:41 PM
Considering that the 2018+ 1833cc is limited to 112 mph and our OLD tired, out dated F6B’s are limited to 125 mph. With the smaller fuel tank yet higher mpg of the 1833 compared to our larger capacity fuel tank and lower mpg’s, how far you can travel before needing to fill up is nearly a wash also. The 1833 requires more oil at change and if you have a DCT you need another oil filter for the transmission. Most if not all the bikes on your list will out run the new Wing in a top end run. The 1833 DCT in sport mode with it’s traction control will take the lead but roll over on its self at 112 mph. Our F6Bs will then real them in and pass. Now if you like and understand and use the electronic gadgets on the 1833 then it surpasses our F6Bs.

soupbean
01-19-2019, 07:34 AM
I cruise quite comfortably on my ‘16 Deluxe..!

gadgeteer
01-19-2019, 07:40 AM
I cruise quite comfortably on my ‘16 Deluxe..!

+1 :cool:

2wheelsforme
01-19-2019, 07:46 AM
Agree with Dirtstiff on the VTX 1800, have one and really like it, most don't think it will keep up with the top bikes for quickness, but it is plenty strong enough for me. And yes soupbean I love the comfort of my F6B also and it is more than quick enough for me.

Ghost Rider
01-19-2019, 08:01 AM
I had a 1500 Valkyrie. that thing was bad ass for 50 or so yards. Torque vs weight the thing would move. about the time it got moving good in 4th gear it was just out or a nice ride. I always figured all the low end power was because of he offset 6 degree timing gear they installed on Valk motors

jmdaniel
01-19-2019, 08:57 AM
I've never thought "cruiser" was a term used for anything but V-Twins.

Retired Army
01-19-2019, 09:06 AM
What is the Boss Hoss considered? It has a small block Chevy 350 V8 and weighs in at well over 1,000 lbs.

jmdaniel
01-19-2019, 09:16 AM
What is the Boss Hoss considered? It has a small block Chevy 350 V8 and weighs in at well over 1,000 lbs.

I've always thought of it as a nut roaster. YMMV.

olegoat345
01-19-2019, 10:12 AM
+one

edgeman55
01-19-2019, 04:43 PM
I cruise quite comfortably on my ‘16 Deluxe..!

+2 :cool:

Verismo
01-19-2019, 06:15 PM
I've always thought of it as a nut roaster. YMMV.

I believe it. So's the Rocket. Good looking bike, but it doesn't feel that much quicker than the Valk, and where the Valk is zero heat, that car radiator on the front of the Rocket feels like riding behind an oven with the door open.

Jason

Ixol Phaane
01-20-2019, 12:04 AM
Does anyone recall which magazine write up labeled the F6B as a "heavy cruiser" a few years ago?
I thought that was so appropriate. :)

RuneRider66
01-20-2019, 12:25 AM
Where does my RUNE come in....I am ready to rock and roll.....

2wheelsforme
01-20-2019, 09:46 AM
I'm guessing the rune, valk, F6B and GL are all pretty close. I guess the valk fits the cruiser category best and prob the lightest so possibly the quickest.

Sorcerer
01-20-2019, 12:01 PM
My Valk dynoed at 97 hp. Both of my F6Bs, 2013 and 2014 at 104 hp. My Valk saw 130 mph. I quite, it had more left in it. With the difference in power to weight ratios both bikes were very close to each other. The only real difference between the two was cornering clearances. That I discovered the very first hour of owning my F6B. Made my normal left hand flip onto the freeway entrance ramp and promptly ripped my foot off the peg and almost under the saddle bag. Ankle and knee hurt for a day.

olegoat345
01-20-2019, 12:27 PM
Don't think you could call the RUNE or The Valk. a bagger... no bags. Maybe big cruisers? I would say Yamaha's V-Max is more of a drag bike. The older ones would turn in the 11's out of the box, new one's should be faster..... Many years ago, my baby brother, had a new (back then) V-Max, it was wicked fast. He said it was uncomfortable after 30-45 minutes.

tenxxx
01-20-2019, 02:29 PM
Don't think you could call the RUNE or The Valk. a bagger... no bags. Maybe big cruisers? I would say Yamaha's V-Max is more of a drag bike. The older ones would turn in the 11's out of the box, new one's should be faster..... Many years ago, my baby brother, had a new (back then) V-Max, it was wicked fast. He said it was uncomfortable after 30-45 minutes.
My 85 v-max was very uncomfortable. I put a Corbin seat on and it helped a little. Corbin is so hard.
It only weighted 650lb and the power (142hp at the crank) was effortless. But it loved the highway on long cruses, as does the B.
If I could have had a comfortable seat, I never would have got rid of it.
The internet says the 2013 B Has 117hp and 125 ft lbs torque.
Anytime you have more torque that hp, you have a runner!

vstar09
01-21-2019, 03:33 PM
Does anyone recall which magazine write up labeled the F6B as a "heavy cruiser" a few years ago?
I thought that was so appropriate. :)

I believe it was the May 2013 issue of Motorcycle Cruiser, thats where I first saw one and knew I had to have one !

VStarRider
01-22-2019, 07:30 PM
Is the 117 hp at the engine, 104 at the wheel ...?

broncsrule21
01-22-2019, 10:10 PM
Is the 117 hp at the engine, 104 at the wheel ...?

yes

Bearpaw
04-16-2019, 07:21 AM
I had a VTX 1800 and thought man this bike is fast but then went to a Rocket III which dynoed at 143 HP 146 FT LBS.
THE Rocket is too much to enjoy all day riding without showing out so it's for sale and now on a 13 F6B.
I seen the F6B when its first come out and drooled over owning one since , well last Oct I was able to purchase a Red one very pleased.