Darkside

[Switchmonkey]

https://youtu.be/hEZeR9E3JyY

Interesting...

[OlyF6B]

After decades of reading the online debate on this topic, this is the first time I've personally viewed something that is a fair and balanced evaluation about such a controversial topic. I've never taken a side... b/c I do what I want to do (i.e., mod) on my scoot and I don't judge what other people do to their scoot. Each to his/her own and at the end of the day, I'm just glad that I can still head out on an enjoyable ride...

All that said, it's still raining here in the PNW... so I'll shift gears and head over to my fav car forum and read more opinions about the great debate over "Paint your calipers vs. installing painted covers." ;-)

[bob109]

"Darksiding".....................Nothing more than a "State of Mind"...............Mount It, Ride It, Enjoy It.........Worst Case, you return to a MC Tire!

[DaWadd]

Good video.

[F6Dave]

A good balanced video. Most of what he said wasn't surprising at all. Most riders know intuitively that car tires cost less and last longer. Most also realize they won't handle as well as a MC tire, otherwise we'd see some variation of them running in Moto GP.

A question I have is about the bead fit. He modified a tube type rim to run a tubeless tire. But does a car tire mounted on a MC rim designed for tubeless tires have the same bead fit issues he mentioned?

[Davidk]

I went DS after my first tire wore out. I have not noticed any change in handling. I think oh has to do with finding the right CT and finding the right air pressure

[Ghost Rider]

I disagree with his comment about the way a dark side bike handles. His light weight adventure type bike may not like a car tire. I installed a car tire on a Kawasaki Concours that I owned and I did not care much for it either. But on the F6B or full Wing I think they are fantastic. I have about 50,000 miles on the dark side and I have no plans of going back to a bike tire.

[bob109]

IMHO Heavy Cruisers i.e. those bikes over 700 lbs. are perfect candidates for a CT! With over 60K miles on a CT on my F6B, I'll never return to a MT!

[valkmc]

He forgot to mention Run Flat as a benefit. I don't believe there is a motorcycle run flat, could be wrong.

[Ewreck]

It be cool to see some professional riders get a car tire on a track and push em as far as they’d go. I doubt I’d ever get close either way. Freedom of choice is a great thing.

[Felloverboard]

It is easy to see that the video represents limited and fully uninformed information. The individual is definitley a Democrat. The video shows an overinflated CT which should only have 28--30 lbs of air. He is showing the tire riding too high on the edge which does not allow the tire to bend as rubber tires are designed to do. My last Driveguard when taken off had 30k miles at 29lb average and the center still wearing out on my F6B. Never any sign of any sidewall wear or damage. I ran many miles on the BRP and the Dragon and have never felt as secure as having a runflat on my bike on long trips. But as He said, it also holds a much greater payload which should always appeal to anyone 2-up packed for a trip. The Driveguard has increased in value and is not that much cheaper than a basic MT. The Yokohama ZPS is the same. These videos do not show apples to apples with an experienced DS rider giving his opinion but only person of limited information giving his uninformed opinion.... a Democrap..... I posted this same response on the GL board as they have for many years discussed this..... I got a very large screw in my RF Drivegaurd sometime back at 30k and drove it 10 miles home with the nail clanking on the edge of the tire as it was flat. Decided at 30k to replace instead of plug. If it had been less mileage I would have used a basic plug and went on. I could easily still plug that same tire I drove home on and get another 5k on it. there is no damage to the tire otherwise.