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wjduke
06-12-2021, 04:39 PM
On this trip I’m taking it’s going to be the middle of the summer. Last year at the same time, I did a similar trip south. Did the BRP and the Skyline Drive in full. Anyway, it hit the upper 90’s on the way down, especially when I hit 81. When I got to my hotel in Front Royal, my vision was fading and I think I had a touch of heat stroke. What’s the general opinion out here on an item like this? What size also? They’re not expensive, but I don’t want to be bogged down like a backpack either. Thanks for any input.

Az Wingrider
06-12-2021, 07:55 PM
I can sympathize with your problem. Dehydration is a serious threat during summer riding. I made a hydration system that consists of a one gallon insulated Coleman water jug with 1/4 inch food grade clear plastic tubing and a camelback bite valve. I mad a fixture that bolts to the right rear crash bar and right passenger peg. When you raise the drinking spout on the Coleman gallon jug the opening is big enough you can force the tubing down the spout and into the jug. About six inches from bite valve i wrap the tubing with Velcro and secure it with small tie wraps. A small piece of Velcro with adhesive back stuck to the top of the gas door gives a place to put the hose when you are riding. I can fill the jug with ice and then water and I stay hydrated all day. Making the bracket to go on the crash bar and rear foot peg is the only fabricating required. I used this system for over six years with no problems.

Good Luck
Az Wingrider

willtill
06-12-2021, 08:23 PM
I can sympathize with your problem. Dehydration is a serious threat during summer riding. I made a hydration system that consists of a one gallon insulated Coleman water jug with 1/4 inch food grade clear plastic tubing and a camelback bite valve. I mad a fixture that bolts to the right rear crash bar and right passenger peg. When you raise the drinking spout on the Coleman gallon jug the opening is big enough you can force the tubing down the spout and into the jug. About six inches from bite valve i wrap the tubing with Velcro and secure it with small tie wraps. A small piece of Velcro with adhesive back stuck to the top of the gas door gives a place to put the hose when you are riding. I can fill the jug with ice and then water and I stay hydrated all day. Making the bracket to go on the crash bar and rear foot peg is the only fabricating required. I used this system for over six years with no problems.

Good Luck
Az Wingrider

That is exactly something I've been trying to create, off and on. My other option is to design a bracket that would attach to the right front fairing, where my right knee points to. Like an oversized drink holder. I can't bear the thought of drilling into that particular area of the Tupperware though. Possibly two side adhesive tape would work, but the heat from the radiator may soften it too much. Still kicking it around.

For now I just drink as much water as I can at each gas stop. Then I have to pee later. First world problems, I know....

tenxxx
06-12-2021, 09:01 PM
A cup holder works good for me. A little fabric cooler in the trunk.
A cup with a straw in the cup holder. I can lean forward and take a sip.
In hot weather you need to get off and wet your long sleeve shirt. Fishing shirts work nice.
Keep the sun off as much as possible. I ware an extra large half helmet with a big vizor.
Or get innovative and design something, then share it with us.

wjduke
06-13-2021, 05:34 AM
Well, fabricating isn’t my thing. I drank all the way down, stopping for fuel and making stops just to cool off and still had the over heating. Guess we’re spoiled by cooler weather up north. I’m hoping to get some opinions on actual usage of the product. I was thinking of a simple cup holder too. That’s one of the reasons for the new modular I got.

SeaSteve
06-14-2021, 09:31 AM
I've seen AZ Wingrider's setup and it's pretty good.

I'm from Texas and accustomed to hot weather. I didn't need that much of a container and DIDN'T want a "Big Gulp" hanging on my handlebars. I mounted a bike water bottle cage on a piece of metal and bolted it to the right side passenger peg location.

If you do something like this make sure you get a water bottle, or whatever, with a straw so you don't have to lean your head back to drink.

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Lastly, on longer trips, I carry one or two 32oz Nalgene bottles somewhere in a bag.

valkmc
06-14-2021, 07:40 PM
I just like a bottle of water or Gatorade so I use a mountian bike cup holder, It holds a 16-20 oz water or Gatorade bottle securely. It doesn't take up much space and I have been using them since my Valk days.

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Just got the same bolt that holds the brake reservoir in a little longer length and found a spacer that makes the holder stand straight up instead of leaning forward. Have used them for many years through many states.

stevenolts
06-15-2021, 12:09 PM
I use the Ram Butler cup holder mounted on handlebars with a yeti / contigo cup cup filled with ice / add water as needed
I use on my kayak on the bay here in Destin, FL fishing 6 hours in sun. 2 yeti cups filled with ice and a few 1/4 gator aid filled with water.

No beer or soda in the heat

Stevenolts I just rode 15 hours from St Louis to Destin Fl 2 weeks ago / I almost froze to death the first half / the second half it was hot as hell

Draxsr
06-15-2021, 07:07 PM
I use a 3L Camelbak with ice on all my long/hot rides. It's not in the way and is easily used, even with my full faced helmet.

wjduke
06-16-2021, 08:34 AM
Thanks, I’ll look into that

Verismo
06-17-2021, 10:51 PM
I fill a regular camel back about 3/4 with water and then stick it in the freezer. Whenever I'm ready to ride I take it out and fill it the rest of the way with a little water and put it into the small little hydration backpack and wear that under my mesh jacket. Texas sun melts enough to drink and the cold on the spine does wonders in triple digit heat.

Jason

willtill
06-18-2021, 05:59 AM
Is not the maintenance (cleaning) of a camelback's bladder a little more involved though?

Verismo
06-19-2021, 01:42 PM
Is not the maintenance (cleaning) of a camelback's bladder a little more involved though?

It's not too bad, Willtill. They have a really big screw-on cap that makes it easy to spray inside if you need to. And then you can just fill it up with water and a little baking soda and lemon juice and let it sit for 20 minutes. Run the same the solution through the hose, and then hang both to dry.

Jason

blackmetoc
06-28-2021, 04:58 PM
Yeah, I just use a Camelback. It does not heat up that much if you are drinking as you should be. I am at the age now where my bladder does not out last my gas tank. Fill and empty often!

thunder217
06-29-2021, 11:32 PM
Just did trip from MD to Florida and back. the Camel back was a savior. I love it. It was 97 degrees returning and the camel back kept me alive and all I had to do was to make sure I kept ice in it at every gas stop.

willtill
06-30-2021, 09:43 AM
Yeah, I just use a Camelback. It does not heat up that much if you are drinking as you should be. I am at the age now where my bladder does not out last my gas tank. Fill and empty often!

I've frequently said eff it and just whip it out under a overpass. Quicker to do that than wait on a rest stop to appear or lose time at a gas stop if I didn't need gas but gotta go...

wjduke
06-30-2021, 11:10 AM
After all this, I’ve decided to order a cup holder. I feel like I’ll get a lot more use from it than a camelback type thing. I wasn’t too keen on something on my back for a long time either. I’ll just have to keep buying drinks in the way at gas stops and hope it works out. I ordered the Ram mount one from Wingstuff. Saw some decent reviews, one bad one, but I’m not aggressive and I think it’ll work out. Thanks for all the input, and I’m actually enjoying the aftermath chat more lol.

Draxsr
06-30-2021, 02:51 PM
Is not the maintenance (cleaning) of a camelback's bladder a little more involved though?

Truth be told, other than rinsing them out with warm, soapy water now and again, I've never bothered in about 30 years of using them. There are a few rules with mine, however. 1 - Nothing but water. 2 - Never freeze the water in the bladder (seems to make the insides all nasty). 3 - Drain and air out after each use.

gadgeteer
07-01-2021, 06:14 AM
Found this on another Goldwing forum. Looks interesting.
https://www.gl1800riders.com/threads/moto-jug.470067/

SeaSteve
07-01-2021, 09:12 AM
I also saw that Moto-Jug also on another forum. I'm still sticking with my self made cup holder on the right side passenger peg mount. I've recently found a 32oz Owala Free Sip insulated water bottle (https://owalalife.com/products/freesip?variant=35724555714719) that works perfectly and is easy to clean. After 32oz it's time to stop.

Make sure any CUP that goes in your cup holder has a straw inside so you don't have to block your vision by lifting it in front of your eyes.

K2157
07-01-2021, 06:05 PM
I just brought me a Moto-Jug
Cause its the best I've seen
And it has a great mounting system and Fluid pipe/hose

link: https://www.motojug.com/shop/p/stainlessstealmotojug

adventurous1
07-01-2021, 11:43 PM
On this trip I’m taking it’s going to be the middle of the summer. Last year at the same time, I did a similar trip south. Did the BRP and the Skyline Drive in full. Anyway, it hit the upper 90’s on the way down, especially when I hit 81. When I got to my hotel in Front Royal, my vision was fading and I think I had a touch of heat stroke. What’s the general opinion out here on an item like this? What size also? They’re not expensive, but I don’t want to be bogged down like a backpack either. Thanks for any input.

Might think about going w/ a simple camelback. BTW - a few years ago, got a late start on a long trip - later that day, got hit w/ 115 degrees going thru the desert. No relief even in the few rest areas. BOOM ! Heat Stroke - was a nauseating mess for 2 days. Food tasted like cardboard.

wjduke
07-02-2021, 09:43 AM
I can stop a lot more on this trip. Last year I had a time schedule and a hotel reserved that first night. This time, I’m taking two days to get to Charlotte, and I’ll stop where I stop for the night. I’m planning on a lot more breaks. When I got to the hotel last year, my vision was shrinking and I felt nauseous too. Nearly 100 southern humid degrees.

willtill
07-02-2021, 08:32 PM
Might think about going w/ a simple camelback. BTW - a few years ago, got a late start on a long trip - later that day, got hit w/ 115 degrees going thru the desert. No relief even in the few rest areas. BOOM ! Heat Stroke - was a nauseating mess for 2 days. Food tasted like cardboard.


I can stop a lot more on this trip. Last year I had a time schedule and a hotel reserved that first night. This time, I’m taking two days to get to Charlotte, and I’ll stop where I stop for the night. I’m planning on a lot more breaks. When I got to the hotel last year, my vision was shrinking and I felt nauseous too. Nearly 100 southern humid degrees.

You gotta cool down your core temperature in your brain, that's for sure. Cold towel around the neck, wet down with cold water repeatedly helps keep you cool. Those main blood vessels in the sides of your neck are close to the skin and a perfect conduit for heat transfer via a very cold and wet towel.

wjduke
07-03-2021, 10:31 AM
You gotta cool down your core temperature in your brain, that's for sure. Cold towel around the neck, wet down with cold water repeatedly helps keep you cool. Those main blood vessels in the sides of your neck are close to the skin and a perfect conduit for heat transfer via a very cold and wet towel.
Hope to not relive that….thanks Will