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Westernbiker
04-30-2014, 08:58 AM
Before you watch this, think about what the number one cause of death is, in the past 100 years. :icon_rolleyes: Now, watch the video! :shock:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/0sujnvIV4g4

4DI2D
04-30-2014, 10:32 AM
It's amazing how much public information exists about these statistics . .

and yet history keeps repeating itself!

The time is getting shorter and shorter.

CaptRob
04-30-2014, 02:32 PM
I think we should all turn in all of our guns the Government! I trust them! They can protect us! :yikes::yikes::yikes: Obviously a lot of folks believe that crap and don't realize the 2nd amendment is there to protect us from them!:shock: SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!:shock: Oh yeah the guns just might jump out of my safe and start shooting by themselves…wait, thats impossible.

Steve 0080
04-30-2014, 11:24 PM
Obummer’s way of reducing guns……..buy all the ammo!

Scotrod
05-01-2014, 08:28 AM
My take:

If every man, woman and child had 3 assault rifles, each with (10) 100 round clips and 10,000 rounds of ammo, the outcome of the examples in the video would not have been much different.

Why? It was the state of mind of the people, not a state of their armament, that led to and allowed, yes, allowed virtually all those examples to exist.

Many of those leaders rose to power and were welcomed with open arms by their own people. They didn't pop up overnight by some hostile take over that could have been prevented by any 'well armed private militia'.

Oh, OK, well, let's say they turned 'bad' (!?!) after they came to power and had the military in their full control,,,

As any good terrorist in the Middle East will tell ya,,, Assault rifles, multi round clips,,, they will only get you so far against an organized Military,,, They certainly won't overthrow the air support, armor, or technology that exists en masse today.

We no longer live in a world where governments are removed/formed by taking everyone to an open field, 'musket vs musket', where the last man standing 'won',,, The type of world that existed back when the 2nd amendment was written.

Today, all the assault rifles/clips/ammo in the world aren't going to overturn a government.

But, if a dozen AK's and 50,000 rounds of ammo in your 'bunker' makes ya sleep better, who am I to say you're dreaming?

Westernbiker
05-01-2014, 09:34 AM
My take:

If every man, woman and child had 3 assault rifles, each with (10) 100 round clips and 10,000 rounds of ammo, the outcome of the examples in the video would not have been much different.

Why? It was the state of mind of the people, not a state of their armament, that led to and allowed, yes, allowed virtually all those examples to exist.

Many of those leaders rose to power and were welcomed with open arms by their own people. They didn't pop up overnight by some hostile take over that could have been prevented by any 'well armed private militia'.

Oh, OK, well, let's say they turned 'bad' (!?!) after they came to power and had the military in their full control,,,

As any good terrorist in the Middle East will tell ya,,, Assault rifles, multi round clips,,, they will only get you so far against an organized Military,,, They certainly won't overthrow the air support, armor, or technology that exists en masse today.

We no longer live in a world where governments are removed/formed by taking everyone to an open field, 'musket vs musket', where the last man standing 'won',,, The type of world that existed back when the 2nd amendment was written.

Today, all the assault rifles/clips/ammo in the world aren't going to overturn a government.

But, if a dozen AK's and 50,000 rounds of ammo in your 'bunker' makes ya sleep better, who am I to say you're dreaming?


Ok, I suppose that is true for todays world but let me tell ya this. A few dozen AK47's and 50,000 rounds at my disposel, will allow me to take a few of them with me before I go and NOT just sit around unarmed and be taken without a FIGHT! :nono:

CaptRob
05-01-2014, 10:04 AM
My take:

If every man, woman and child had 3 assault rifles, each with (10) 100 round clips and 10,000 rounds of ammo, the outcome of the examples in the video would not have been much different.

Why? It was the state of mind of the people, not a state of their armament, that led to and allowed, yes, allowed virtually all those examples to exist.

Many of those leaders rose to power and were welcomed with open arms by their own people. They didn't pop up overnight by some hostile take over that could have been prevented by any 'well armed private militia'.

Oh, OK, well, let's say they turned 'bad' (!?!) after they came to power and had the military in their full control,,,

As any good terrorist in the Middle East will tell ya,,, Assault rifles, multi round clips,,, they will only get you so far against an organized Military,,, They certainly won't overthrow the air support, armor, or technology that exists en masse today.

We no longer live in a world where governments are removed/formed by taking everyone to an open field, 'musket vs musket', where the last man standing 'won',,, The type of world that existed back when the 2nd amendment was written.

Today, all the assault rifles/clips/ammo in the world aren't going to overturn a government.

But, if a dozen AK's and 50,000 rounds of ammo in your 'bunker' makes ya sleep better, who am I to say you're dreaming?


I think that that is the point, It looks like this country is welcoming Communism and Socialism to take over. As long as Obamaclause keeps handing out free gifts
to the majority we are being transformed into the very thing that Our fathers, Grandfathers and Greatgrandfathers fought and gave their lives to prevent. Losing our right to defend ourselves and our families against a Tyrannical Government is not something that should happen. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED! Yeah, They have big weapons but I believe there is a resistance within the military, they are our brothers, mothers, fathers and so on. Who knows, best to be prepared even if its just spitting in the wind. The president is just a post turtle, "You know he didn't get up there by himself, he doesn't belong up there, he doesn't know what to do while he's up there, he's elevated beyond his ability to function, and you just Wonder what kind of dumb ass put him up there to begin with."

Scotrod
05-01-2014, 12:54 PM
I have no problem w folks using guns to protect their property / loved ones. AOK in my book! Hunt, collect, have fun with 'em, pass 'em on down through the ages??? SURE THING!!! :yes:

I'm not 'anti-gun', but do I believe a few 'boundaries' are not completely out of the question.

'Protection from the government' which was a big part of why the 2nd amendment was written, is not nearly as 'applicable/effective' today as it was back when everyone was using muskets,,, both Civilians and Soldiers were on a far more equal battle ground back then than today.

Which brings another thought to bear,,, In the true spirit of 'protection from the government', as was the case back when the Constitution was written (whom so many rush to reference today) then today, shouldn't the battle ground between Soldiers and Civilians be 'a bit more equal' like it was back then? If ya got the money, you get your own missile/tank/fighter jet, nuke, etc?

Is this the 'protection from the government' our forefathers had in mind? In one sense, I do believe it is, but our forefathers had no way of knowing the 'scale/capabilities of weapons to come or the ill effects 'weapons of the future' may hold on the masses. All they knew when they penned the 2nd Amendment is what weapons were available, what they were capable of and used for at that time. "Men and Muskets" were pretty much all they had,,,

Today, the very definition of 'right to keep and bear arms' is a bit fuzzy when it comes to modern 'arms'.

IMHO, it made perfect sense back then, but it's 'purpose/definition' today is a bit 'less clear' as ~guns~ per se' are no match for the Government's/military's weapons,,, If we wanted to truly ENFORCE the meaning of the 2nd amendment that so many clamor to today as 'Our Constitutional Right!', we really need something more than just guns,,, Something folks could use to neutralize the military,,,

That's a bit more exciting, now isn't it! :icon_twisted:

Interesting subject when ya think about it that way,,,

In other thoughts,,

On the 'state of the country' issues, yes, I agree, lotsa folks with their hands out sayin 'gimme'.

IMHO, about the only thing that might (eventually) turn that around is the immense suffering and loss that occurs during war.

Just hoping I'm not here that day,,, :icon_wink:

Steve 0080
05-02-2014, 08:43 AM
Scottrod…That is a well thought out response and makes one think. I agree on all points. 1. I believe arming the people would have little effect against our military but a profound effect against or a deterrent against an invasion from another country. The concept of our military now is to take the fight to them, as opposed to fighting here! 2. Handouts and the kind of people living off Uncle Sugar will come to an end when there is a revolt within the country by the people who pay so others can sit on the porch. One way to help this would be if you do not own property you don’t get to vote!. It is a matter of contradiction. As is the current desire of some to raise the minimum wage to $10 per hour. While that sounds really nice…… right up to the point where you pay $7.00 for a Big Mac! Not sure where this country is heading…looks like socialism to me but time will tell. In the mean time do not say anything in your home or in private where someone may tape it and use the tape to strip you of all your possessions! Before anyone gets the panties wadded up, my point is THIS IS AMERICA! and to a point you should be able to hold any opinion no matter who it offends!