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taxfree4
06-08-2015, 01:25 PM
This day in 1845 we lost, IMHO, the greatest president the nation ever had, Andrew Jackson. He saved the Republic in the Battle of New Orleans. If the British won and gained control at the river basin in LA. they would have shut down all supplies that traveled the Mississippi which would crippled this country. He rejected renewing the charter for the Second National Bank, Rothschild's central bank. And they want to replace his picture with a picture of a woman on the $20 bill, Put it on a box of Ivory Snow where it belongs.

BACA
06-08-2015, 01:57 PM
...but I would have to disagree!!

http://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/andrew-jackson/videos/jackson-cherokees-tariffs-and-nullification

oldguy2
06-08-2015, 02:01 PM
Good find Tax Free; any president that was despised by the elitists and central bankers; loved by the working classes and that actually fought his own battles to death if needed is worth remembering and emulating.

BIGLRY
06-08-2015, 03:03 PM
...but I would have to disagree!!

http://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/andrew-jackson/videos/jackson-cherokees-tariffs-and-nullificationYea, I can assure you the Native Americans have no love for Andrew Jackson due to his Indian Removal Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Removal_Act
and the Trail of Tears.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears

I personally feel there have been much better presidents than "OLD HICKORY" like Warren Harding :yikes: Now hold on I know some are doing a double take on this statement and most won't agree, http://www.usnews.com/news/special-reports/the-worst-presidents/articles/2014/12/17/worst-presidents-warren-harding-1921-1923
but hear me out.
Ya got to love Warren G. Harding, one of his claims to infamy rests on spectacular ineptitude captured in his own pathetic words: "I am not fit for this office and should never have been here." Ya got to love a man who is honest!
Once in the White House, the 29th president busied himself with golf, poker, and his mistress now that's my kind of guy. Hell, to be fair he was so reassuringly vague in his campaign declarations that he was understood to support both the foes and the backers of U.S. entry into the League of Nations, the hottest issue of the day.
"I have no trouble with my enemies," Harding once said, adding that it was his friends who "keep me walking the floor nights." Stress no doubt contributed to his death in office, probably from a stroke. :yes:


:lolup: all told with tongue in cheek

taxfree4
06-08-2015, 03:05 PM
...but I would have to disagree!!

http://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/andrew-jackson/videos/jackson-cherokees-tariffs-and-nullification

No one is without blood on their hands:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Mims_massacre

I was only commenting on the day in regards to US History. We could go back and forth all day about who was the bloodiest but that would be senseless. That is why I stated IMHO, In My Humble Opinion. The British were so sure they would take New Orleans the troops had a governor already picked, Lieutenant-General Pakenham. Had they succeeded you or I would never be where we are today. Jackson took militiamen and won the Battle and saved the Republic and I would be hard pressed for any credible historian to argue that point.

BIGLRY
06-08-2015, 03:12 PM
No one is without blood on their hands:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Mims_massacre

I was only commenting on the day in regards to US History. We could go back and forth all day about who was the bloodiest but that would be senseless. That is why I stated IMHO, In My Humble Opinion. The British were so sure they would take New Orleans the troops had a governor already picked, Lieutenant-General Pakenham. Had they succeeded you or I would never have been where we are today. Jackson took militiamen and won the Battle and saved the Republic and I would be hard pressed for any credible historian to argue that point.Very true my friend, hell he even owned slaves on a plantation as did many of the first leaders of this country.

taxfree4
06-08-2015, 03:25 PM
Very true my friend, hell he even owned slaves on a plantation as did many of the first leaders of this country.

The governor of Maine had 63 slaves before, during and after the Civil War so if it was abolish slavery, which it wasn't, all they had to do was start at the top. But that's a whole different thread. In regards to Jackson and the Battle, Lord Castlereagh, the British foreign secretary, regarding once New Orleans was captured and the British commanded the waters "the Americans would be little better than prisoners in their own country.".

flat6bagger
06-08-2015, 03:29 PM
I can not say he was better than any other.
I was not born then,so anything I would base my opinion on,would be on how I interpret what someone from back then had for an opinion of him.

Doug