How of you guys have made the key knobs

[Greg O]

How many of you guys made the key knobs. If you have how many did you make. Do you like them and how are they holding up. I am thinking of making 3 of them, one for each key hole. Whats you opinion.

[Fla_rider]

I made two, but could have gotten away with just one. Using the radio knob- it doesn't fit the Saddlebags opening so scratch that if your using the radio knob. As far as the cubby and gas tank you really only need one in the cubby and you can grab it to unlock the gas then return it to the cubby slot.

Recently, I've lost them so I'm going to make more. Put them in a pocket somewhere on the Ct trip?

[CheesyRider]

I made two using the radio knobs and HD103 blanks from Ace Hardware. One for the cubby and one for the saddlebags. The shaft had to be left a little longer for the saddlebag key in order to have enough clearance. I used some construction adhesive I happened to have laying around and both keys are holding up fine.
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[fxdl2051]

How many of you guys made the key knobs. If you have how many did you make. Do you like them and how are they holding up. I am thinking of making 3 of them, one for each key hole. Whats you opinion.

Working great, have the stock radio control knob with a cut down key copy for the cubby and one for the saddlebags that is a Radio Shack radio knob that works very well, being small enough to fit the recessed cut out. Just used a cutting wheel and grinder from my dremel to trim the shaft down enough to make it fit into the knob. Then epoxied, around it, super solid. Radio shack has a number of different style knobs you can use, nice thing about them is a little hex screw that will tighten up against the key's shaft. Since you will cut these shorter for a flush fit they will be shorter in length than the ignition key,so there is no danger of anyone trying to start the bike with one. Makes using the cubby very easy to do while riding.

[98valk]

I have all three (cubby, gas lid & bags), and really like them. What a nuisance it would be without them. I get into the cubby and the bags way too often to mess with a key every time.

I lock them all up if I am concerned when I park. Most of the time I don't bother. But, I do have an alarm with a pager and a proximity sensor for piece of mind.

I also had one more key made that I ground off the plastic so that it is flat. I carry that in my wallet on trips - just in case .....

[ths61]

I am surprised some vendor hasn't started selling these pre-made blanks. I am more surprised that Honda does not uniquely key their locks.


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[GNW]

Made one for the glove box and one for the saddle bags. I still use the ignition key for gas compartment.32043205

[Old Ryder]

I did the radio knobs for the box and tank. For the bags I came up with this for leverage.

http://hondaf6b.com/showthread.php?5624-Bag-lock-finally-got-something-to-work!

[nvmyf6]

I also made two key knobs, one for the fuel tank lid and the other for the glove box. They are working great, and I would do it again :biggthumpup:

[sabre85]

Made two, one for the front with a radio knob, and one for the bags with a knob from autozone that had a longer shaft for leverage. Used gorilla glue to mount and has worked just fine so far. If you use a super-glue type product be careful with the amount you use, some of them will expand a little on curing and may ooze over the edges of the knob, I had to redo the radio knob for the front because of this. Let them cure for longer than you think necessary, at least 48 hrs because they will run a little even if they look like they are done. Thought mine was done on the radio knob, put it in the cubby lock and it ran down the face of the panel and left a little "experience scar."

Usually just leave them in but when i am worried bout security just lock them up in the cubby or the bags. Would highly recommend them, if I were to loose or break would make another immediately.

[Phaedrus]

I made a knob for the cubby lock with a stock knob, a Honda key purchased at radio shack and 24-hour two-part epoxy I already had for making model boats. I bought two knobs and keys to have spares for the inevitable screwup, but I got it perfect the first time. Very sturdy. I love having it. Makes getting into the cubby fast and easy. I wouldn't have the patience to use the ignition key every time.

[Tundra]

I made one for my '98 Valkyrie...which will help fund the purchase of an F6B
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[ddoug]

Two years ago ; made two with radio knobs and JB weld. A must have.

[valkmc]

Made 2, one for the cubby and one for the bags. Got the knobs from radio shack and key blanks from Loews. Keys work great and I like that they won't start the bike.

[flat6bagger]

I have Honda knobs JB welded to AXXIS plus 27R key from Home Depot.
One went to cubby lock and the other to the saddlebag locks.
I also used the same key JB welded with a chrome license plate bolt cover.
I use that for the gas door.
I remove the cubby key when going in somewhere as I keep my gun in there.

[Ericb445]

I have made many over the past 15 years for all my motorcycles.. they have all held up just fine as of this day.
I have always used the two part JB weld.

[radi0chik]

got 2 keys made, only made 1 knob. Have it for saddlebags. Don't really use the cubby enough to mess with it. After a few months of using my ignition key every day to open my saddlebag and get my purse out, this is MUCH easier. :)

[Greg O]

Does the JB Weld work better than the monkey glue, also which one of the JB products are you using. My radio knobs should be here today.

[flat6bagger]

Greg,
JB Weld is the only way to go in my opinion.
It has never failed me.
The trick to JB Weld is to read the fine print.
Although in big letters it may say "dries in 6 minutes" or whatever,look at the fine print.
It says,let set for 24 hours before use or something like that.
I don't have a tube near me for the exact wording.
My point?
Let it set for the full 24 hours for best results whatever the label says on the front.

Doug

[Greg O]

Greg,
JB Weld is the only way to go in my opinion.
It has never failed me.
The trick to JB Weld is to read the fine print.
Although in big letters it may say "dries in 6 minutes" or whatever,look at the fine print.
It says,let set for 24 hours before use or something like that.
I don't have a tube near me for the exact wording.
My point?
Let it set for the full 24 hours for best results whatever the label says on the front.

Doug

Cool Doug, Did you use JB Weld for plastic or just the general purpose.

[flat6bagger]

Plastic
I will have them with me when we meet up Saturday Greg.
You can then see how I did it if you can wait until then.

Doug

[Ericb445]

Does the JB Weld work better than the monkey glue, also which one of the JB products are you using. My radio knobs should be here today.

I can't stand gorilla glue
This is what I have always used

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[Old Ryder]

From my 20 years of building and flying model RC planes, I got quite an education in glue, wood, small engines and batteries. Gorilla glue should have a wet surface to work properly and it will expand during the curing process and if it spills over it is very hard to remove. JB Weld is great for this type project as is other general epoxys you can get at the hardware store. You can also get a firmer putty type epoxy that both parts are made together and you just break it apart or pinch off a portion and roll it around in your hands until it mixes. Then stuff it in the hole and press the key part in. Much less messy. That is what I used for the cubby and tank key knobs. I used JB for the saddlebag since the cabinet knob was metal.

[Greg O]

I made 2 key knobs using JB Weld as Flat6bagger Doug suggested one came out about a 1/16" to long which I can deal with. The 2nd one came out a 1/16" to short that will not work in the key slot. With me using JB Weld I was able to use my Dremel and a small straight bit and ground a slot on each side of the key to loosen the key in the epoxy. I then pulled the key up a 1/16" and re epoxied it and it is solid as hell and I didn't waste a knob. Thanks Doug.

[Phaedrus]

I just reread my note above, and I must have suffered a brain fart while typing (an all too frequent occurrence as I get older). I wrote that I bought my keys at Radio Shack. Not true. I got them at Home Depot. I dunno where that Radio Shack popped out from, but it definitely was incorrect. Sorry.

[wiggy]

I just reread my note above, and I must have suffered a brain fart while typing (an all too frequent occurrence as I get older). I wrote that I bought my keys at Radio Shack. Not true. I got them at Home Depot. I dunno where that Radio Shack popped out from, but it definitely was incorrect. Sorry.

Maybe you were thinking of the fact that many of us have bought Radio Shack knobs. I used 2 that were about an inch in dia and one smaller one for the bag release.

[Steve 0080]

From my 20 years of building and flying model RC planes, I got quite an education in glue, wood, small engines and batteries. Gorilla glue should have a wet surface to work properly and it will expand during the curing process and if it spills over it is very hard to remove. JB Weld is great for this type project as is other general epoxys you can get at the hardware store. You can also get a firmer putty type epoxy that both parts are made together and you just break it apart or pinch off a portion and roll it around in your hands until it mixes. Then stuff it in the hole and press the key part in. Much less messy. That is what I used for the cubby and tank key knobs. I used JB for the saddlebag since the cabinet knob was metal.



Yes! I used it a couple of times before I read the direction...a little drop will do ya!!!!!

[buckeyeken47]

I know I'm a little slow on the uptake but... Let's say you are out for a ride and stop - say at a restaurant. Couldn't someone remove one of your key knobs and use it in the ignition and simply ride off with your bike??

[BIGLRY]

I know I'm a little slow on the uptake but... Let's say you are out for a ride and stop - say at a restaurant. Couldn't someone remove one of your key knobs and use it in the ignition and simply ride off with your bike??not if ya do it right as the ign key is a tad longer so the home made trunk key won't work in the ign.:icon_biggrin:

[stroguy]

I know I'm a little slow on the uptake but... Let's say you are out for a ride and stop - say at a restaurant. Couldn't someone remove one of your key knobs and use it in the ignition and simply ride off with your bike??

I have reservations for you at the Holiday Inn Express down the street from BIGLRY.

[Spewey Griffin]

For the Aussies out there...I visited my local Locksmith and he cut a spare key which opens the Cubby and Fuel Cap (not the rear Trunk when I installed the radio knob.....must need it a tad longer). He used a Toyota blank. $6 for the key all up, and a black radio knob from Jaycar for about $1. The only tricky bit, which isn't all that tricky is cutting the key down with a Dremmel with the key in a vice to remove the fat end to fit into the knob which has got a small screw to hold it in place and I filled it with glue on top of that.

He cut the key to replicate the original and it won't start the bike because there's no CHIP in the Toyota blank. On that note, he did say that he can copy the Chip with a machine he's got if I ever need another ignition key.

It sits in the Cubby slot....as I think it looks a bit dorky sitting in the Fuel cap.

[BIGLRY]

For the Aussies out there...I visited my local Locksmith and he cut a spare key which opens the Cubby and Fuel Cap (not the rear Trunk when I installed the radio knob.....must need it a tad longer). He used a Toyota blank. $6 for the key all up, and a black radio knob from Jaycar for about $1. The only tricky bit, which isn't all that tricky is cutting the key down with a Dremmel with the key in a vice to remove the fat end to fit into the knob which has got a small screw to hold it in place and I filled it with glue on top of that.

He cut the key to replicate the original and it won't start the bike because there's no CHIP in the Toyota blank. On that note, he did say that he can copy the Chip with a machine he's got if I ever need another ignition key.

It sits in the Cubby slot....as I think it looks a bit dorky sitting in the Fuel cap.:shock:Your F6B has a chipped key???????????????? I like to see that. I have ones in my Runes H.I.S.S. it's an acronym for "Honda Ignition Security System" and the name of Honda's immobilizer system for theft prevention, but not for my 2013 F6B USA model.

[Steve 0080]

Only the Rune !!!!!!! And a good thing... $1700 for a new set of keys !!!!!

[Fla_rider]

When will have FOBs for our F6B's?

[BIGLRY]

Only the Rune !!!!!!! And a good thing... $1700 for a new set of keys !!!!!Not true, but yes, and why I have three keys for each Rune and the programing harness to do my own coding, I ain't going to buy a new ECU cause of lost keys. There are several makes of Hondas with HISS, and with the HISS 2.
What sets HISS 2 apart from its predecessor - the original HISS system - is a secure bracket which holds the Electronic Control Unit (ECU) in place, making its removal almost impossible. The new system was developed by Honda in conjunction with vehicle alarm specialist, Datatool system and is found in the UK & European models only as far as I know, but I could be wrong about that(Australia???).

[H.I.S.S. Equipped Models]
300cc:SH300, NSS300,
400cc:CB400, FJS400D/A, VT400S, VT400C,
500cc:CB500F, CBR500R,
600cc:CB600F, CBR600F, CBR600RR, FJS600A, CBF600S/N, CBR650F,
700cc:NC700X, NC700V, NSA700, XL700V, CTX700N, CTX700NA CTX700ND, CTX700A, CTX700D,
750cc:NC750D, NC750SD, NC750SA, NC750PA, NC750S, NC750X, NC750, VT750S, VT750C, VT750C2,
800cc:VFR800, VFR800X, VFR800F,
1000cc:CB1000R, CBF1000, CBF1000F, CBR1000RR, XL1000V,
1100cc:CB1100,
1200cc:VFR1200F, VFR1200X,
1300cc:CB1300, ST1300A, VT1300C, CTX1300,

1800cc:GL1800, GL1800B, GL1800C*
Production models as of Mar. 4, 2014
*Models may vary depending on regional specifications.
*The H.I.S.S.-equipped models listed above are included for reference purposes only. H.I.S.S. and model availability may differ depending on region and country.



HISS 2 Warning Light on CBR600RR Dash
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:icon_rolleyes:Ya got to love that 15K red line:icon_lol:

[Spewey Griffin]

:shock:Your F6B has a chipped key???????????????? I like to see that. I have ones in my Runes H.I.S.S. it's an acronym for "Honda Ignition Security System" and the name of Honda's immobilizer system for theft prevention, but not for my 2013 F6B USA model.


Hey BIGLRY. I wasn't even aware that there was a CHIP until I took the bike to a Locksmith and he tested the OEM key (after he asked me and I said I don't have a clue :-) . I always assumed there was a Security System simply because of the HISS sticker on the 'tank'.

I think all Aussie F6B's came with the HISS and ABS and lost a couple of other thinks e.g. Driving Light harness and maybe a couple of other things I haven't found yet. My bike is a 2014 'Standard'.

As I mentioned, the Locksmith did say he could create a Key with CHIP by copying my original key in some new fangled machine he's got on his bench that reads the data. I'm assuming it wouldn't cost a lot, this guy does work out of a shed.

[BIGLRY]

Hey BIGLRY. I wasn't even aware that there was a CHIP until I took the bike to a Locksmith and he tested the OEM key (after he asked me and I said I don't have a clue :-) . I always assumed there was a Security System simply because of the HISS sticker on the 'tank'.

I think all Aussie F6B's came with the HISS and ABS and lost a couple of other thinks e.g. Driving Light harness and maybe a couple of other things I haven't found yet. My bike is a 2014 'Standard'.

As I mentioned, the Locksmith did say he could create a Key with CHIP by copying my original key in some new fangled machine he's got on his bench that reads the data. I'm assuming it wouldn't cost a lot, this guy does work out of a shed. I have serious doubt he can do it that way as the system uses a contact communications method similar to IC cards, its operation has no effect on battery life. However, the engine cannot be started if the vehicle's battery is completely discharged
Good info on the HISS system on Down Under bikes, As long as you have one old HISS chip key it is easy to make a new one and program it with a simple wiring harness no "new fangled machine" is needed, I've done several as many Rune owners have.
The issue is if you don't have the OEM HISS key there is no way anyone can make a new one including Honda, but by buying a new ECU and matching key. I assume you have two keys now from Honda and would recommend having another one made and programed then put in a very safe place.

[Dirtstiff's F6B]

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Ace Hardware blanks (none of which will start the bike) Honda radio and Ace knobs, embedded in JB Weld.

[Greg O]

I also used Ace Hardware blanks and JB Weld and they work great and won't start the bike.

[Spewey Griffin]

I have serious doubt he can do it that way as the system uses a contact communications method similar to IC cards, its operation has no effect on battery life. However, the engine cannot be started if the vehicle's battery is completely discharged
Good info on the HISS system on Down Under bikes, As long as you have one old HISS chip key it is easy to make a new one and program it with a simple wiring harness no "new fangled machine" is needed, I've done several as many Rune owners have.
The issue is if you don't have the OEM HISS key there is no way anyone can make a new one including Honda, but by buying a new ECU and matching key. I assume you have two keys now from Honda and would recommend having another one made and programed then put in a very safe place.

Thanks again BIGLRY. I'll test him out over the next couple of days to see if he can copy a Honda ignition key with HISS. When I was in his shop getting the Cubby blank cut it was him that brought up the "I can copy that Chip key" comment, so I'll give him a run and if successful I will store that key away somewhere safe (most likely never to be found again on past performances :icon_frown: )

[BIGLRY]

Thanks again BIGLRY. I'll test him out over the next couple of days to see if he can copy a Honda ignition key with HISS. When I was in his shop getting the Cubby blank cut it was him that brought up the "I can copy that Chip key" comment, so I'll give him a run and if successful I will store that key away somewhere safe (most likely never to be found again on past performances :icon_frown: )You can buy the chipped key blank and cut it to turn the lock, but I'm perrty sure without hooking up the programing/test harness he can not program it as you are programing the ECU to the key not the key to the ECU and on the Rune you are allowed to program up to four keys only. Here is the harness for the Rune it connects to a special connector and I suspect it is the same on all model Hondas with the HISS system. http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/honda/HP-07AMZ-MECA100.html If you were closer I'd let you borrow mine.:icon_lol:

[Spewey Griffin]

You can buy the chipped key blank and cut it to turn the lock, but I'm perrty sure without hooking up the programing/test harness he can not program it as you are programing the ECU to the key not the key to the ECU and on the Rune you are allowed to program up to four keys only. Here is the harness for the Rune it connects to a special connector and I suspect it is the same on all model Hondas with the HISS system. http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/honda/HP-07AMZ-MECA100.html If you were closer I'd let you borrow mine.:icon_lol:

Ta for that BIGLRY. Drop on over and I'll loan you my bike for a look around. Just remember to stick to the left.....could be messy otherwise.:icon_rolleyes:

Good news....no Deer. Bad news....Kangaroos.:icon_lol:

[BIGLRY]

Ta for that BIGLRY. Drop on over and I'll loan you my bike for a look around. Just remember to stick to the left.....could be messy otherwise.:icon_rolleyes:

Good news....no Deer. Bad news....Kangaroos.:icon_lol:Left, right, hell I even ride down the center.:icon_lol:
Funny you should mention the Roo as I was at our county fair last weekend and there was a guy selling jerked & smoked Kangaroo meat, he was giving out free samples of several different flavors and I tried them all the Jamaican jerk was my fav, but at $20 for 3 OZ it was just to pricey for my wallet.
I do have a "ride around" instead of a "walk about" for parts of Australia on my Bucket list and hope to do it soon, also want to SCUBA dive on the Great Barrier Reef.
I was in Australia in 1969 for six days on R&R while in the US Army, don't remember a damn thing other that you Ozzies bloody well know how to drink.:tequila: and you have some mighty fine looking women.:clap2: always wanted to go back and see more on a:motorcycle2:

[Spewey Griffin]

Left, right, hell I even ride down the center.:icon_lol:
Funny you should mention the Roo as I was at our county fair last weekend and there was a guy selling jerked & smoked Kangaroo meat, he was giving out free samples of several different flavors and I tried them all the Jamaican jerk was my fav, but at $20 for 3 OZ it was just to pricey for my wallet.
I do have a "ride around" instead of a "walk about" for parts of Australia on my Bucket list and hope to do it soon, also want to SCUBA dive on the Great Barrier Reef.
I was in Australia in 1969 for six days on R&R while in the US Army, don't remember a damn thing other that you Ozzies bloody well know how to drink.:tequila: and you have some mighty fine looking women.:clap2: always wanted to go back and see more on a:motorcycle2:

The price is probably a good thing BIGLRY. New 'research' has found Roo meat may contribute to heart attack, stroke and cardio vac disease although the research may be like beer and chocolate (not together) research which has it as being good or bad depending on which week you pick up the newspaper.

If you come over and do the 'Lap' there'll be plenty sitting on the road drying in the sun. You'll just have to be quick....we are the only Nation that eats the animal on our Coat of Arms."fireybat"

[BIGLRY]

The price is probably a good thing BIGLRY. New 'research' has found Roo meat may contribute to heart attack, stroke and cardio vac disease although the research may be like beer and chocolate (not together) research which has it as being good or bad depending on which week you pick up the newspaper.

If you come over and do the 'Lap' there'll be plenty sitting on the road drying in the sun. You'll just have to be quick....we are the only Nation that eats the animal on our Coat of Arms."fireybat"Hehe most everything I like to eat "may contribute to heart attack, stroke and cardio vac disease although the research may be like beer and chocolate (not together) research which has it as being good or bad depending on which week you pick up the newspaper", but it ain't killed me yet. :icon_twisted:

[lloydmoore1]

So I made 2 keys for the cubby and saddle bags. For the sadle bags I used the end cap off a memory stick..worked great. Used the JB weld and it went really relatively easy.
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[F6bisnext]

I did it, am NOT handy by any stretch of the imagination. I went to HDepot and got keys made. They did NOT work the ignition, so perfect for the saddlebags. I bought a black nob, cut the key down to the right height with a dremel and JB welded it in.....Viola!!! Perfect!

[Wing'n it]

Got mine done last week, used the Honda radio knobs for the fuel door and the glove box lid. This is an awesome upgrade and I love them!!

[grendl]

I think I saw in big Larry's post that the chipped keys for the F6Bs were made in 2014?
I had extras made at Ace Hardware and they do start my 2013.

[BIGLRY]

I think I saw in big Larry's post that the chipped keys for the F6Bs were made in 2014?
I had extras made at Ace Hardware and they do start my 2013.
I believe that is for the Australian and European models only.

[F6wannaB]

Always great info to be had here!! Thanks to all - A mod I need and can do

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