Installing Kisan Headlight Modulators

[willtill]

What to do on a rainy Saturday? :icon_frown: Install something on the bike! :icon_wink:

Getting ready to install a pair of Kisan Headlight modulators on my F6B. I do not understand what all the trepidation is/was; reportedly for trying to access the back of the high beams. Seems to be a snap... compared to my past Victory Vision :shock:

Here is the left side high beam bulb connection after removing the cubby....

http://i57.tinypic.com/28mikwn.jpg

Here is the right side high beam bulb connection after removing the panel over the cruise control module. The cruise control module (the big silver thing) still needs to be unbolted and moved out of the way; so I can get my hand in there... not hard to do:

http://i62.tinypic.com/wlb2f9.jpg

These are the Kisan Modulators (....pardon the crappy pic; this Nikon Coolpix camera has a mind of it's own sometimes). You simply remove the bike's headlight bulb connector lead; plug the Kisan modulator unit onto the H7 bulb adapter; and then plug the bike's headlight bulb connector lead back onto the Kisan unit.

http://i62.tinypic.com/zuqbeu.jpg

A slave cable connects both Kisan Modulators together (one of the Modulators is a master and the other one is a slave); so they modulate in unison. Also there is a ambient light sensor that you would route up from the master Kisan Modulator; to control the modulation (turns it off at dusk and dawn).

If you don't want these suckers to modulate during the day; you simply just turn the high beams off.

These should be standard safety equipment on all motorcycles. I run them on almost every motorcycle I have ever had or owned.

:yes: :yes:

[Steve 0080]

Yup, easy mod !!! and I agree!!!

[taxfree4]

The mod is easy but if you have a larger/wider hand to get in there it is a bear.

[Deer Slayer]

Please be careful in deer country. Deer will freeze and stare at modulated head lamps. Just like people.:cheers:

[willtill]

The mod is easy but if you have a larger/wider hand to get in there it is a bear.

Yup. Agree. But if you have long reach needle nose pliers (these are from Harbor Freight) it makes grabbing and reinstalling the headlamp leads like child's play... :yes:

http://i59.tinypic.com/ekp1kh.jpg


Please be careful in deer country. Deer will freeze and stare at modulated head lamps. Just like people.:cheers:

Yup. Noted. Deer are an omnipresent hazard up here in Maryland.

[taxfree4]

Yup. Agree. But if you have long reach needle nose pliers (these are from Harbor Freight) it makes grabbing and reinstalling the headlamp leads like child's play... :yes:

Now you tell me. The added benefit of these is travelling in the left lane cars do seem to pull to the middle lane when you come up behind them.

http://i59.tinypic.com/ekp1kh.jpg



Yup. Noted. Deer are an omnipresent hazard up here in Maryland.


Now you tell me. The added benefit of these is travelling in the left lane cars do seem to pull to the middle lane when you come up behind them

[willtill]

Now you tell me. The added benefit of these is travelling in the left lane cars do seem to pull to the middle lane when you come up behind them

That is correct. It does happen. Which is a good thing. :yes:

Today I had two cagers pull over in front of me and stop; thinking I was a LEO. :shock: Cracks me up. :icon_lol: There's no blue and red flashing lights; only modulating white lights.

I just look at them when I pass by... :icon_wink:

These high beams are DEFINITELY more noticeable on the F6B; compared to other bikes I have had. I am especially conscious now to turn the modulation off when I am sitting at a red light; or stuck in traffic and I am behind a car.

[Britman]

Please be careful in deer country. Deer will freeze and stare at modulated head lamps. Just like people.:cheers:


Deer not moving.

And that's a bad thing?

Don't target fixate on them and it's all good?

[fxdl2051]

That is correct. It does happen. Which is a good thing. :yes:

Today I had two cagers pull over in front of me and stop; thinking I was a LEO. :shock: Cracks me up. :icon_lol: There's no blue and red flashing lights; only modulating white lights...




Yup they've done that to me to, one blonde stopped dead in the middle of a narrow country road thinking I was a motor cop. Right, a cop wearing a leather vest and black t shirt?

[willtill]

For a fellow board member who was asking; this is where I mounted the Modulator's ambient light sensor:

http://i66.tinypic.com/2jbjrlv.jpg

[pilotguy299]

For a fellow board member who was asking; this is where I mounted the Modulator's ambient light sensor:

http://i66.tinypic.com/2jbjrlv.jpg

Will,

do you know if the modulator will work properly with LED headlights?

[Felloverboard]

I have used the Kisan mod on 3 bikes now. I mounted the light sensor same place as in the pic and used the long needle nose to assist install as in the pic. Traveled through many staes and never stopped. Had a few cops give me the thumbs up thinking I was another LEO and many pulled over cars or slowed out of my way. A few individuals in cars have hollered how irritating my lights are.... I thank them for noticing and not pulling in front of me. I think all bikes sold should have these. People are always taking a double look when I am coming and they are starting to pull out from somewhere. In the Orlando, FL area where many tourist and Yankees are always visiting and gawking not knowing where they are it is even more important as they are looking for street signs and billboards.

[wjduke]

You had to throw "yankees" in there.....lol

[Felloverboard]

You had to throw "yankees" in there.....lol

Send more tourists.... The gators are hungry.

[wjduke]

I always liked Texas better than Florida...they like us in TX!

[willtill]

Will,

do you know if the modulator will work properly with LED headlights?

The specific modulator that I have installed from Kisan will not work with LEDS. However...

...Kisan does make a headlight modulator for LEDS. There is a drop down field in the below page where you can select the "LED version"

https://kisantech.com/mag/pfin/p115w-d.html

[Brewdog]

The specific modulator that I have installed from Kisan will not work with LEDS. However...

...Kisan does make a headlight modulator for LEDS. There is a drop down field in the below page where you can select the "LED version"

https://kisantech.com/mag/pfin/p115w-d.html


willtill,
Nice job on the write up and pics! I'm inspired to purchase a set of these after seeing your post.

[slather1]

Forty five years of riding and I have never tried the modulators. Not sure why? There is nothing that makes a bike stand out like these do!

[pilotguy299]

The specific modulator that I have installed from Kisan will not work with LEDS. However...

...Kisan does make a headlight modulator for LEDS. There is a drop down field in the below page where you can select the "LED version"

https://kisantech.com/mag/pfin/p115w-d.html

That's great. Thank you for the link! :)

[pilotguy299]

I am still waffling on getting the headlight modulators. Mostly because I am worried about target fixation by people coming from the other direction. I've seen the same kind of thing with emergency lighting on police cars, and it's a concern.

Thoughts anyone?

[gregj]

Nice. I had them on my 07 ST1300A for a while. I took them off cause the ST had problems with the bulb wires. They definitely enhance one's visibility to others. I may add them to the 6.

It is funny reading on other boards about the modulators. Naysayers get almost as heated on the topic as Darkside threads. :cheers:

[willtill]

Nice. I had them on my 07 ST1300A for a while. I took them off cause the ST had problems with the bulb wires. They definitely enhance one's visibility to others. I may add them to the 6.

It is funny reading on other boards about the modulators. Naysayers get almost as heated on the topic as Darkside threads. :cheers:

That is so true. :icon_lol: It is amazing to hear/read disapproving opinions of them. Everything that has been said of them causing adverse issues has never been experienced by me. And I have been running modulators for quite a few years now. Some of the opinions:

1, They cause traffic to fixate on you and you risk being hit (never has happened)
2. They are illegal in other states (legal in all 50 states)
3. They cause road rage (have not experienced that with them)
4. They're misinterpreted often as giving way to other traffic (far few instances of having someone fail to yield to me; that happens more often when I am not using them)
5. They'll burn out your light bulbs faster (haven't seen evidence of that)

:icon_rolleyes:

[Felloverboard]

I am still waffling on getting the headlight modulators. Mostly because I am worried about target fixation by people coming from the other direction. I've seen the same kind of thing with emergency lighting on police cars, and it's a concern.

Thoughts anyone?
If they target you.... then they see you. I have people take a double take to avoid me from intersections and sometimes ones coming at you slow or pull over a little thinking you are an emergency vehicle, but all that is about 1% of the time. Usually you are ignored after they notice you. Except for the haters who also apparently noticed you.

[pilotguy299]

That is so true. :icon_lol: It is amazing to hear/read disapproving opinions of them. Everything that has been said of them causing adverse issues has never been experienced by me. And I have been running modulators for quite a few years now. Some of the opinions:

1, They cause traffic to fixate on you and you risk being hit (never has happened)
2. They are illegal in other states (legal in all 50 states)
3. They cause road rage (have not experienced that with them)
4. They're misinterpreted often as giving way to other traffic (far few instances of having someone fail to yield to me; that happens more often when I am not using them)
5. They'll burn out your light bulbs faster (haven't seen evidence of that)

:icon_rolleyes:


I'm really only concerned about #1. I've found myself fixating on bikes heading my way with modulators. And i've seen too many cop cars get rear ended when strobes first came out, because people (especially the elderly) would fixate on them. Look at where you want to go, and you will go there...

I'll probably end up getting them, but will probably also put in the in-line cut-off switch like one poster did in this thread:

http://hondaf6b.com/showthread.php?6721-Modulating-headlight-debate

[pilotguy299]

just placed the order, which I should have just done to begin with! :)

[gregj]

I never found traffic fixating on them, if anything the total opposite. I had noticed a big difference in people NOT turning right on red in front of me. It was noticeable they would inch forward like they were going to, noticed the lights then stopped.

I did have a lot of people move out of the left lane when I pulled up. :icon_twisted:

[pilotguy299]

Received the Kisan modulator for the LEDs this afternoon, and installed them. I placed the sensor just above the left cubby. I had to do a little filing underneath that part to make room for the washer & nut, but I don't think it looks too bad.

http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/IMG_1515_zpswgkcapdd.jpg


The modulators really look to me like they are turning the LEDs completely on and off. I called Kisan just to make sure I received the correct version for the LEDS, and was told that I had.


http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/trim.73986643-732D-4608-A3E5-2809DD94F1A9_zpsuj9zqf1k.mp4

[willtill]

Received the Kisan modulator for the LEDs this afternoon, and installed them. I placed the sensor just above the left cubby. I had to do a little filing underneath that part to make room for the washer & nut, but I don't think it looks too bad.

http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/IMG_1515_zpswgkcapdd.jpg


The modulators really look to me like they are turning the LEDs completely on and off. I called Kisan just to make sure I received the correct version for the LEDS, and was told that I had.


http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/trim.73986643-732D-4608-A3E5-2809DD94F1A9_zpsuj9zqf1k.mp4

As long as that spot has an uninterrupted view of the sky; it's a good spot.

I guarantee you; that you will now enjoy a more favorable riding experience in vehicular traffic. :yes: :yes:

You will see. :icon_cool:

[pilotguy299]

As long as that spot has an uninterrupted view of the sky; it's a good spot.

I guarantee you; that you will now enjoy a more favorable riding experience in vehicular traffic. :yes: :yes:

You will see. :icon_cool:

I had set it up in my garage and the headlights "modulated" until I placed my hand about 6" above the sensor, and then it stopped. Moving my hand away and it started again.

I'm sure that I am going to notice the difference, and could have used it yesterday on a ride I went on.

Now I am just worried about getting pulled over for flashing lights, because they really don't look like they are modulating.

Look at the video and tell me what you think...

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/trim.73986643-732D-4608-A3E5-2809DD94F1A9_zpsuj9zqf1k.mp4

[taxfree4]

They cannot cite you as long as they modulate simultaneously, per DOT.

[pilotguy299]

They look like they are flashing, not modulating. Or at least they look like that to me...

[willtill]

I had set it up in my garage and the headlights "modulated" until I placed my hand about 6" above the sensor, and then it stopped. Moving my hand away and it started again.

I'm sure that I am going to notice the difference, and could have used it yesterday on a ride I went on.

Now I am just worried about getting pulled over for flashing lights, because they really don't look like they are modulating.

Look at the video and tell me what you think...

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/trim.73986643-732D-4608-A3E5-2809DD94F1A9_zpsuj9zqf1k.mp4

Carry the copy of the Federal Statute with you. You can pull it off of Kisan's website

Slow motion your video and then you will be able to tell for sure. My understanding is that you really cannot reduce the voltage (modulate) a LED but maybe Kisan's has found out how to do it. They wouldn't sell this if it did not conform to the Federal Statute regarding motorcycle headlight modulation

I have been pulled over twice in about 10 years, once by a Maryland State Trooper (whom called in the HQ and then gave me the ok) and once by a Howard County cop whom was a dick :nono: (even after I explained to him what they were) and ended up opening a complaint with Howard County police Internal Affairs.... They ripped the ticket up and expunged it from my records, and sent out a training circular to all of the cops in the county about the legality of Headlight Modulators on motorcycles. :icon_cool:

[pilotguy299]

I did that, and it looks like it goes all the way off.

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/trim.8E2C8837-F7C2-4B26-B942-11F1CFAC8A24_zpsmxmx0rdn.mp4

[willtill]

I did that, and it looks like it goes all the way off.

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/trim.8E2C8837-F7C2-4B26-B942-11F1CFAC8A24_zpsmxmx0rdn.mp4

Yes... those are not modulating. I am surprised that they were depicted as such by Kisan. I have no personal experience with the LED device that they are marketing; only the incandescent one(s)...

The regular incandescent headlights modulate with no issue; and it is perceptible.

My take on this for you....

1. You can choose to run them; carry the statute with you. If pulled over, explain to the cop what they are and how they work. Show him/her the statute.

2. Take them off and get a refund from Kisan citing that they are not doing what they are supposed to be. If you paid for it with credit card; you will have no problem getting your money back (false representation of product).

[pilotguy299]

I think that I am going to leave them on, and worry about it later.

I have a copy of the statute with the instructions, as well as the bill of sale in my saddle bag. And I feel pretty safe explaining that I am relying on what the vendor sent me.

That should work well everywhere, except for Frederick City! lol

[willtill]

I think that I am going to leave them on, and worry about it later.

I have a copy of the statute with the instructions, as well as the bill of sale in my saddle bag. And I feel pretty safe explaining that I am relying on what the vendor sent me.

That should work well everywhere, except for Frederick City! lol


:yes::yes:

[pilotguy299]

I sent the video to Kisan, and they agreed that it doesn't look right. Why they couldn't have figured that out before marketing them is a bit beyond me.

Anyway, they are going to do some sort of software modification for the LED version, and send me a replacement sometime this week.

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/Ver%201%20Front%20Slow%20Motion_zpsvelxfiyv.mp4

[willtill]

I sent the video to Kisan, and they agreed that it doesn't look right. Why they couldn't have figured that out before marketing them is a bit behind me.

Anyway, they are going to do some sort of software modification for the LED version, and send me a replacement sometime this week.

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/Ver%201%20Front%20Slow%20Motion_zpsvelxfiyv.mp4

Interesting. Please keep all of us posted with what they do.

[TailGunner]

I sent the video to Kisan, and they agreed that it doesn't look right. Why they couldn't have figured that out before marketing them is a bit beyond me.

Anyway, they are going to do some sort of software modification for the LED version, and send me a replacement sometime this week.

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/Ver%201%20Front%20Slow%20Motion_zpsvelxfiyv.mp4

So that might be the reason Kisan called me about my order and asked what kind of LED's I am using. When I told him he said he was going to send the non led one but then said he was going to look into it more after I told hime my buddy has been running the led version for awhile now. I guess I will find out tomorrow what they sent me.

[pilotguy299]

So that might be the reason Kisan called me about my order and asked what kind of LED's I am using. When I told him he said he was going to send the non led one but then said he was going to look into it more after I told hime my buddy has been running the led version for awhile now. I guess I will find out tomorrow what they sent me.

They had called me too, because not many people have LED headlights and that they were going to send me the correct version for the pathfinder lights. maybe the second set will work better. should know by monday afternoon when they arrive...

[Hornblower]

Not surprising that the LED's are being turned on and off by the modulator rather than actually modulating. LED's have a cutoff voltage so if the voltage is reduced too much, they simply turn off rather than dim like a halogen would. It may be a matter of not reducing the voltage as much when the modulators are used with LED's. Not sure how well that would work either but someone will need to experiment to know for sure. I'm in the camp of not being a fan of modulators but rather adding additional really bright lights to increase conspicuity.

[gregj]

Yes... those are not modulating. I am surprised that they were depicted as such by Kisan. I have no personal experience with the LED device that they are marketing; only the incandescent one(s)...

The regular incandescent headlights modulate with no issue; and it is perceptible.

My take on this for you....

1. You can choose to run them; carry the statute with you. If pulled over, explain to the cop what they are and how they work. Show him/her the statute.

2. Take them off and get a refund from Kisan citing that they are not doing what they are supposed to be. If you paid for it with credit card; you will have no problem getting your money back (false representation of product).

I did this when I had them on my VTX. I had a VA state trooper pull me over once because he thought I was signalling traffic to move over (which apparently is illegal in Va). I explained the modulators, he had never heard of them before, showed him the statute and he was ok with it. Said he would pass it along to everyone in his barrack. :yes:

[pilotguy299]

well I finally went for my first real ride using version 1 of the LED modulators (replacements should be here monday), and my only real complaint is that EVERYONE PULLS OVER AND TRIES TO STOP!

Ended up having it off more than on.

Hopefully it's not as much of a problem with version 2...

[willtill]

well I finally went for my first real ride using version 1 of the LED modulators (replacements should be here monday), and my only real complaint is that EVERYONE PULLS OVER AND TRIES TO STOP!

Ended up having it off more than on.

Hopefully it's not as much of a problem with version 2...

Leave them on. Your visually presented conspicuously is more important than their apprehension.

Or... Subscribe to possibly being not seen and dead.

The more of us that run these modulators, the more that the traveling public will get used to them. :yes:

[pilotguy299]

So I received the revised LED Headlight Modulators from Kisan yesterday. I think they look a lot better, and more like they are actually modulating instead of turning off and back on:

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/MOV03808_zpspc6cyokb_2.mp4

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/MOV03806_zpsleisxv1b.mp4

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/V2%20Close%20Slow%20Motion_zpseeauqnx9.mp4

[willtill]

So I received the revised LED Headlight Modulators from Kisan yesterday. I think they look a lot better, and more like they are actually modulating instead of turning off and back on:

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/MOV03808_zpspc6cyokb_2.mp4

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/MOV03806_zpsleisxv1b.mp4

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/V2%20Close%20Slow%20Motion_zpseeauqnx9.mp4

I'm getting "Video can't be played because file is corrupt" messages....

[53driver]

I'm getting "Video can't be played because file is corrupt" messages....

Won't play in Chrome on my Mac Faux.

[pilotguy299]

mmmmm, all three just played for me on my macbook using the links...

[53driver]

mmmmm, all three just played for me on my macbook using the links...

Safari or Chrome?

[pilotguy299]

Safari...

[53driver]

Yup, Safari worked fine. Chrome plug-in fail.... Great.

[willtill]

Using latest version of Firefox... links say file(s) are corrupt :shrug:

[pilotguy299]

Using latest version of Firefox... links say file(s) are corrupt :shrug:

OK Will, I just uploaded 4 more videos. what about these?

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/MOV03811_zpsgc66afqi.mp4

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/MOV03815_zps2c6wyaof.mp4

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/MOV03810_zpszbwqjhsg.mp4

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/MOV03813_zpsxkfeaxlq.mp4


I had people pulling over in front of me all day long today. One F'r in a red mustang actually yelled at me at a red light on the golden mile because of the modulating headlights. Blew him a kiss just before I rode away.

The LED high beams are insanely bright, so I may adjust them a bit low to compensate.

[Hornblower]

Works on Chrome :yes:

[willtill]

OK Will, I just uploaded 4 more videos. what about these?

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/MOV03811_zpsgc66afqi.mp4

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/MOV03815_zps2c6wyaof.mp4

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/MOV03810_zpszbwqjhsg.mp4

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/MOV03813_zpsxkfeaxlq.mp4


I had people pulling over in front of me all day long today. One F'r in a red mustang actually yelled at me at a red light on the golden mile because of the modulating headlights. Blew him a kiss just before I rode away.

The LED high beams are insanely bright, so I may adjust them a bit low to compensate.

Ya... still can't get (your video's) to play of Firefox... but will check out your new video's on my Ipad Air; once I get to it. :icon_wink:

You have taken a great step towards preserving your continued existence; while astride a mighty metal steed, in the midst of all too frequent killer cager traffic. :yes: :yes:

[pilotguy299]

Ya... still can't get (your video's) to play of Firefox... but will check out your new video's on my Ipad Air; once I get to it. :icon_wink:

You have taken a great step towards preserving your continued existence; while astride a mighty metal steed, in the midst of all too frequent killer cager traffic. :yes: :yes:


lol

[TailGunner]

OK Will, I just uploaded 4 more videos. what about these?

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/MOV03811_zpsgc66afqi.mp4

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/MOV03815_zps2c6wyaof.mp4

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/MOV03810_zpszbwqjhsg.mp4

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/MOV03813_zpsxkfeaxlq.mp4


I had people pulling over in front of me all day long today. One F'r in a red mustang actually yelled at me at a red light on the golden mile because of the modulating headlights. Blew him a kiss just before I rode away.

The LED high beams are insanely bright, so I may adjust them a bit low to compensate.
Are any of these a video of the bad one? They look the same to me

[pilotguy299]

Are any of these a video of the bad one? They look the same to me

Do you mean the first modulator I was sent? No, they are all of the second one.

Here is the first one:

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/Ver%201%20Front%20Slow%20Motion_zpsvelxfiyv.mp4

even before it hits the slow motion section, the lights look like they are going all the way off.


Here's the second one:

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/MOV03810_zpszbwqjhsg.mp4

much better!

[TailGunner]

Do you mean the first modulator I was sent? No, they are all of the second one.

Here is the first one:

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/Ver%201%20Front%20Slow%20Motion_zpsvelxfiyv.mp4

even before it hits the slow motion section, the lights look like they are going all the way off.


Here's the second one:

http://vid988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/pilotguy299/Kisan/MOV03810_zpszbwqjhsg.mp4

much better!

Thanks Pilotguy. That confirms mine are fine. So was your first one just a defect?

[Travelor]

I had people pulling over in front of me all day long today. One F'r in a red mustang actually yelled at me at a red light on the golden mile because of the modulating headlights. Blew him a kiss just before I rode away.

The LED high beams are insanely bright, so I may adjust them a bit low to compensate.

That's why I put my mine on the low beam with a manual cut-off switch. Hi-beams just too much for other drivers.

[pilotguy299]

Thanks Pilotguy. That confirms mine are fine. So was your first one just a defect?

Kisan said the LED version needed a software change. IDK...

[pilotguy299]

That's why I put my mine on the low beam with a manual cut-off switch. Hi-beams just too much for other drivers.

I may end doing that. But I'm going to give it some time as is and see how it goes. I'm not really liking the idea of having to cut in to their control cable to install a switch, and then drill yet another hole in the dash area.

[maxrider]

Hi-beams just too much for other drivers:icon_biggrin::icon_biggrin::icon_biggrin:, get used to it, thanks for saving me a spot on the road, what happened with "Share the road", misguided sympathy, but I respect your opinion regardless.

[J0k3r]

I may end doing that. But I'm going to give it some time as is and see how it goes. I'm not really liking the idea of having to cut in to their control cable to install a switch, and then drill yet another hole in the dash area.

Hey Pilot. Thanks for sharing. This is great info. Just got my 2016 F6B 2 weeks ago and knew I wanted the modulator before I picked it up. I do want to switch to LEDs. Which ones are you using and where did you get them? Will any LED work with them or is there a specific LED bulb required? Thanks again.:lolup:

[jm21ddd15]

Just a bit of info, for anyone with headlight modulators, be careful if you ride in Wisconsin, as they are illegal here. The law states "no flashing lights on the front allowed". I don't know if the police enforce the law, just passing on the info. You may want to check other states if your traveling cross country.

[willtill]

Just a bit of info, for anyone with headlight modulators, be careful if you ride in Wisconsin, as they are illegal here. The law states "no flashing lights on the front allowed". I don't know if the police enforce the law, just passing on the info. You may want to check other states if your traveling cross country.

They ARE NOT illegal in Wisconsin. Someone is blowing smoke up your rear orifice.

Headlight Modulators do not "flash" they modulate.

It's up to you to educate your law enforcement if you're pulled over for them. The Federal government allows their use in all 50 states. This is a fully authorized motorcycle safety device; that's Federally allowed to use on all state, county, city, land local municipality public roads, and overrides any ordinances to the contrary.

[jm21ddd15]

They ARE NOT illegal in Wisconsin. Someone is blowing smoke up your rear orifice.

Headlight Modulators do not "flash" they modulate.

It's up to you to educate your law enforcement if you're pulled over for them. The Federal government allows their use in all 50 states. This is a fully authorized motorcycle safety device; that's Federally allowed to use on all state, county, city, land local municipality public roads, and overrides any ordinances to the contrary.

Headlight modulators are fine with me. I don't have them on any of my bikes, so I don't need to "educate" any law men about them. Just sayin, some lawmen can be "unfriendly".

[pilotguy299]

Hey Pilot. Thanks for sharing. This is great info. Just got my 2016 F6B 2 weeks ago and knew I wanted the modulator before I picked it up. I do want to switch to LEDs. Which ones are you using and where did you get them? Will any LED work with them or is there a specific LED bulb required? Thanks again.:lolup:

i bought the pathfinder led headlights from SoCal.

i ended up not cutting the cable or installing a switch. i just let them run when the highbeams are on.

[53driver]

i bought the led headlights from SoCal.

i ended up not cutting the cable or installing a switch. i just let them run when the highbeams are on.

+1.
I have the SoCal LEDs in Low & High.
Installed the Kisan on the High Beams, per the directions.
VERY nice piece o' gear.

Cheers,
Steve

[taxfree4]

You can print this out and keep it on hand to L.E. if you get pulled over.

https://kisantech.com/mag/regulations

[BIGLRY]

http://www.californiavtxriders.com/phpBB3/gallery/image37670.jpg

[Texas F6B]

Just placed an order for Kisan modulators, for my new 2016 F6B. Like this forum, thanks.

[Texas F6B]

Just placed an order for Kisan modulators, for my new 2016 F6B. Like this forum, thanks.

Posting the out come of the dealer install, sadly it's not the tech bike. Install the easy way, running lights, and charge $258.00. Kisan staff great. I will be revisiting the dealer service department hopefully they will do the right thing.

[willtill]

I actually reinstalled (moved) my Kisan modulators yesterday; to the low beams. I think that the F6B's high beams are way too bright for the modulation.

I've been a little uneasy with the intensity of the high beams modulating exclusively, ever since I've installed them.

Yesterday, I had a GoldWing pass me in the opposite direction and his low beams were modulating. Looked a lot better and was just as effective... without the high beams being used.

I haven't had any issues installing the headlight modulators on my past bikes via the high beams... but I think the Goldwing/F6B platform is the exception.

[53driver]

Low beams.....that means they are on all the time that it is light out, and cannot be secured unless you cap the sensor.

For me, I'd rather have them on the high beams, and be able to secure them as necessary (see my operating rules in previous post) and THEN have them ON and doing their thing when I need it.
I think it's the stealth Marine in me that likes to keep things up my sleeve, rather than my Army counterparts who use lay it all out there from the git go. :poke: :stirthepot:

Cheers,
Steve

[willtill]

Low beams.....that means they are on all the time that it is light out, and cannot be secured unless you cap the sensor.

For me, I'd rather have them on the high beams, and be able to secure them as necessary (see my operating rules in previous post) and THEN have them ON and doing their thing when I need it.
I think it's the stealth Marine in me that likes to keep things up my sleeve, rather than my Army counterparts who use lay it all out there from the git go. :poke: :stirthepot:

Cheers,
Steve

Yea.. I know that they'll be on all of the time (during daylight hours...) the ambient light sensor does keep them off at night. I have a roll of 100 mph tape up my sleeve if needed... if I need to take a piece of it to tape over the sensor. :icon_wink:

You know that the U.S. Army doesn't roll unless we've got 100mph tape on board. Necessary equipment. :icon_mrgreen:

[Travelor]

I actually reinstalled (moved) my Kisan modulators yesterday; to the low beams. I think that the F6B's high beams are way too bright for the modulation.

I've been a little uneasy with the intensity of the high beams modulating exclusively, ever since I've installed them.

Yesterday, I had a GoldWing pass me in the opposite direction and his low beams were modulating. Looked a lot better and was just as effective... without the high beams being used.

I haven't had any issues installing the headlight modulators on my past bikes via the high beams... but I think the Goldwing/F6B platform is the exception.

I'm with you, that's why I installed them on the low beams. Easy enough to put tape over the sensor if needed. I went a step further and put a small "cut off" switch in the sensor circuit. But you've got to love the output of the high beams - better than my car!