hope for the future.....is there

[cosborn]

Took a fancy to this one.

Chris

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[stroguy]

Took a fancy to this one.

Chris

19410

Funny, but once again I'll explain it this way. We, Americans will handle this. Where is the funny pic of hillaree flushing the country in the toilet from jail? Trump isn't my man, but he sure as hell will get my vote before that skank criminal inept pos. What effects will Trump have on Australia?

[Navvet]

Funny, but once again I'll explain it this way. We, Americans will handle this. Where is the funny pic of hillaree flushing the country in the toilet from jail? Trump isn't my man, but he sure as hell will get my vote before that skank criminal inept pos. What effects will Trump have on Australia?

:lolup::lolup::lolup::lolup::lolup::lolup::lolup:: lolup::lolup::lolup::lolup:

[Phantom]

Trump isn't my man, but he sure as hell will get my vote before that skank criminal inept pos. What effects will Trump have on Australia?


Australians needs to worry about Chinese, Russian and North Korean Governments, Those in your backyard will do more harm before worrying about what any US president will do.

I assure you no matter how bad Australians think our president to be is … Whomever wins will be better then the three that I described above.

When China starts flexing their muscle in the Southern China Sea and Disturbing the peace in Australia's neighborhood, I will bet money that Australia will come running to the US for Naval assistance regardless if Trump is president or not.

Americans are tired of seeing our standards LOWERED to the level of failing countries throughout the world, we are WORSE off today then we were just a few years ago, poverty, low paying jobs, REAL unemployment/under-employment and our National DEBT is horrendous here in the US. More people on food stamps then in US History…. What is Australia doing to help us with that? :popcorn:

Don't worry if TRUMP becomes president, at least he will try to get us back on track. Yes, he will make enemies along the way, however you can't please everyone. Decisions have to be made for the good of the ENTIRE nation, not just special groups. The king of the Hill will always have opponents that want to knock him down. He can't do any worse then what has been done in the past 7 years.


Cosborn, if you think that our current administration has made the world a safer and better place …. I would disagree
If only Ronald Reagan was on the Ticket today ….
Let's go riding.

[Steve 0080]

Funny, but once again I'll explain it this way. We, Americans will handle this. Where is the funny pic of hillaree flushing the country in the toilet from jail? Trump isn't my man, but he sure as hell will get my vote before that skank criminal inept pos. What effects will Trump have on Australia?



I am not a Trump fan as well... anything other than an Dumocrat !

[ReserveBum]

ABH.....Anyone But Hillary. But we still have to deal with our Party Liners where they will vote all democrat (or republican) regardless of who is running even if it is the devil.

[shooter]

Stro may not claim him but I will. Our country needs a Donald Trump. Hey if what you are doing isn't working then change it up. At least he's honest about his agenda. Some of these slackers aren't gonna like it. Might get them off my back. The load is heavy.

[seadog]

Trump has those political suits running for cover, we need someone that knows how to make money, get business rolling and can balance the countries checkbook. Seems no one in Washington knows how to do that at the current time.

[vmaxed]

https://youtu.be/3XriXDtfqCg

[blueverclear]

I will take any democrat over anyone in the republican field right now. Hillary or Bernie and day of the week over the ass hole billionaire, the ass hole senator who is will to shut down the government just to make a point, the senator who basically is "too busy to participate", and the only intelligent guy on the republican side doesn't have a chance in hell. Boy y'all are screwed lol

Grant

[Cool Hand Luke]

Funny, but once again I'll explain it this way. We, Americans will handle this. Where is the funny pic of hillaree flushing the country in the toilet from jail? Trump isn't my man, but he sure as hell will get my vote before that skank criminal inept pos. What effects will Trump have on Australia?

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[stroguy]

Which Senator was shutting down the government? A Senator carries one vote. They are powerless to shut down the government. But I definitely see a President that shuts down the government. His one veto can and does shut the government down. I think there might be that wool thing going on here. The media is good at that.

[opas ride]

I will take any democrat over anyone in the republican field right now. Hillary or Bernie and day of the week over the ass hole billionaire, the ass hole senator who is will to shut down the government just to make a point, the senator who basically is "too busy to participate", and the only intelligent guy on the republican side doesn't have a chance in hell. Boy y'all are screwed lol

Grant

Hope you feel this same way in a couple of years if one of these Socialist, liberal, lying, left-wing radicals become President...There won't be much of the US left if these Democratic "idiots" don't pull their head out of their ass!!!......Get a grip on reality my friend....

[cosborn]

Aah each to their own, 50 people 50 different ideas. We haven't had a good track record in the past, and you are quite right, the real problem as i see it is coming from the South Chine Sea.

Best of luck

Chris

[blueverclear]

Hope you feel this same way in a couple of years if one of these Socialist, liberal, lying, left-wing radicals become President...There won't be much of the US left if these Democratic "idiots" don't pull their head out of their ass!!!......Get a grip on reality my friend....

I am am democrat and don't appreciate being called an idiot just because we have an ideological difference on how the country should be run. Maybe you should pull your own head out of your ass and realize that not one party has all of the answers, it should be more of a blend between different views which give this country the best result.

Personal attacks should not be allowed on a forum like this, nothing are facts just opinions of members. Hopefully the moderators are paying attention to this thread.

Grant

[seadog]

Sadly we need someone of the caliber of Thomas Jefferson, but have failed to produce anyone even close to his abilities. We are left with a mishmash of people to vote for that have a very slim chance of pulling this country out of the destruction its heading for. Voting for anyone of these people that are running is just a crap shoot. Our wish is to get our country back on track with a bank of leader that have very little chance of accomplishing this goal! JMHO

[edgeman55]

I am am democrat and don't appreciate being called an idiot just because we have an ideological difference on how the country should be run. Maybe you should pull your own head out of your ass and realize that not one party has all of the answers, it should be more of a blend between different views which give this country the best result.

Personal attacks should not be allowed on a forum like this, nothing are facts just opinions of members. Hopefully the moderators are paying attention to this thread.

Grant

Grant well said.That is why a lot of us on here will not post to political forums because of the "IF you don't think like me you are a idiot attitude".Old thinkers only hate social programs unless it is being used by them like Social security,Medicare,VA which all us pay for in one way or another.Police and fire,public schools all funded by Tax payers for the betterment of all.Nothing is perfect as I have always had to vote for the lesser of two evils.And anyone who thinks it has been the last 7 years that have damaged us must have short term memory for the 40+ in front of it.I do not belong to any party and try to vote for who I think will do the least amount of damage but after watching that last Republican debate I was wondering if there was any civility left-I guess not so do not expect it here.

[taxfree4]

Hillary had one job to do - and she couldn't even do that, a subcontractor had to finish.

[stroguy]

If social programs that I am paying into are being raped by deadbeats that didn't pay into them and have no desire to pay into them, should I be concerned? Or, do I just say oh well that's the way it is....so sad....too bad. No 'old thinkers' want social programs eliminated as you so eloquently surmise. But some just get plain tired of giving their money to selfish unthankful pricks. If you don't know how corrupt the welfare system is, I have a good buddy in HPD undercover that can tell you some stories while we sit around the camp fire snackin on some s'mores.

[opas ride]

I am am democrat and don't appreciate being called an idiot just because we have an ideological difference on how the country should be run. Maybe you should pull your own head out of your ass and realize that not one party has all of the answers, it should be more of a blend between different views which give this country the best result.

Personal attacks should not be allowed on a forum like this, nothing are facts just opinions of members. Hopefully the moderators are paying attention to this thread.

Grant

No personal attack intended....The Democrats I was referring to are the two that are currently running....Obviously you can see I am a Republican and always will be, but just do not agree with the liberal policies of the Democratic party....I am not naïve about what is happening to America, and at 76 years old could care less about being liked by all.....Again, please take no personal attack because of your views and party choice.....Ride safe

[Ridlikhel]

I will take any democrat over anyone in the republican field right now. Hillary or Bernie and day of the week over the ass hole billionaire, the ass hole senator who is will to shut down the government just to make a point, the senator who basically is "too busy to participate", and the only intelligent guy on the republican side doesn't have a chance in hell. Boy y'all are screwed lol

Grant

Oh, so you're one of those that would rather have a Husband and Wife Millionaire ass holes run the country. Not sure that's any better than the jerk that's fucking up the country right now. You can give your money to illegals that drive down the pay of hard working Americans, but I would rather help someone in need that has been paying taxes for years.

[shooter]

I don't see how anybody of sound mind can believe that everything is even close to OK. Anybody that wants to come into the country can draw a check , get an apartment , and enjoy free healthcare. I've been here my whole life and I work 50 hours a week , have a house payment and my shitty Obamacare costs me $600 a month. What's up with that. I mostly vote Republican but I would vote for a Democrat that could fix those problems. I don't think a penny should leave this country as long as we have needs here. Close the borders. I'm tired of supporting every Pedro Dick and Harry that walks in. Illegal means something. They aren't legal. Get it?? And another thing. Manufacturers are leaving this country in droves. Why?? The tree huggers. Their philosophy is if they make pollution , run them out of the country. We are losing our tax base. Why not take a portion of those taxes and reinvest in the corporation helping them to reduce greenhouse emissions and keeping those tax dollars here at home. If I was King I would go further than that. First day I would go on TV and say "If it ain't made here its not sold here. You have one year to make it happen." Think about it. There wouldn't be enough homeless and poor to staff the factories. Notice I said King. You know that could happen if we had politicians that cared about US. They care about lining their pockets. THERE IT IS!!!! All of that to get to this. Donald Trump is a multi billionaire. He doesn't need our money. Obama wasn't a millionaire when elected. He is now. His salary didn't do that. Clinton wasn't a millionaire when elected. Very rich when he left. VOTE FOR TRUMP!!!!

[leroysch]

I will take any democrat over anyone in the republican field right now. Hillary or Bernie and day of the week over the ass hole billionaire, the ass hole senator who is will to shut down the government just to make a point, the senator who basically is "too busy to participate", and the only intelligent guy on the republican side doesn't have a chance in hell. Boy y'all are screwed lol

Grant

:yes:

[F6B1911]

I don't see how anybody of sound mind can believe that everything is even close to ....VOTE FOR TRUMP!!!!

The Republicans need to be careful or they'll end up handing the election to the Democrats. It seems the people have spoken, they seem to be saying that they are fed up with the corrupt politics and want a true change. So, why doesn't the party rally behind Trump and fully support him?? With all of the party in-fighting, they're just pissing everyone off even more.
If you watched any of the debates, you gotta wonder why nobody addressed any issues yet have all the time in the world to attack each other?
I haven't heard any Republican comment on Benghazi.
I haven't heard any Republican comment on White Water.
I haven't heard any Republican comment on questionable email management.
I haven't heard any Republican comment on the serious head injury Hillary experienced that allowed her to forget important events, yet allows her to be a qualified presidential candidate.

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[Phantom]

the ass hole billionaire, the ass hole senator
Grant


one of these Socialist, liberal, lying, left-wing radicals become President...There won't be much of the US left if these Democratic "idiots" don't pull their head out of their ass!!!......Get a grip on reality my friend....


I am am democrat and don't appreciate being called an idiot just because we have an ideological difference on how the country should be run. Maybe you should pull your own head out of your ass and realize that not one party has all of the answers.

Personal attacks should not be allowed on a forum like this, nothing are facts just opinions of members. Hopefully the moderators are paying attention to this thread.

Grant



Grant, I don't care if you are a Democrat, Republican or an Independent. YOU labeled the republican candidates as "ass-holes" … No One mis understood to whom you were directing the insults to or calling "Ass-Holes"

Re-read Opas post … He did not call YOU and idiot, he was referring to the Democratic candidates, just like you were referring to the Republican candidates. Your complaint is baseless since you misinterpreted and took his post out of context. Opas didn't call you an "idiot". You proceeded to personally attack Opas by telling him to take his head out of his ass, YOU are the one making a personal insult to another member and YOU are out of line.

You are a new member on here and have not experienced the civility that we have. We can all agree to disagree. This forum is very mild compared to other forums, we all are entitled to our opinions including myself. We are fair minded and I like to hear ALL sides before I make my personal decision. I take great pride in this nation, I dislike those that try to destroy what has made it so great and the land the so many RISK DYING for in their attempt to reach it.

Grant, this is a great forum and yes the moderators do read and keep an eye on it. Just join us for our annual Rally and you will experience the true brotherhood of this forum, regardless of your political or religious views.

[ths61]

Oh, so you're one of those that would rather have a Husband and Wife Millionaire ass holes run the country. Not sure that's any better than the jerk that's fucking up the country right now. You can give your money to illegals that drive down the pay of hard working Americans, but I would rather help someone in need that has been paying taxes for years.

Ever wonder were Union Dues go ?

Hillary Clinton Paying Herself $254,000 to Run for President from Campaign Donations

Don't worry Hillary donors, this is for public service. Not filthy lucre. You're getting Hillary Clinton at a discount rate here. For $254,000 you could barely get her to yawn through one single speech if you're a public university or children's organization.

All told, payroll and benefits transactions to Clinton have totaled $254,447 since the launch of her campaign.

Grifters gotta grift. You can't expect Hillary Clinton to run for president for free. Or just being satisfied with the $135 million in speaking fees that she and her husband have accumulated.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/262050/hillary-clinton-paying-herself-250000-run-daniel-greenfield

At least some other candidates use their own money or take out personal loans against their retirement accounts to do so.

[blueverclear]

Hillary had one job to do - and she couldn't even do that, a subcontractor had to finish.

hahahahahaha now thats funny! lol

[blueverclear]

Grant, I don't care if you are a Democrat, Republican or an Independent. YOU labeled the republican candidates as "ass-holes" … No One mis understood to whom you were directing the insults to or calling "Ass-Holes"

Re-read Opas post … He did not call YOU and idiot, he was referring to the Democratic candidates, just like you were referring to the Republican candidates. Your complaint is baseless since you misinterpreted and took his post out of context. Opas didn't call you an "idiot". You proceeded to personally attack Opas by telling him to take his head out of his ass, YOU are the one making a personal insult to another member and YOU are out of line.

You are a new member on here and have not experienced the civility that we have. We can all agree to disagree. This forum is very mild compared to other forums, we all are entitled to our opinions including myself. We are fair minded and I like to hear ALL sides before I make my personal decision. I take great pride in this nation, I dislike those that try to destroy what has made it so great and the land the so many RISK DYING for in their attempt to reach it.

Grant, this is a great forum and yes the moderators do read and keep an eye on it. Just join us for our annual Rally and you will experience the true brotherhood of this forum, regardless of your political or religious views.

Well I take opas for his word and I hope others do the same for me. I may have misread the comment from Opas so if he says he didn't direct the comment toward me then i believe him 100% and take him for his word as well. If I jumped to conclusion opas, I apologize. :shake2:

Phantom, I would love to come to the rally but im already committed to a week long meet and greet in the smoky mountains the week before the rally. Starting off from New Orleans to Birmingham, AL and going to the Barber Motorsports museum on Monday. Then up to Bryson City, NC from Tuesday - Sunday. Hope to see a friend on the way up as well! :icon_wink::icon_wink:

Grant

[MisterB]

Our system has not scaled up. It was fine back in the day, but over time, people, corporations, politicians, have all found ways to game the system.
Special interests rule the country.
Pit the people against each other by race, party, football team, and keep them occupied while we are all robbed blind.
Common sense is dead, the courts have seen to that.
Divide and conquer is the rule, the parties and media handled that quite well.
Social media will start race wars based on untrue statements.
Humans are flawed to the core, this will not end well.


In the meantime... let's ride!

[taxfree4]

First let me say I have no dog in this fight, I'm not a Democrat, Republican or anything else, was a Conservative till about 10 years ago. Here is a statistic that will clear things up ... a little. While 0.6 percent of the U.S. adult population are lawyers, 41% of Congress are lawyers - that's 68 times the.national average. I don't know if you've had interactions with lawyers, I've had plenty, Criminal - civil- IRS - Family - Traffic etc.none pleasant,and I can tell you they are the lowest form of life there is. Their job is to create fear in you so you need them,,create a doomsday scenario so they can come in and save you, create the chaos then make it appear like only they have the answer - sound familiar. That is the template from which every politician is cast these day "Only I can save you, I'm going to D.C. and fight for you." What?

After you get elected and you go to Washington they sit you down in a room and say "Congratulations, we know you had to say a lot of things during the campaign to get elected, regarding what you were going to do when you came here, well, you're not going to do any of that. If you try to you will never chair, or even sit, on a committee and we will use the party coffers to run against you in the next election and you will be a one term Congressman / Senator / President.", it is the birth of a career politician.They are beholden to lobbyists, big donors (business) period. Former Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill used to say "Money is the mother's milk of politics."

Here comes a self-made billionaire, self funded, never ran for office and the first one he goes for is the Triple Crown, Grand Slam of the Presidency. You don't think these career politicians Clinton, Romney, Bush, Cruz, Biden are jealous, envious, bitter? They've planned this their whole lives - all the work, fund raising, kissing babies, kissing ass, mall openings etc. He has the audacity to enter their domain and go for the PRESIDENCY! More importantly, the 2 parties are scared to death because they have been entrenched in this system forever and they dismissed this guy out of hand and he's making a fool out of them. The parties, and their politicians, are united because Trump threatens their very existence. What if more people, like Trump, decide to run for office, these career politicians will have to leave DC and get a job. Lawyers are the most low self esteem, high ego people on the planet, this has them rattled down to their core, it's job security - for both parties and that's why they are united against him.You see, most politicians look to get power to become rich, Trump is already rich and powerful, it must be driving those lawyers CRAZY. His enemies are united against him.

The Founders never meant for there to be career politicians and that is why the turnover every 2 years for Congress, they had their fill of that with Parliament, I think they were on a 7 year term. They designed this government for regular people to come to Washington, serve and GO BACK HOME and be subject to the laws they passed, of which there are over 20 million, including regulations. Now you know why Congress has over 68 times more lawyers than the national average. The only way for the money to keep flowing is for them to constantly make criminals out of the rank and file. While we bicker over elections and candidates they sit back and dine in the fanciest restaurants, stay in the swankiest hotels, golf at the best courses and hand us the bill - exactly like lawyers do. All the while making it appear they are working. Remember, they are all in the same union, the BAR (British Accredited Registry) and their first obligation is ALWAYS to the court, i.e. why we have/will have so many laws. (Ex. 40,000 laws entered into the Federal Register on 1/1/11)

Say what you want about Trump but I've seen a LOT of kids inherit money or a business and within a year it is gone, forever. He managed to surpass his father, many times over, and now he is running for President, not bad for a contractor. You don't get to run a worlwide organization like his without the ability to identify brilliant, talented and dedicated leaders. He knows how to delegate his authority and to pick the right people for the job, and isn't that what a great leader does. Ask yourself this, when the Founders were thinking about what country they wanted to create, the ideas and ideals they had in mind when drafting those incredible documents that were the blueprint of the greatest experiment of freedom and opportunity in human history, who do you think fulfills that criteria more than anyone running. Who has benefited more from the freedoms and opportunities of America and whose lifestyle would not change one iota if they lost tomorrow. He goes home to Milenia, c'mon just nabbing that I'd crown him king.

Besides, when do you get a chance to piss off this many lawyers in one shot.

You know why lawyers wear neckties ----- it keeps the foreskin down

[dickiedeals]

First let me say I have no dog in this fight, I'm not a Democrat, Republican or anything else, was a Conservative till about 10 years ago. Here is a statistic that will clear things up ... a little. While 0.6 percent of the U.S. adult population are lawyers, 41% of Congress are lawyers - that's 68 times the.national average. I don't know if you've had interactions with lawyers, I've had plenty, Criminal - civil- IRS - Family - Traffic etc.none pleasant,and I can tell you they are the lowest form of life there is. Their job is to create fear in you so you need them,,create a doomsday scenario so they can come in and save you, create the chaos then make it appear like only they have the answer - sound familiar. That is the template from which every politician is cast these day "Only I can save you, I'm going to D.C. and fight for you." What?

After you get elected and you go to Washington they sit you down in a room and say "Congratulations, we know you had to say a lot of things during the campaign to get elected, regarding what you were going to do when you came here, well, you're not going to do any of that. If you try to you will never chair, or even sit, on a committee and we will use the party coffers to run against you in the next election and you will be a one term Congressman / Senator / President.", it is the birth of a career politician.They are beholden to lobbyists, big donors (business) period. Former Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill used to say "Money is the mother's milk of politics."

Here comes a self-made billionaire, self funded, never ran for office and the first one he goes for is the Triple Crown, Grand Slam of the Presidency. You don't think these career politicians Clinton, Romney, Bush, Cruz, Biden are jealous, envious, bitter? They've planned this their whole lives - all the work, fund raising, kissing babies, kissing ass, mall openings etc. He has the audacity to enter their domain and go for the PRESIDENCY! More importantly, the 2 parties are scared to death because they have been entrenched in this system forever and they dismissed this guy out of hand and he's making a fool out of them. The parties, and their politicians, are united because Trump threatens their very existence. What if more people, like Trump, decide to run for office, these career politicians will have to leave DC and get a job. Lawyers are the most low self esteem, high ego people on the planet, this has them rattled down to their core, it's job security - for both parties and that's why they are united against him.You see, most politicians look to get power to become rich, Trump is already rich and powerful, it must be driving those lawyers CRAZY. His enemies are united against him.

The Founders never meant for there to be career politicians and that is why the turnover every 2 years for Congress, they had their fill of that with Parliament, I think they were on a 7 year term. They designed this government for regular people to come to Washington, serve and GO BACK HOME and be subject to the laws they passed, of which there are over 20 million, including regulations. Now you know why Congress has over 68 times more lawyers than the national average. The only way for the money to keep flowing is for them to constantly make criminals out of the rank and file. While we bicker over elections and candidates they sit back and dine in the fanciest restaurants, stay in the swankiest hotels, golf at the best courses and hand us the bill - exactly like lawyers do. All the while making it appear they are working. Remember, they are all in the same union, the BAR (British Accredited Registry) and their first obligation is ALWAYS to the court, i.e. why we have/will have so many laws. (Ex. 40,000 laws entered into the Federal Register on 1/1/11)

Say what you want about Trump but I've seen a LOT of kids inherit money or a business and within a year it is gone, forever. He managed to surpass his father, many times over, and now he is running for President, not bad for a contractor. You don't get to run a worlwide organization like his without the ability to identify brilliant, talented and dedicated leaders. He knows how to delegate his authority and to pick the right people for the job, and isn't that what a great leader does. Ask yourself this, when the Founders were thinking about what country they wanted to create, the ideas and ideals they had in mind when drafting those incredible documents that were the blueprint of the greatest experiment of freedom and opportunity in human history, who do you think fulfills that criteria more than anyone running. Who has benefited more from the freedoms and opportunities of America and whos' lifestyle would not change one iota if they lost tomorrow. He goes home to Milenia, c'mon just nabbing that I'd crown him king.

Besides, when do you get a chance to piss off this many lawyers in one shot.

You know why lawyers wear neckties ----- it keeps the foreskin down

Well said...............Vote Trump...............

[Cool Hand Luke]

First let me say I have no dog in this fight, I'm not a Democrat, Republican or anything else, was a Conservative till about 10 years ago. Here is a statistic that will clear things up ... a little. While 0.6 percent of the U.S. adult population are lawyers, 41% of Congress are lawyers - that's 68 times the.national average. I don't know if you've had interactions with lawyers, I've had plenty, Criminal - civil- IRS - Family - Traffic etc.none pleasant,and I can tell you they are the lowest form of life there is. Their job is to create fear in you so you need them,,create a doomsday scenario so they can come in and save you, create the chaos then make it appear like only they have the answer - sound familiar. That is the template from which every politician is cast these day "Only I can save you, I'm going to D.C. and fight for you." What?

After you get elected and you go to Washington they sit you down in a room and say "Congratulations, we know you had to say a lot of things during the campaign to get elected, regarding what you were going to do when you came here, well, you're not going to do any of that. If you try to you will never chair, or even sit, on a committee and we will use the party coffers to run against you in the next election and you will be a one term Congressman / Senator / President.", it is the birth of a career politician.They are beholden to lobbyists, big donors (business) period. Former Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill used to say "Money is the mother's milk of politics."

Here comes a self-made billionaire, self funded, never ran for office and the first one he goes for is the Triple Crown, Grand Slam of the Presidency. You don't think these career politicians Clinton, Romney, Bush, Cruz, Biden are jealous, envious, bitter? They've planned this their whole lives - all the work, fund raising, kissing babies, kissing ass, mall openings etc. He has the audacity to enter their domain and go for the PRESIDENCY! More importantly, the 2 parties are scared to death because they have been entrenched in this system forever and they dismissed this guy out of hand and he's making a fool out of them. The parties, and their politicians, are united because Trump threatens their very existence. What if more people, like Trump, decide to run for office, these career politicians will have to leave DC and get a job. Lawyers are the most low self esteem, high ego people on the planet, this has them rattled down to their core, it's job security - for both parties and that's why they are united against him.You see, most politicians look to get power to become rich, Trump is already rich and powerful, it must be driving those lawyers CRAZY. His enemies are united against him.

The Founders never meant for there to be career politicians and that is why the turnover every 2 years for Congress, they had their fill of that with Parliament, I think they were on a 7 year term. They designed this government for regular people to come to Washington, serve and GO BACK HOME and be subject to the laws they passed, of which there are over 20 million, including regulations. Now you know why Congress has over 68 times more lawyers than the national average. The only way for the money to keep flowing is for them to constantly make criminals out of the rank and file. While we bicker over elections and candidates they sit back and dine in the fanciest restaurants, stay in the swankiest hotels, golf at the best courses and hand us the bill - exactly like lawyers do. All the while making it appear they are working. Remember, they are all in the same union, the BAR (British Accredited Registry) and their first obligation is ALWAYS to the court, i.e. why we have/will have so many laws. (Ex. 40,000 laws entered into the Federal Register on 1/1/11)

Say what you want about Trump but I've seen a LOT of kids inherit money or a business and within a year it is gone, forever. He managed to surpass his father, many times over, and now he is running for President, not bad for a contractor. You don't get to run a worlwide organization like his without the ability to identify brilliant, talented and dedicated leaders. He knows how to delegate his authority and to pick the right people for the job, and isn't that what a great leader does. Ask yourself this, when the Founders were thinking about what country they wanted to create, the ideas and ideals they had in mind when drafting those incredible documents that were the blueprint of the greatest experiment of freedom and opportunity in human history, who do you think fulfills that criteria more than anyone running. Who has benefited more from the freedoms and opportunities of America and whose lifestyle would not change one iota if they lost tomorrow. He goes home to Milenia, c'mon just nabbing that I'd crown him king.

Besides, when do you get a chance to piss off this many lawyers in one shot.

You know why lawyers wear neckties ----- it keeps the foreskin down


Now, that was the most interesting read I came across in a while! Taxfree, that took you a while and I thank you for it.

I HATE politics but I have to chime in here. I absolutely agree with you and Dickiedeals! I want a serious change in our country and I am willing to give Trump a chance. I am disgusted with all career politicians and want a different person in the office. The way I think, why would Trump even consider running? He is already rich and famous, nothing to gain there. At 69, why not just enjoy golf and goof off for the rest of his life. Instead he chose to have his life exposed and probed into by his opponents with adolescent remarks (small hands, really?). So, my thinking is that he really is fed up with our politicians and has something positive for our country.

On the other hand, I am amazed how anyone can vote for Hillary. She IS a proved liar, opportunist and quute possibly responsible for deaths of some Americans in other countries. Just a simple internet search can prove all this, one can see youtube videos about her, where she said one thing a few years ago and now is saying something completely different. She is very sly and cunning person. Also, if any of us here on this forum have done the same emals she did, we would have been pronounced a terrorist and be in jail long time ago. But not her, she is running for president! Why is that? Because she has HUGE interest groups, corporations and ultimately money supporting her so she would continue to keep these people (and herself) rich. Also, all those poor people on welfare that current administration put there will vote for Hillary to stay on welfare. Unfortunately, she has a very big chance of winning.

I don't see myself as Republican or Democrat. I simply look at the person itself.

[Hornblower]

Taxfree--I have to say your previous post is one of the best thought out, real, and honest posts I've seen in quite a while. I found it very refreshing, especially after reading the few posts representing the liberal view. I think it's time to rename the parties. Let's be honest, the democratic party today is NOT the democratic party of our fathers. And, in the same way, the republican party is NOT our father's republican party. We need to stop blurring the lines and make this choice black and white. I call for two new parties... the socialist party and the conservative party. That way, we will have a clearer picture of where people really stand and what they really believe in. From my perspective, those who are now choosing and pushing for socialism are willingly giving up their freedoms and essentially saying, the government knows what is good for me more than I do. Criticize, if you must, but I am choosing to be a Christian conservative who believes that my freedoms are God-given and should not be infringed upon or controlled by an ever-growing and out-of-control government. In my mind, a movement of our nation back toward the founders "IN GOD WE TRUST" is the only thing that will keep us moving in the right direction. Therein lies "hope for the future".

[willtill]

Politics is the art of compromise. Back room dope deals are made; to pass bills into laws. That's just the way it works in our system of government. The old way of doing business in Washington, DC needs to be shaken up. Trump is just the man to do that.

I am amazed that a country such as ours; cannot find and field candidates worthy of the Presidential nomination.

If I had done what Hillary had done with governmental email while I was in the military; i would've lost my security clearance and at a minimum; been discharged under less than favorable conditions. Here; we have a woman aspiring to be the POTUS and she doesn't even get so much as a bitch slap across the cheek for the very same.

I have no respect for anyone on this forum whom think that Hillary is qualified to be President of the United States. She's a lying, deceiving; angry, manipulating, anti-second amendment bitch whom will take the oath to defend and protect the constitution of the United States.... and then destroy it.

She'll lie right in front of the nation. And her bat shit crazy supporters will congratulate themselves and each other without actually realizing the decay they are accelerating for this once great country..

Different standards. There are those whom are above the law. Hillary is one. And we are powerless intervene about that.

[ReserveBum]

First let me say I have no dog in this fight, I'm not a Democrat, Republican or anything else, was a Conservative till about 10 years ago. Here is a statistic that will clear things up ... a little. While 0.6 percent of the U.S. adult population are lawyers, 41% of Congress are lawyers - that's 68 times the.national average. I don't know if you've had interactions with lawyers, I've had plenty, Criminal - civil- IRS - Family - Traffic etc.none pleasant,and I can tell you they are the lowest form of life there is. Their job is to create fear in you so you need them,,create a doomsday scenario so they can come in and save you, create the chaos then make it appear like only they have the answer - sound familiar. That is the template from which every politician is cast these day "Only I can save you, I'm going to D.C. and fight for you." What?

After you get elected and you go to Washington they sit you down in a room and say "Congratulations, we know you had to say a lot of things during the campaign to get elected, regarding what you were going to do when you came here, well, you're not going to do any of that. If you try to you will never chair, or even sit, on a committee and we will use the party coffers to run against you in the next election and you will be a one term Congressman / Senator / President.", it is the birth of a career politician.They are beholden to lobbyists, big donors (business) period. Former Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill used to say "Money is the mother's milk of politics."

Here comes a self-made billionaire, self funded, never ran for office and the first one he goes for is the Triple Crown, Grand Slam of the Presidency. You don't think these career politicians Clinton, Romney, Bush, Cruz, Biden are jealous, envious, bitter? They've planned this their whole lives - all the work, fund raising, kissing babies, kissing ass, mall openings etc. He has the audacity to enter their domain and go for the PRESIDENCY! More importantly, the 2 parties are scared to death because they have been entrenched in this system forever and they dismissed this guy out of hand and he's making a fool out of them. The parties, and their politicians, are united because Trump threatens their very existence. What if more people, like Trump, decide to run for office, these career politicians will have to leave DC and get a job. Lawyers are the most low self esteem, high ego people on the planet, this has them rattled down to their core, it's job security - for both parties and that's why they are united against him.You see, most politicians look to get power to become rich, Trump is already rich and powerful, it must be driving those lawyers CRAZY. His enemies are united against him.

The Founders never meant for there to be career politicians and that is why the turnover every 2 years for Congress, they had their fill of that with Parliament, I think they were on a 7 year term. They designed this government for regular people to come to Washington, serve and GO BACK HOME and be subject to the laws they passed, of which there are over 20 million, including regulations. Now you know why Congress has over 68 times more lawyers than the national average. The only way for the money to keep flowing is for them to constantly make criminals out of the rank and file. While we bicker over elections and candidates they sit back and dine in the fanciest restaurants, stay in the swankiest hotels, golf at the best courses and hand us the bill - exactly like lawyers do. All the while making it appear they are working. Remember, they are all in the same union, the BAR (British Accredited Registry) and their first obligation is ALWAYS to the court, i.e. why we have/will have so many laws. (Ex. 40,000 laws entered into the Federal Register on 1/1/11)

Say what you want about Trump but I've seen a LOT of kids inherit money or a business and within a year it is gone, forever. He managed to surpass his father, many times over, and now he is running for President, not bad for a contractor. You don't get to run a worlwide organization like his without the ability to identify brilliant, talented and dedicated leaders. He knows how to delegate his authority and to pick the right people for the job, and isn't that what a great leader does. Ask yourself this, when the Founders were thinking about what country they wanted to create, the ideas and ideals they had in mind when drafting those incredible documents that were the blueprint of the greatest experiment of freedom and opportunity in human history, who do you think fulfills that criteria more than anyone running. Who has benefited more from the freedoms and opportunities of America and whose lifestyle would not change one iota if they lost tomorrow. He goes home to Milenia, c'mon just nabbing that I'd crown him king.

Besides, when do you get a chance to piss off this many lawyers in one shot.

You know why lawyers wear neckties ----- it keeps the foreskin down

Well written and thought out. Thank you for that....If Trump is the nominee I will vote for him but I believe they will never let him win, even if he secures the popular vote. As you say, he is not a lawyer or part of the political machine. The Electoral College is always there for them.

[taxfree4]

The reason people vote for Hillary is because she drives the Republicans crazy, that's why the Liberals love her, and him. That is why the media aid and abet them in getting away with what they do by not investigating, never asking the serious quetions, or if they do they are scripted out with the answers. Republicans are held to a higher standard by the media AND their voters so the threshold is much higher. I was a Conservative in NY, separate party, and we are held to an even higher standard. If this email thing turns out to be the one thing the media cannot help her with you will see how fast these Liberals will eat their own. They'll drop her like a wet food stamp because the party is all that matters.

That is the beauty of Trump, he's giving the finger to both of them. The worst thing he ever did was to sign that pledge he would not run as an Independent because at the time he signed it he thought he would need them, he didn't. What he should do is like Reagan did, keep it simple - Reagan said I'm going to cut your taxes and rebuild the military. Those two things had such a ripple effect, domestically and internationally, it doubled the revenue going to the Treasury and brought down the Commies i.e. Star Wars, they couldn't keep up AND what scared them more than anything they knew Reagan would use it. Tell the American people "Year one I'm building the Wall and replacing Obama care immediately, year two etc." And in true Trump style he'll come in under budget and ahead of schedule. Just calculate what that wall will save us in one year in terms of jobs, food stamps, welfare etc. Then you start on the illegal ones already here receiving those benefits. Give them 6 months to get off or else their country of origin will be billed dollar for dollar, from our trade with them. You will see how fast they load up the Chebby Wagon and head toward Guadolahra.

If these illegals were white Europeans all the town criers i.e. Geraldo, Hillary, Rubio, Cruz et.al. would be at the forefront of stopping this invasion. But because it's future Democratic and "fence sitting" Republican voters, they're all for it. I would be just as vigilant if it were White Europeans, I'm an American born and raised and if Italy slid off the map tomorrow I'd eat a full meal and have a good night sleep, even though I still have relatives there. The worst phrase I hear from these post '64 Immigration Act immigrants is the phrase, when they talk about where they fled because of poverty, is "My country". They're here reaping the rewards of this land yet don't have an ounce of appreciation, loyalty or respect for the prosperity or accomplishments bestowed upon them. You have to wonder if a war breaks out with Mexico whose side will they be on, or will they all become Canadians, which isn't a bad idea.

I say give Trump a chance, if he fucks up, throw him out but if he does just 2 things, builds the wall and gets rid of Obamacare with health savings accounts, we are way ahead of the game. Voting for anybody else means putting a lawyer back in the most powerful position in the world, in other words, Obama will be getting a 3rd tetm, in essence. The scariest thing is that I am actually making sense on the forum, we're screwed fellas.

[Bob Penn]

As previously stated by others the one thing that scares me is, considering the size and population of this country, we can not come up with one honest, incorruptible man to run for the most prestigious position in this land. Maybe that's because only the wealthy can afford to run!!
Then again all the usual candidates come from just two very controlled parties. Perhaps that is why Trump is getting the following that he has been getting. The people see him as a hope that he will not be controllable by the machines we call our parties. But will he be honest? Only time and an election will tell. That is if the machine doesn't politically or physically assassinate him before he is even elected.
Hillary, is obviously part of the other machine with no hope of being honest or incorruptible. Scarier yet, if elected she plans to reinterpret the constitution.
Who should you vote for with a choice like that? HMMM.
Is this election really that important? When you consider the voters keep sending the same bought and paid for senators and congressmen back to Washington election after election. It's part of the good ole-boys rules you know. Here in PA we had one senator who wouldn't vote the way we thought he should and we threw him out of office. Next thing we knew he was running for president. Thank God the people were wise to him!
Therein may lie the real problem or solution. It is probably a good investment for an interested party to initially buy them when they keep coming back election after election and are in fact the ones who will vote on changes and add to the laws and bills that actually set the rules. How they vote is seldom reported on and few voters really know how their representatives are voting on bills, that is of course, if they even know who their representatives are.
When a president signs a bill of importance or vetoes one we usually all know how he voted and we can place the blame or credit on one man.
The real solution may be to pass a law highlighting any incumbent's name on the ballot form so we can vote any incumbent house member out of office after one term. It may then get too expensive for the interested parties to to buy them all. Think of how the parties would shudder if they had to reshuffle the deck every couple of years.

[Jim-oz]

My two cents worth, from an ex British and Australian Army veteran and citizen of both countries.

Firstly i don't want to sound like i am blowing smoke up your arses or being viewed as patronizing and i certainly don't profess to be an expert in politics or indeed anything for that matter but i would like to make a couple of points.

The world, particularly the western world needs a strong America regardless of which of your leaders can give you that, Trump seems to be the closest to achieving that. I have seen the UK become almost totally ruined by useless and weak politicians and now i see Australia going down the same path. My forefathers, all our forefathers, British, Australian and American fought to make our countries what they used to be, only to see anyone just walk in and both undermine the very fabric of what our nations are/were and in a lot of cases abuse the privilege or worse still hate us for it.

I'll say this, none of us are blind and your country [America] was never perfect [where is?] and has made some mistakes but without your support and strength in two world wars our countries would have been crushed. Who are we looking to now again as the world and especially the South China sea area deteriorates, America.

Who would i rather have as a world power,leader and friend. America.

Somewhat simplistic and possibly naive but I for one say, Thanks to you Americans. Stay strong for all our sake's.

Jim

[taxfree4]

So the GOP and Tech leaders are holding secret meetings to figure out how to stop Trump. They are scared to death this Trump Train is unstoppable. If they attempt this, first it will backfire on the Republicans and they will be voted out of Congress, by their voters staying home and switching to Independant, and they won't regain it for generations. Second, there will be a revolt at the convention the likes we have never seen. This is exciting times.

[stroguy]

This is exciting. There are two unwelcomed candidates in the race and they both have secured my vote when the time comes. I am so sick of the RNC. They have finally stopped calling looking for handouts. When they send me mail and it has a metered return envelope it gets all of my Cruz flyers returned. If I had Trump mailings they would get them as well. The Republican party is screwed and this secret island meeting just tightened the noose around their gizzards. I wish a painful death to the party that stabbed their base in the back. They stabbed us before they stabbed the likes of hillaree, reid, pelosi and the whole ignorant clan on the democrat side. GO INSURGENT this November

[Vondawg]

Well said truthspeak. And I've not seen many Dems that like to be around Conservatives they think we're uneducated, love our guns and religion, they're so touchy and irascible .

[shooter]

I got a new ticket for November. Tax/Stro.

[53driver]

I got a new ticket for November. Tax/Stro.

+1 !!!!!!!!

[taxfree4]

I got a new ticket for November. Tax/Stro.

If I'm elected:
Shooter will be in charge of the Secret Service, blowing shit up and tank chroming.

53Driver will be piloting Marine One and will be ordered by the President to hover 100 ft. above Tony's house at 3 a.m. twice a week. If he attempts to shoot at the aircraft you have Presidential immunity to take him out. Preferably, a groin shot would be much more painful and a lot funnier, make a field decision.

BGLRY will be Chief of Staff and Senior Advisor of the new Dept. Of BBQ, Beer and Entertainment.

First order of business - sign an Executive Order providing for funds to buy Tony an F6B.

[shooter]

Tax , I wish you was my neighbor. Dang we would have a good time. Wonder how much it costs to have an M1 Abrams triplechrome plated. Tax I really just wanted you. I threw Stro into the mix to satisfy the liberal tree huggers and the people that killed off Monday night Football.

[stroguy]

I promise to give free motorcycles to everyone, free gas, free tires, free slurpee's less that 43oz, 44 and above will be criminal, free ammunition to everyone after they register their firearms and place them in the national underground armory in Barrow AK, free knife sharpening on thanksforgiving day, free .......I'll get back to you on more free stuff as the election season continues.

[taxfree4]

The minute an Italian from Brooklyn moves in your neighborhood the for sale signs will go up. Once they see the Blessed Mother on the lawn it'll be a ghost town. Hey, Stroguy is my VP and a future Conservative once I get done with him. Hillary was a Goldwater girl at one time then she became Whitewater Ho.

[taxfree4]

Tax , I wish you was my neighbor. Dang we would have a good time. Wonder how much it costs to have an M1 Abrams triplechrome plated. Tax I really just wanted you. I threw Stro into the mix to satisfy the liberal tree huggers and the people that killed off Monday night Football.

Not as much as the American people paid for Biden's hair plugs, or Hillary's Spanx for a month (I just threw up in my mouth)

[Phantom]

If I'm elected:
Shooter will be in charge of the Secret Service, blowing shit up and tank chroming.

53Driver will be piloting Marine One and will be ordered by the President to hover 100 ft. above Tony's house at 3 a.m. twice a week. If he attempts to shoot at the aircraft you have Presidential immunity to take him out. Preferably, a groin shot would be much more painful and a lot funnier, make a field decision.

BGLRY will be Chief of Staff and Senior Advisor of the new Dept. Of BBQ, Beer and Entertainment.

First order of business - sign an Executive Order providing for funds to buy Tony an F6B.



funnychit.
:moon:

:f2: Make sure it's a 2016 White F6B, it will compliment my White GoldWing

[taxfree4]

Just when you think "They'll never have a picture of this on the internet".

[shooter]

That's the ticket right there Tax. Soon as I get a CT on the back and some V&H pipes she'll be good to go.'all/right'