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JBM Golf
10-17-2016, 12:05 PM
I would like input from some F6B owners. I am going to buy a F6B. I can buy a 2016 F6B Deluxe for $17000 plus tax and tag. I also found a 2014 Deluxe with 1300 miles, extended warranty, fog light, highway pegs and smoke turn signals. From what I have found out the only difference in the two bikes is cruise control and flat paint.

Which way would you go?

willtill
10-17-2016, 12:22 PM
I would like input from some F6B owners. I am going to buy a F6B. I can buy a 2016 F6B Deluxe for $17000 plus tax and tag. I also found a 2014 Deluxe with 1300 miles, extended warranty, fog light, highway pegs and smoke turn signals. From what I have found out the only difference in the two bikes is cruise control and flat paint.

Which way would you go?



Personally, I will never buy a used bike. You just don't know how it was treated.

F6Dave
10-17-2016, 12:35 PM
With the bargains out there on new ones, I'd sure get a new one. Having said that, a transferrable warranty does minimize the risk on a used one.

Double G
10-17-2016, 12:42 PM
I've bought several used. With as few miles on the 13 it would be very difficult to have any problems. I bought my 14 used a few months ago with 1900 miles and no problems. good luck & either way you will get a great bike, but again I wouldn't worry about buying the used one.

six2go
10-17-2016, 12:45 PM
Personally, I will never buy a used bike. You just don't know how it was treated.

That's how I feel too. On the flip side, I couldn't understand someone not wanting to buy mine since it gets the best of everything.:icon_razz:

Mudflap
10-17-2016, 12:52 PM
I would like input from some F6B owners. I am going to buy a F6B. I can buy a 2016 F6B Deluxe for $17000 plus tax and tag. I also found a 2014 Deluxe with 1300 miles, extended warranty, fog light, highway pegs and smoke turn signals. From what I have found out the only difference in the two bikes is cruise control and flat paint.

Which way would you go?

If it were me i would get the deluxe for 17k, good price plus cruise control.

DTOM
10-17-2016, 02:21 PM
I went on a 7000 mile ride on my '04 Goldwing with friends. Most of us had cruise control and one guy had a throttle lock on his 2013 F6B. I nick named him Yo-Yo. He was constantly having to speed up or slow down to stay with the group. Quite annoying if he was out in front requiring me to constantly adjust my cruising speed. When I got home, I was in the market for the F6B, but it had to be 2015 or newer. No way I'm dealing with a throttle lock on those longer rides. Some guys don't want "sloppy seconds"...but if the bike has low mileage and warranty, the savings is worth the risk in my opinion. I felt like I scored on my 2015 Deluxe for $14K. The seller purchased it new in April 2016, put 2600 miles on it, added a bunch of cool stuff, and needed to sell 5 months later for whatever reason. It was pristine and under warranty. No regrets. The deals (new or used) are out there.

copper
10-17-2016, 06:03 PM
I picked my 2013 off the previous owner with 15,000 km's, all of the right accessories and the windshield I wanted, and an extended warranty....it's now got 25,000 km's, and still runs like it's brand new. Couldn't be happier.

Good luck with your choice!!

opas ride
10-17-2016, 07:03 PM
I have only purchased one used bike way back in 1974..A Honda 450 twin...Low miles and turned out to be okay....As far as used F6B's go I would not hesitate to buy a low mileage used one as most owners of this bike will most likely take decent care of it...Very little goes wrong with this machine and used ones, as well as older model new ones are going for " give away prices" and seem to be readily available for sale....Good luck and ride safe...

adventurous1
10-18-2016, 10:08 PM
NEVER NEVER NEVER purchase a 'new' vehicle - unless you can afford the cost of depreciation as soon as you drive it off the lot. And NEVER purchase a new anything (except a house) with 'credit'. Credit is a fools game. If you cannot afford a bike - when I say afford, I mean pay cash, then you cannot afford the bike.

Most cars - aside from some Jeep products - lose 40 to 50 % of the value in a few short years. Unless you don't work hard for your $$$$, shop wisely.

Picked up a used '06 roadliner for 6K, and have put 45K more miles on it over the last 4 yrs. From Southern Cal to Banff - and all around the western side of the rockies - and NOT one thing has gone wrong. NOTHING. 8 months of the year I use it for commuting to work (Southern Cal weather). Looking to trade it in for a used '16 Indian classic come next Jan / Feb when someone needs to sell a bike. And, there is ALWAYS SOMEONE who's desperately need of cash and will sell their bike. Just have patience.

Last March, I picked up my '13 B for 11K cash. Had 4K miles and warranty until Nov 2017. Flew into AZ, gave the guy cash, and rode it home. Perfect 80 degree day riding thru the desert. Put about 12K miles on it this summer all around the western states, and 1 trip across the county. AND, when I purchased the B, the guy left both the title and receipt BLANK- as per my condition of purchasing the bike. So when I registered it in California, I put 5K down as the purchase price. Saved another $ 600 in sales tax. lol

6 yrs ago, I flew into Vegas to look at a Jeep Wrangler. (3 Jeeps in my life - must like those things). Guy was about to fly back east for a job transfer - had to sell his Jeep by the end of the week. Had seen it for sell in auto trader for a month. The guy couldn't sell it at 18K. I offered him 15K cash. He looked at me like I was joking. But guess what - yup, he took the cash deal. Again, left the title and receipt BLANK. I've put 60K plus more miles on it. Brakes, tires, oil - THAT'S IT!! Oh, when I registered it California - yup, wrote 6K down as the purchase price. Saved about 1K in sales tax.

Always pay cash. Saves you LOTS of $$$$. In late 2017 or 2018 I'll probably purchase a perfect shape used GT convertable Mustang. It'll be 3 or 4 years old - in perfect shape - and HALF the price of new. lol lol

Broken Hand
10-20-2016, 11:02 AM
I bought a used '14 with 13k miles for $12.5k. I've put 4K miles on it without issue. It's really hard to buy a Goldwing lemon, IMO.

You could probably pay a mechanic couple of $100 to check it over. You'll still come out way ahead, if money matters to you.

Texas TC
10-20-2016, 01:32 PM
Honda is one brand of motorcycle I would have no issues buying used. The technology may not be state of the art but, mechanically, they are superior.

jim62463
10-22-2016, 06:55 PM
I just bought a 2015 F6B Deluxe with 1,600 miles for $12,000.00 with 2 years warranty left on it. Alot cheaper than $$17,000.00.

blackmetoc
10-22-2016, 07:26 PM
What is the price differential. You said the used one had less than 2k on it? I doubt it was treated poorly at all, especially if it was kept in a garage. I bought mine used with 5800 miles, but he had already put a lot of the extras I would have put on. You can get a -------- for 850 USD, or so. You can have it put on, or do it yourself. But yes, I do love having a cruise controlled bike. I would go used if the price difference made it worth it.

pitcherd
10-23-2016, 07:04 AM
With the depreciation of Motorcycles I would look at a used with low mileage and transferable warranty. If you can let someone else take the $4k hit for a year old bike then you are a head in the game. Even if you don't end up liking the bike you won't loose that much.

Old Ryder
10-23-2016, 11:30 AM
It has to do with the way they are treated. I have only bought 3 new bikes in my life, but all were Hondas. The reason was a super price on a new bike and yes, the F6B was one of them.

HOWEVER, I don't hesitate to buy a used bike from an individual, but I want to know something about the bike and who I am buying it from. Most of the B owners here are not 18 year old punks with orange hair. I would NOT buy a Busa from that 18 year old with orange hair, but I would like to hear just one guy who says he would not buy a used bike say that his F6B has been abused and would be a bad deal. So the type of bike also has something to do with it.

That being said, it depends more on who has owned it than if it has been owned before.

In other words, a 2 year old F6B being owned by a 60 year old geezer with 15K on the clock is a better bet than a 1 year old F6B with 3K that was used as a demo bike. Which do you think has been treated better????

Still, it is hard to kill a Honda--no matter how hard you try.

JMartin
10-23-2016, 12:56 PM
... it depends more on who has owned it than if it has been owned before.

Never a better truth spoken.

Jimmytee
10-23-2016, 02:44 PM
In other words, a 2 year old F6B being owned by a 60 year old geezer with 15K on the clock is a better bet than a 1 year old F6B with 3K that was used as a demo bike. Which do you think has been treated better????.

:icon_lol::icon_lol: I've ridden with some 60 plus geezers that thrash the hell out of their bikes.

Old Ryder
10-23-2016, 08:27 PM
:icon_lol::icon_lol: I've ridden with some 60 plus geezers that thrash the hell out of their bikes.


Are you talking about you?????? :lolup: I'll try to remember that when your bike comes up for sale. :icon_lol:

DTOM
10-23-2016, 09:01 PM
I just bought a 2015 F6B Deluxe with 1,600 miles for $12,000.00 with 2 years warranty left on it. Alot cheaper than $$17,000.00.

Score!

stroguy
10-23-2016, 09:03 PM
JBM Golf has also just scored a new used B.

Old Ryder
10-23-2016, 09:05 PM
JBM Golf has also just scored a new used B.


Yeaaa!!!!!!!! :icon_cool:

JBM Golf
10-24-2016, 07:30 AM
Yes I did, I decided to buy a very nice 2014 F6B. 1340 miles with some very nice accessories. I couldn't be happier.

http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s587/Levelpar1/Mobile%20Uploads/B0544C5E-4C7E-4921-AA80-EFD92AD41DAD_zps06ixxdzi.jpg (http://s1307.photobucket.com/user/Levelpar1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/B0544C5E-4C7E-4921-AA80-EFD92AD41DAD_zps06ixxdzi.jpg.html)

adventurous1
10-25-2016, 02:36 PM
Congrats !!!!!

Hey, what windshield did it come with and what is the height?

JBM Golf
10-25-2016, 07:43 PM
I believe it's a Honda windshield with the vent. I don't know the height. I will measure it tomorrow morning. Here is a better picture.

http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s587/Levelpar1/Mobile%20Uploads/53A989B3-DD79-49DE-8E2F-D1EE74F10820_zpszn90dnwn.jpg (http://s1307.photobucket.com/user/Levelpar1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/53A989B3-DD79-49DE-8E2F-D1EE74F10820_zpszn90dnwn.jpg.html)

adventurous1
10-26-2016, 12:04 PM
I believe it's a Honda windshield with the vent. I don't know the height. I will measure it tomorrow morning. Here is a better picture.

http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s587/Levelpar1/Mobile%20Uploads/53A989B3-DD79-49DE-8E2F-D1EE74F10820_zpszn90dnwn.jpg (http://s1307.photobucket.com/user/Levelpar1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/53A989B3-DD79-49DE-8E2F-D1EE74F10820_zpszn90dnwn.jpg.html)

Cool. Let me know.

NAHD
10-29-2016, 05:14 PM
Test rode a 14 Valkyrie with 1300 miles. Price was 11. 5K. Love that kind of depreciation. May have to get it to go along with the B.

JBM Golf
10-31-2016, 03:02 PM
Congrats !!!!!

Hey, what windshield did it come with and what is the height?

From the top of the faring to the top of the windshield it's 15.5 inches.

JMartin
11-01-2016, 10:31 AM
I'm watching the market pretty closely... all over the U.S. (eBay, Craigslist, Cycle Trader, multiple forums, etc...) and it's interesting. Many brand new bikes out there at dealerships down to $13,499 (2015) and $16k-17k (2016). There are still people trying to get out from under some basically brand new bikes (less than 1500 miles) and are still asking $18,500... it's just not going to happen. There is one in particular that I am interested in, which is the year and color I want, and within 150 miles of me, but I hasten to offer him the fair market value, because it is $3500 less than he's asking. I mean, I don't want to be labeled a low-baller... but really.

Good thing I'm not in a hurry.

DTOM
11-01-2016, 11:47 AM
I'm watching the market pretty closely... all over the U.S. (eBay, Craigslist, Cycle Trader, multiple forums, etc...) and it's interesting. Many brand new bikes out there at dealerships down to $13,499 (2015) and $16k-17k (2016). There are still people trying to get out from under some basically brand new bikes (less than 1500 miles) and are still asking $18,500... it's just not going to happen. There is one in particular that I am interested in, which is the year and color I want, and within 150 miles of me, but I hasten to offer him the fair market value, because it is $3500 less than he's asking. I mean, I don't want to be labeled a low-baller... but really.

Good thing I'm not in a hurry.

You're not a low-baller if your offer is fair. You would think that seller knows what else is out there on the market. Doesn't hurt to ask...the answer is always no if you don't ask.

stroguy
11-01-2016, 12:14 PM
If you are emailing the person selling, include a link to a dealer price for one.

adventurous1
11-01-2016, 01:43 PM
I'm watching the market pretty closely... all over the U.S.....Many brand new bikes out there at dealerships down to $13,499 (2015) and $16k-17k (2016). There are still people trying to get out from under some basically brand new bikes (less than 1500 miles) and are still asking $18,500... it's just not going to happen. .... I mean, I don't want to be labeled a low-baller... but really.

Yes, but really. If any seller doesn't want to accept a fair market offer (especially in cash) the seller is not serious about selling the bike......or, unfortunately the seller's too emotionally attached to the price he wants and not accepting reality that the depreciation on these bikes is rapidly plummeting.

The dealer who has a 2015 B for 13.5 now will probably be 12.5 K in February. Dealers are going to be monstrously discounting these bikes December, January, and February.

Btw, that means a private party used 13 could be down to 9K.....or even less.

adventurous1
11-01-2016, 01:50 PM
From the top of the faring to the top of the windshield it's 15.5 inches.

Thanks. Use a 14 inch this summer and it's just a little too short. probably go with a 16 inch next summer.....which should still allow some wind in my face.

JMartin
11-01-2016, 01:57 PM
Yes, but really. When people show any serious seller what the going market is for new and used.....and that you'll pay a comparable price, if that seller doesn't want to take your offer it just goes to show you he's not really serious about selling his bike......or, he's too emotionally attached to the price and not accepting reality that the depreciation on these bikes is rapidly plummeting.

The dealer who has a 2015 B for 13.5 now will probably be 12.5 K in February. Dealers are going to be monstrously discounting these bikes December, January, and February.

Btw, that means a private party used 13 could be down to 9K.....or even less.

Yes, agreed.
Per the seller I'm referring to, "Injury forces sale," I just don't want to add insult to injury.
I know what it's like to be on the backside of HUGE medical bills.

Old Ryder
11-01-2016, 02:26 PM
For a while I made a few bucks flipping bikes--just 2 or 3 per year. One thing I have learned is that deals happen when you are standing in front of somebody with a stack of hundred bills.

To quote Richard Rollings, "I can buy cars that are worth $10,000 for $5,000 all day if you have cash". Same applies to motorcycles if the seller is serious. I would tell them up front that I am buying for resale and if I can't make a profit, then I can't buy it. I have yet to be turned down.

Jimmytee
11-01-2016, 04:56 PM
Test rode a 14 Valkyrie with 1300 miles. Price was 11. 5K. Love that kind of depreciation. May have to get it to go along with the B.

$11.5 is too much from prices I've seen them go for. I'd be offering 10.:icon_wink:

Felloverboard
11-01-2016, 05:21 PM
$11.5 is too much from prices I've seen them go for. I'd be offering 10.:icon_wink:

I have seen a brand new 14 Valk for 9999.

Blk6bgg6
11-01-2016, 09:12 PM
Man, guys deprEssington seeing what our bikes value has become.Just had nice spirited ride tonight and so glad I really like this motorcycle.I bought to keep an that continues..The big story always harley resale yet I wonder ,especially the last 10 years with the flooded market of them.be safe an no not ready to winterize yet these things just to rideable..

adventurous1
11-02-2016, 10:02 PM
Late fall / winter is never a good time to sell a bike w/ a desire to receive top dollar. An asset is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Yes, no one wants to pour salt in a wound; however, the B's a depreciating asset - and the longer he waits w/ prices of new dropping, he may never get even a decent offer again. At least you're giving him some $$$$ he may desperately need.

The B's were overpriced to begin with. Should have been 17K max. Purchased my B used for 11K cash w/ 4K miles on it. Picked it up being pretty sure Honda would not continue this model, but wanted it for long distance touring purposes - and riding w/ a lady friend - and it's been phenomenal. Plan on keeping it for quite some time - the bike, NOT THE LADY FRIEND. lol

Have my customer Roadliner for around town, and I'll probably be getting rid of the liner for a Indian classic or a thunder mountain custom.

olegoat345
11-17-2016, 07:31 PM
There's several nice used bikes ob this site & on cycletrader, plenty in FL. and over your way. Dealers are going to stick it to you for dealer fees. I'm closing on a used 13 with lots of goodies on Monday. Saving about 8k & getting lots of goodies already on it.