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taxfree4
11-09-2016, 02:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHJoj9IqeKg

Trump, single-handedly, brought down the Bush/Clinton dynasty. Man do I feel bad for Bill Clinton.

53driver
11-09-2016, 03:27 AM
Why? Once she is convicted of her crimes, he's a geographic bachelor.

taxfree4
11-09-2016, 03:33 AM
Just for tonight, that Diesel Dike is probably chasing him around the home in Chappaqua with her broom trying vent her anger, and he a'int looking too healthy lately. Also, now that Janet Reno died I wonder who Hillary will team up with, now that she can come out of the closet, and ride off into the sunset in their pick up truck and Birckenstocks.

ths61
11-09-2016, 04:33 AM
Congratulations America, it has been a long, tough 8 years.

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wjduke
11-09-2016, 05:22 AM
You called it, taxfree, against quite a few naysayers.

taxfree4
11-09-2016, 05:46 AM
I'm just glad I'll never see her in a pant suit again, man that was painful. The funniest is to go online and watch all the Clinton voters crying including the men, maryasses. And the best part is that beautiful hunk of Yugoslavian strudel of a First Lady. 11 years ago she was just another model showing her tits, now she's banging the President, legitimately. The worst people to be this morning is John Kasich and Meghan Kelly, ouch. I say use the Trump plane to fly Cher, George Cooney, Barry Diller, AL Sharpton, Whoopi Goldberg and Raven Simon out of the US and while it's in the air - shoot it down, it's OK he can afford another one.

willtill
11-09-2016, 06:01 AM
http://i66.tinypic.com/ip7a5z.jpg

Just goes to show you how the media tried to influence the election with their deceiving poll numbers and speculation towards a "favored" candidate. :jerkit:

Trump is far better than that lying criminal bitch that tried to make it to the top; but Trump handily slapped her back down.

Our Supreme Court will now be safe from the liberal ideology. :icon_cool:

I for one, am proud to be an American once again. We will have a juggernaut in the White House... and control of our Congress. We will have a President once again whom won't bow down to other leaders in the world... unlike that gumby looking P.O.S. POTUS whom is still residing there. Time for Obama to be evicted from Government housing :clap2:

Dancing in the streets... Today is a good day for all Americans. :yes:

ReserveBum
11-09-2016, 06:43 AM
I have to say I am pleasantly shocked. Never thought it would happen. Never thought "they" would let it happen. Gotta go listen to those liberal asshats on NPR crying...its a great day!

Retired Army
11-09-2016, 08:24 AM
America has spoken with a thundering voice, it's time to mover her forward.

taxfree4
11-09-2016, 08:24 AM
More importantly is the House and Senate are Republican and the Supreme Court seats. Let's face it Ginsburg is near death, Breyer and Kennedy are right behind and the seat vacated by Obama whacking Scalia makes 4. Ted Cruz is licking Trump's boots this morning for a nomination as we speak. Also watch for all those bullshit pollsters squirming in their seats trying to explain why they still matter, because they never did, because they're all full of shit.

willtill
11-09-2016, 08:49 AM
More importantly is the House and Senate are Republican and the Supreme Court seats. Let's face it Ginsburg is near death, Breyer and Kennedy are right behind and the seat vacated by Obama whacking Scalia makes 4. Ted Cruz is licking Trump's boots this morning for a nomination as we speak. Also watch for all those bullshit pollsters squirming in their seats trying to explain why they still matter, because they never did, because they're all full of shit.

Yes... very important to renew the Supreme Court with Judges whom are not activists.

opas ride
11-09-2016, 10:34 AM
I am so elated that the American people "finally came to their senses"....As Rush Limbaugh said this morning it is stunning that so many people were so wrong for such a long time about what is really important for America!!!!I hope that Trump lives up to his commitments and offers, and succeeds,with some much needed real change for our country..Obama was, and is, the worst President in the history of America, in my opinion, and my last message to him and Hillary and the rest of these "left wing radical socialists liars" is Good Riddance!!!

stroguy
11-09-2016, 11:18 AM
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Bush's and clintoons are done. Let's move on. I served under Reagan and Bush1 and was proud to serve under both pro military Presidents.

A great day for America and Americans.

Broken Hand
11-09-2016, 11:30 AM
The way Podesta came out, told the crowd to go home because there are still "lots of votes to count", then 10 minutes later Hillary concedes, sums up her campaign.

Weak.

Republicans gained 2 Governor seats for a total of 33.
Senate held on to Republican control.
2018 bulk of Democrat Senate seats are up.

Watch out!

Congrats Trump

PS: Dow futures were down 700 points last night. Up 42 this morning last I checjed. Another veiled threat against the American people never materialized.

seventwenty
11-09-2016, 11:48 AM
What's scary is that it looks like she had the most votes. Not by much but that means that at least half the people in this country are OK with the BS that was happening.:icon_frown:

willtill
11-09-2016, 11:57 AM
Just watched her condescension speech. That old witch is as bitter as ever. Spoke to "her" supporters, not to all Americans.

Eff her. The country HAS made a better choice.

stroguy
11-09-2016, 12:01 PM
Just watched her condescension speech. That old witch is as bitter as ever. Spoke to "her" supporters, not to all Americans.

Eff her. The country HAS made a better choice.

Yep, you could see the vitriol coming from her lips. Never a mention of doing better for veterans.......fing nothing. It was continuance of the unfairness of America. Good riddance to a parasite. Next stop...UHaul at the back door of the White House. You two get out and take your criticism of this great land with you.

ths61
11-09-2016, 12:11 PM
Time to:


Lock her up.
Drain the swamp.
Build the wall.
Replace BHONoCare.
Fill some SCOTUS seats.
Close the Clinton Crime Foundation.
Restore the Second Amendment.

F6B1911
11-09-2016, 12:20 PM
What's scary is that it looks like she had the most votes. Not by much but that means that at least half the people in this country are OK with the BS that was happening.:icon_frown:

Nah, that half of the country doesn't have a clue.

shortleg0521
11-09-2016, 02:20 PM
I'm just glad I'll never see her in a pant suit again, man that was painful. The funniest is to go online and watch all the Clinton voters crying including the men, maryasses. And the best part is that beautiful hunk of Yugoslavian strudel of a First Lady. 11 years ago she was just another model showing her tits, now she's banging the President, legitimately. The worst people to be this morning is John Kasich and Meghan Kelly, ouch. I say use the Trump plane to fly Cher, George Cooney, Barry Diller, AL Sharpton, Whoopi Goldberg and Raven Simon out of the US and while it's in the air - shoot it down, it's OK he can afford another one.

Give them all a police escorts the he'll out of here !!!!!!!

Steve 0080
11-09-2016, 06:43 PM
I feel like we/the country has won the lottery !!! I said back a few months ago he would win huge and it came true!!!! SOOOOOOOOOOO Happy !!!

Dirtstiff's F6B
11-09-2016, 06:52 PM
Now its Frick in time to empty out the old closet hangers...
And, we should see a whole bunch of the media and popular press, who called this race, go out in flames.

willtill
11-09-2016, 07:03 PM
I feel like we/the country has won the lottery !!! I said back a few months ago he would win huge and it came true!!!! SOOOOOOOOOOO Happy !!!

I am very happy and elated as well Steve. I went to bed last night not wanting to watch the electoral returns. My wife stayed downstairs (she was sick with a cold) and stayed up... she came up this morning at about 3am to get another pillow and told me "Trump won"... I immediately was JOLTED from my half sleep and was like "What"? She repeated it and I was immediately wide awake... ran down the stairs and looked at the TV... couldn't believe my eyes...! Holy crap! :shock:

I've spent a large part of my day and evening today through breaks at work antagonizing liberals on other message boards.... :icon_lol: I haven't felt this good since my first blow job :shhh: Evah
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53driver
11-09-2016, 08:21 PM
One of my USNA classmates who has done VERY well in business wrote this at 0500 this morning, EST.
Just some final thoughts on where this country is right now, and why yesterday was good, but we shouldn't be "happy" - yet.

Last night was the most fun I have had since I opened this blog a few years ago… I crawled into bed at 4 a.m. about has happy as I have been in a while.
But I couldn’t sleep. I got up a couple of times… and my happiness turned to anger. Yes, anger.
Why?
Because as I listened to the likes of MSNBC and CNN, perused the so-called newspapers WaPo and NY Times, and surfed around the Facebook walls of my left leaning to liberal to “progressive” (I hate that term) friends, THEY STILL DON’T GET IT.
Over the last 8 years, starting with “I won” and “Elections have consequences”, the left and Obama have been jamming shit sandwiches down our throats while blaming everything that happened on George W. Bush, who, by the way, has been ridiculously gracious this whole time. Laced in there were "teachable moments" because Too Cool for School Obama and his liberal nonsense knew better than we did about how the world worked.
A man named Obama, who had more political capital on earth to unite a nation, decided to “fundamentally transform” it in to his left ideas and policies. And if the voices of the people, who elect their officials to vote for them in the House and Senate, didn’t like what he was trying to do? Executive Order. He will just “go around Congress”. He injected himself, with another over-politicized individual named Eric Holder, in to every single issue of blacks vs. whites, ending up on the wrong side of the argument in almost every case. And he wanted another four years jammed down our throat as he was literally trying to tie Donald Trump to the KKK just last week, showing ZERO class.
But today? I see it was “The Russians”. It was “Comey”. It was Wikileaks. It was the deplorable, xenophobic, misogynistic, Islamophobic, blah blah blah fucking blah.
I haven’t read about the fact that Mrs. Clinton REPEATEDLY lied to the American people; created a private server to skirt FOIA laws while endangering the secrets of the United States (yes people… even one classified message violates the law); was exposed by Wikileaks of all places to be engaging in pay-for-play selling of the office of the Secretary of State; called those who exposed all these things “deplorables”, xenophobic, blah blah blah. No… it wasn’t any of this… it was the “sources”. And that is just scratching the surface.
I haven’t read about the nonsense that is taking place on our campuses with safe spaces and trigger points and nonsense slanders conducted against anyone right of center while canceling the speeches of those who rail against this. I fear for the adaptability of our children to the real world.
I haven’t read about the content of Wikileaks exposing the sliming of the American public, conduct of corruption, etc. We STILL are only hearing about the Russians, of which we have ZERO evidence they are involved.
I haven’t read about all the misinformation that was jammed down our throats, passed exactly along party lines, and then legislated from the bench of the SCOTUS calling it a “tax”, though were told repeatedly it wasn’t a tax…. All regarding the (un)Affordable Care Act now known as Obamacare. I haven’t read about how when the Massachusetts health care exchanges were malfunctioning, Obama and Deval Patrick arranged for 300K people to received temporary Medicaid coverage without any verification of eligibility.
I haven’t read that it was becoming clear that the DoJ and the FBI were becoming politicized as Comey tried to thread the political needle days after Bill Clinton met Loretta Lynch on the tarmac in Phoenix.
I haven’t read about Red Lines in the Sand, nor the humiliation of our sailors in Iran after giving away the house in the worse “deal” in the history of the world, allowing one of the biggest if not THE biggest State sponsor of Terrorism back in the game when we had them on the ropes. This doesn’t include possible ransom payments or the fact that money was laundered and delivered in the middle of the night.
I haven’t read about the mistreatment of Veterans around the country while at the same time currying favors to illegal aliens.
I haven’t read about Terry McAuliffe pardoning 60,000 people to get them on the voter rolls.
I haven’t read about ALL THE SCANDALS
Let’s start with Fast and Furious where Obama claimed Executive Privilege.
I haven’t read about the IRS scandal targeting of conservative groups, while Lois Lerner has never been punished. They require us to save 7 years of taxes, but they lost all their emails. In fact, other than Wasserman-Schultz and Donna Brazile, who lost their jobs, name a time anyone associated with this Administration has EVER been held accountable for ANYTHING.
I haven’t read about Benghazi scandal, where a bullshit reason was concocted prior to the last election, regardless of the fact it was on 9/11 and Hillary emailed her daughter saying it was a terrorist attack.
I haven’t read about the Obama Administration scandal of snooping in to the phone records of AP reporters looking for leaks, and accusing James Rosen of Fox of criminal activity so they could do the same to him.
I haven’t read where Obama would call Republicans the enemies of the United States, while calling ISIS the JV team.
I haven’t read, of course, about how the media was SOOOO dishonest and the public began to hate them.
No, people, it is Comey’s fault. It is the f’ing Russians fault. It is Julian Assange’s fault. Are you kidding me? THEY STILL DO NOT GET IT. The smug, elitist left and media STILL DO NOT GET IT.
Maybe, just maybe, we won’t spend another four years being sliced and diced in to every category but “American”. Maybe, just maybe, the media will look at themselves collectively in the mirror and start doing their job reporting the news, not creating it through their world view. Maybe idiots like Van Jones, who on CNN last night said that this was a “white lash against a black President” will disappear to a gutter where they belong. People like him are DISGUSTING.
I still believe that Trump was the wrong messenger. But I love the message. Drain the damn swamp. Get rid of all these special interests that dominate our politics. Get rid of the burdensome regulations and taxes that are strangling our businesses under the guise of “fairness”. Start calling people Americans. Bring our jobs back.
And Make America Great Again

This was my repsonse to that post:
Thanks shipmate. I try to let the water under the bridge flow, but in doing so, I'm willfully overlooking a lot of sh*t in that river that shouldn't have been there in the first place and I condone the bad behavior by not addressing it, let alone not at least attempting to fix it.

Our country has been through some very tough times and while the first "surgery" to heal her is completed and a success, there are several more surgeries to be successfully completed. After every surgery, there is recovery time so that the next surgery can go well. But that doesn't mean we can lose track of time in implementing the surgery schedule. What needs to be done, needs to be done in a timely, effective manner. Work with your representatives and let them know how they are doing. Put their office on speed dial and hit it once a week just to talk.
We need to make this healing process work.
Cheers,
Steve

Blk6bgg6
11-09-2016, 08:47 PM
YEEEEEHAWWWWWW ! Please please please u socialistic commy actors,actresses, and athletes that think u matter so much get the hell out! The American people have said enough to liberal bullshit.And hey ,you bitches on the View...HA Ha Ha

taxfree4
11-09-2016, 09:25 PM
Funny stuff



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qth3kQKaTX0

stroguy
11-09-2016, 11:10 PM
My God, to invest so much emotion in this. People are hurting from obozo. And, hillaree would never fix it......never. Were those grown men as well? We're those grown American men? I think the term pussy is applicable, a grown man crying because a liar didn't make it, a thief, a corrupt witch. And she didn't have the courage to come out at 3AM to talk to her flock. Classless. She asked, begged podesta to do it. She was already making the call to Trump, but she didn't have the stomach to come out. Pure evil witch. Everyone has a better shot with a 4 year Trump experiment. Go Trump, Go America!

Steve 0080
11-10-2016, 12:02 AM
I am having some trouble understanding the young ones protesting in CA... are they afraid of losing their gay rights or what. What exactly was obumma and killary going to do for them? Free everything ?

taxfree4
11-10-2016, 05:56 AM
And now a word from our new First Lady: (insert anything you like I just like looking at this kleiner, runder kuchen and she pretties up the forum)

willtill
11-10-2016, 05:57 AM
I am having some trouble understanding the young ones protesting in CA... are they afraid of losing their gay rights or what. What exactly was obumma and killary going to do for them? Free everything ?

They are uninformed of the real issues critically important to our country. They're willfully ignorant and I regard them as so.

So they demonstrate and riot. As a baby would have a tantrum. If you ignore the baby long enough... it will soon exhaust itself and go back to sleep.

willtill
11-10-2016, 05:59 AM
And now a word from our new First Lady

One of the best ever. So heartening to have a "nice on the eyes" female of our species whom will grace the White House. She'll do more as a role model for abstaining from obesity, than that horrible woman currently acting as the First Lady.

stroguy
11-10-2016, 07:53 AM
They are uninformed of the real issues critically important to our country. They're willfully ignorant and I regard them as so.

So they demonstrate and riot. As a baby would have a tantrum. If you ignore the baby long enough... it will soon exhaust itself and go back to sleep.

Well it's a shame that they are burning and destroying the same places that were burned after the 2008 and 2012 Presidential election.

willtill
11-10-2016, 08:24 AM
Well it's a shame that they are burning and destroying the same places that were burned after the 2008 and 2012 Presidential election.


As the Mayor of Baltimore City "Princess Lipstick" said during the riots last year, in so many words; "give them room, for a place to burn". :icon_rolleyes:

hardtail
11-10-2016, 11:09 AM
I am having some trouble understanding the young ones protesting in CA... are they afraid of losing their gay rights or what. What exactly was obumma and killary going to do for them? Free everything ?

Spoiled kids with no responsibility. They think they are ENTITLED to what they want. Do not comprehend the meaning of work to get what you need.

3Chief
11-10-2016, 01:21 PM
Not that I disagree with what's been said so far here...However, where's the counter argument? We go full flame on oil or darkside or anything yet nobody is defending Obama/Clinton... I either find myself in the most enlightened company or there are a bunch of backstabbing cowards who are afraid to offer a counter point and are out rioting floating around here somewhere. Part of the founding of this country was compromise, yet we just don't seem to do it anymore. It's all one way or the other. A great deal more people would be happier if we all worked together vs doing everything in our power to obstruct the process instead of finding common ground to work from. And that's both sides of the aisle.

stroguy
11-10-2016, 03:43 PM
Is compromise in their repertoire?

http://www.nh1.com/news/watch-man-attacked-dragged-by-car-because-he-voted-for-donald-trump/#.WCTatYqYzlY.email

Steve 0080
11-10-2016, 03:59 PM
Not that I disagree with what's been said so far here...However, where's the counter argument? We go full flame on oil or darkside or anything yet nobody is defending Obama/Clinton... I either find myself in the most enlightened company or there are a bunch of backstabbing cowards who are afraid to offer a counter point and are out rioting floating around here somewhere. Part of the founding of this country was compromise, yet we just don't seem to do it anymore. It's all one way or the other. A great deal more people would be happier if we all worked together vs doing everything in our power to obstruct the process instead of finding common ground to work from. And that's both sides of the aisle.

I hear ya... my confusion is I know grown people who are saying they are afraid of the US right now. Sorry I just do not understand, then the talking heads on CNN were saying that this was "white lash" "in part of Obama". Where do these people come up with this stuff? To my thinking it is all about which side is in power. We are all in the same boat going the same direction but each side wants to drive and blame the other if there is a ripple in the water.

Unfortunately we have many on the board who only read and not comment to much because they feel they are outnumbered I guess. All opinions are welcome here. The only rule we have is you cannot take it to personal level.

unsub
11-10-2016, 04:30 PM
Not that I disagree with what's been said so far here...However, where's the counter argument? We go full flame on oil or darkside or anything yet nobody is defending Obama/Clinton... I either find myself in the most enlightened company or there are a bunch of backstabbing cowards who are afraid to offer a counter point and are out rioting floating around here somewhere. Part of the founding of this country was compromise, yet we just don't seem to do it anymore. It's all one way or the other. A great deal more people would be happier if we all worked together vs doing everything in our power to obstruct the process instead of finding common ground to work from. And that's both sides of the aisle.

If you have a counter argument, I'm listening. The people voted.

3Chief
11-10-2016, 04:42 PM
If you have a counter argument, I'm listening.

I don't that's why I was questioning it, although for the sake of argument I suppose I could find one. My personal belief is there's good points to both sides and if they'd actually compromise on some things we'd all be better off for it. And by both sides I mean democrats and republicans, Mrs. Clinton is a criminal as far as I'm concerned. I also cannot find anything nice to say about Obama. Hence why I'd like to see an intelligible rebuttal to the things that have been said here already.

taxfree4
11-10-2016, 06:35 PM
Kids say the darnest things

Vondawg
11-10-2016, 06:55 PM
If you run on ideas and a record amount of citizens vote for you...for your ideas...showing you that's what the voters want and agree with, why would you do things the way the left says is fair? Suicide? Past experience would show you, like Obama doing Exec. Orders - going around congress- when he couldn't get congressional approval...we have a good side that they will stomp on when your gaurd is down. History shows so don't forget.

taxfree4
11-11-2016, 02:18 AM
These freaks are such great entertainment, unfortunately I'm surrounded by them here in NYC where this was filmed. They are already starting the "narrative" that this was an anger generated vote by uneducated, white rednecks. When gays, minorities, women or any other protected class vote in a block it's courageous, American, celebrated and even encouraged yet whenever the silent majority rises up, because they've had enough it's the Apocolypse.
Climate change is based on the same computer models that told them Hillary was going to win.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1hg6VrXcjg

wjduke
11-11-2016, 05:19 AM
Has anyone heard the latest movement? My cousins son posted this on FB...There might be a push to have the Electoral College voters change their vote and try that way to get Hillary in. Supposedly, this is possible, although I'm not sure it's ever happened.

https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19?recruiter=626356175&utm_campaign=signature_receipt&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition

willtill
11-11-2016, 06:24 AM
Has anyone heard the latest movement? My cousins son posted this on FB...There might be a push to have the Electoral College voters change their vote and try that way to get Hillary in. Supposedly, this is possible, although I'm not sure it's ever happened.

https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19?recruiter=626356175&utm_campaign=signature_receipt&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition


That's not going to happen. Doesn't surprise me that the fanatical liberal left would try to push that idea through though. The Horrible Wildebeest conceded the election. It's over.

taxfree4
11-11-2016, 08:27 AM
Rumor has it in honor of the hottest first lady we've ever had that these will be available in the White House gift shoppe. Let's show our appreciation by buying the whole lot. A great stocking stuffer and perfect for the wife or girlfriend, or both.

willtill
11-11-2016, 08:49 AM
Rumor has it in honor of the hottest first lady we've ever had that these will be available in the White House gift shoppe. Let's show our appreciation by buying the whole lot. A great stocking stuffer and perfect for the wife or girlfriend, or both.

Ahhh... and the "stimulation" of our economy begins :icon_lol:

hardtail
11-11-2016, 09:25 AM
Ahhh... and the "stimulation" of our economy begins :icon_lol:

Appropriate choice of terminology Willtill. That's funny, I don't care who you are!

stroguy
11-11-2016, 10:42 AM
I like the black guy in the video that says....'hey hillaree might not be likeable but that doesn't mean she can't lead and run a country. Insert Trump at hillaree and start telling your ignorant friends. That video is hilarious. The girl that says women should be afraid.........that's freakin hilarious. Move to Turkey and see how scared you are as a woman. Oh my God this is funny.

stroguy
11-11-2016, 10:44 AM
That's not going to happen. Doesn't surprise me that the fanatical liberal left would try to push that idea through though. The Horrible Wildebeest conceded the election. It's over.

Yep, they try it every time they lose and it never flies. Just have to look at an electoral map of the country by counties and you will see what the fathers wanted. It's about the states having the power, not DC and not every overpopulated city. It works, so they will leave it alone.

Was kinda hoping the panties were available in mesh and digital camo.

F6B1911
11-11-2016, 02:20 PM
Not that I disagree with what's been said so far here...However, where's the counter argument? We go full flame on oil or darkside or anything yet nobody is defending Obama/Clinton... I either find myself in the most enlightened company or there are a bunch of backstabbing cowards who are afraid to offer a counter point and are out rioting floating around here somewhere. Part of the founding of this country was compromise, yet we just don't seem to do it anymore. It's all one way or the other. A great deal more people would be happier if we all worked together vs doing everything in our power to obstruct the process instead of finding common ground to work from. And that's both sides of the aisle.

You want someone to defend Obama/Clinton?
I can do that.
Obama is great at reading off of a teleprompter.
Hillary has an amazing Pant Suit collection.

F6B1911
11-11-2016, 04:54 PM
That's not going to happen. Doesn't surprise me that the fanatical liberal left would try to push that idea through though. The Horrible Wildebeest conceded the election. It's over.

Yes, and because she conceded, I hear she is on the short list to be appointed the Ambassador to Libya.

53driver
11-11-2016, 05:14 PM
I think the SS has it's work cut out for it protecting the Clintons.
All the money that went to the Clinton Foundation to get her favors in line for when she became President isn't being refunded.
I'm sure there are many countries that might feel jaded at this outcome and try to do something about it.
I pray no SS members are required to forfeit their own lives.

taxfree4
11-11-2016, 07:39 PM
She's a sickly cuss maybe she'll have one of those shaking fits when no one is around and, you know... DONE. Actually, she's probably handy to have around when she starts the shimmy, I'd hand her a new bottle of ketchup or a gallon of paint.

unsub
11-12-2016, 02:01 AM
I don't that's why I was questioning it, although for the sake of argument I suppose I could find one. My personal belief is there's good points to both sides and if they'd actually compromise on some things we'd all be better off for it. And by both sides I mean democrats and republicans, Mrs. Clinton is a criminal as far as I'm concerned. I also cannot find anything nice to say about Obama. Hence why I'd like to see an intelligible rebuttal to the things that have been said here already.

I hear ya. We're on the same page for the most part. I could be wrong but I believe it's the same sentiment for the majority here. That's likely why you're not getting a lot of pushback, and not because of fear of speaking out.

taxfree4
11-12-2016, 05:35 AM
Not that I disagree with what's been said so far here...However, where's the counter argument? We go full flame on oil or darkside or anything yet nobody is defending Obama/Clinton... I either find myself in the most enlightened company or there are a bunch of backstabbing cowards who are afraid to offer a counter point and are out rioting floating around here somewhere. Part of the founding of this country was compromise, yet we just don't seem to do it anymore. It's all one way or the other. A great deal more people would be happier if we all worked together vs doing everything in our power to obstruct the process instead of finding common ground to work from. And that's both sides of the aisle.

Couldn't disagree more, there was no compromise in the founding and liberation of this nation because freedom has no compromise only responsibility and eternal vigilance. The enemy tries to put it's foot in the door by making you compromise. Liberals idea of compromise is when the majority gives into their plan. No one is defending those 2 miscreants because you can't defend the indefensible.

You either believe an abortion is murder or you don't
You either believe in open borders or you don't
You either believe you have a right to keep and wear arms or you don't (The proper translation of "bear")

That's why I disagree with Independents, you can't wet your finger and stick it in the air every election and say you stood on any ground. You either take a position on something, and be able to articulate it, or you don't. I have trouble sitting on the fence, it hurts my balls. Luckily, NY is a state where there is a separate Conservative Party.

The representative Republic we have works well, as it did Tuesday, President-elect Donald Trump said I'm going to do this this and this and we elected him, no compromise. It's when we elect someone that says I'm going to do this, "Read my lips no new taxes", and they "compromise" that we lose all respect for them and they go down in flames as a one term disgrace. If President-elect Donald Trump compromises on any of his core issues he will also be a one term president. The only compromise I'd be willing to entertain is which federal prison that diesel dike goes to AFTER she's convicted.

taxfree4
11-12-2016, 06:19 AM
"Dobro jutro moji medeni kruhki"









Courtesy of ths61

taxfree4
11-12-2016, 08:21 AM
WOOF

stroguy
11-12-2016, 09:40 AM
I have trouble sitting on the fence, it hurts my balls.


In my best Ron Popeil voice......................you need fence crown...... https://www.anthem-sports.com/catalog/product/view/id/8629/?gclid=CjwKEAiAmJvBBRDKpP724LigwngSJAAYRJXBOjjPdY7 N2umFJKFqOs9G-BhXrjH3GvV-_yHnjBC5MhoC_ufw_wcB

unsub
11-12-2016, 05:46 PM
In my best Ron Popeil voice......................you need fence crown...... https://www.anthem-sports.com/catalog/product/view/id/8629/?gclid=CjwKEAiAmJvBBRDKpP724LigwngSJAAYRJXBOjjPdY7 N2umFJKFqOs9G-BhXrjH3GvV-_yHnjBC5MhoC_ufw_wcB

:lolup:

Just set it and forget it!

taxfree4
11-12-2016, 06:47 PM
In my best Ron Popeil voice......................you need fence crown...... https://www.anthem-sports.com/catalog/product/view/id/8629/?gclid=CjwKEAiAmJvBBRDKpP724LigwngSJAAYRJXBOjjPdY7 N2umFJKFqOs9G-BhXrjH3GvV-_yHnjBC5MhoC_ufw_wcB

I had a pocket fisherman and the LP record vacuum, memories.

taxfree4
11-12-2016, 06:53 PM
I had a pocket fisherman and the LP record vacuum, memories.

And mammaries

taxfree4
11-13-2016, 12:53 PM
Moja prva Moja prva naloga kot prva dama je, da povabimo vse od forumu F6B na slavnostni večerji v Beli hiši. kot prva

Moja prva naloga podjetja kot prva dama je povabiti vse iz foruma F6B moj prvi beli hiši večerjo.Taxfree sedel poleg mene. je, da povabimo vse od forumu F6B na slavnostni večerji v Beli hiši.

willtill
11-13-2016, 03:08 PM
People with Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder are characterized by a persistent unwillingness to accept that Donald Trump is going to Make America Great Again. Individual sufferers often display signs of paranoia and delusion; in acute cases psychotic episodes have been observed. Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder is different from being upset about the results of the 2016 presidential election; People with TARD are unwilling or unable to accept reality, despite irrefutable evidence.

According to the DSM-V, individuals with TARD exhibit most or all of the following symptoms:

- Telling others they are moving to Canada

- Fixated on fantasies about the Electoral College

- Protesting an election no credible source contests the outcome of

- Exclamations that “Someone” should do “Something”

- Acute change in demeanor from pompous and arrogant to fearful and combative

- Claim that anyone who disagrees with them is some combination of Racist, Sexist, Bigoted, Homophobic, and actually some sort of Hitler persona

Causes And Mechanisms:
Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder was directly caused by the election of Donald Trump as President of the United States of America. For many, both in America and worldwide, this was a shocking and unexpected outcome; their preferred news sources having failed to inform them that the alternative candidate was a criminal parasite in such ill health she got chucked into the back of a van like a kidnap victim.

Research is ongoing, but TARD appears to correlate closely with the following environmental and behavioral factors:

- Membership in the Democratic party

- Identifying as a Feminist

- Currently enrolled in college, and/or

- Possession of a Liberal Arts college degree

- Cuckoldry

- Living in a densely populated metropolitan area

- Massive student debt

- Spotty or non-existent work history

- Hipsterism

Diagnosis:
Diagnosis of Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder is straightforward. Ask the patient if Donald Trump is going to be the Next President of the United States of America. Some patients will become agitated, and may attempt to deflect. It’s critical you press them on the issue, even if they start babbling about ‘muh triggers’. A sufferer of TARD will begin to ramble incoherently, often displaying three or more of the symptoms within a short period of time.

Treatment:
The only known effective treatment is exposure therapy. The patient must be repeatedly exposed to reality, and should wear a Make America Great Again hat as long as they are able to tolerate it. Each exposure should increase in length, after a week the patient should be encouraged to be seen in public wearing the MAGA hat. Coach the patient to refer to Donald Trump as President-Elect Trump.

Patients with TARD are very resistant to treatment, and dangerous in large groups. Any possibility of treatment requires that they be separated from their hive-mind support apparatus; they cannot begin the process of accepting reality in the presence of encouragement towards delusion and irrationality. Separation may require the assistance of law enforcement.

If you have a friend or loved one suffering from TARD, urge them to seek treatment. Together we can beat this scourge, and Make America Great Again!

http://m.disclose.tv/news/are_you_su...er_tard/136500

taxfree4
11-13-2016, 04:42 PM
That's got to be Tony jerking with my picture, although, I'm not hating it.

Phantom
11-13-2016, 05:14 PM
The RUSSIANS have infiltrated our website.
:shock:

They wanted to insert the following image as your avatar .....

taxfree4
11-13-2016, 05:51 PM
I just threw up in my mouth, maybe if you severed the head I'd take one for the team. They call that picture a wood chipper.

3Chief
11-14-2016, 09:48 AM
I just threw up in my mouth, maybe if you severed the head I'd take one for the team. They call that picture a wood chipper.

+1

BIGLRY
11-14-2016, 11:47 AM
The RUSSIANS have infiltrated our website.
:shock:

They wanted to insert the following image as your avatar .....OMG I was eating lunch when I saw that pic which caused me to blow chunks all over my keyboard....please warn a guy when you are posting stomach turning pic like that. I need some Eye Drano now!

taxfree4
11-14-2016, 06:22 PM
I won't be able to poke that out of my mind's eye with an ice pic. Man those Russians are busy as it seems that they invaded my address book and somehow, someway all of Tony's info: email, home/cell # wound up in a gay S&M personal ad. Giving you the heads up brother, there should be a lot of calls coming through. If they want a ride on the Goldwing make it back to back, ixnay on the assless chaps.

3Chief
11-15-2016, 10:48 AM
Couldn't disagree more, there was no compromise in the founding and liberation of this nation because freedom has no compromise only responsibility and eternal vigilance. The enemy tries to put it's foot in the door by making you compromise. Liberals idea of compromise is when the majority gives into their plan. No one is defending those 2 miscreants because you can't defend the indefensible.

You either believe an abortion is murder or you don't
You either believe in open borders or you don't
You either believe you have a right to keep and wear arms or you don't (The proper translation of "bear")

That's why I disagree with Independents, you can't wet your finger and stick it in the air every election and say you stood on any ground. You either take a position on something, and be able to articulate it, or you don't. I have trouble sitting on the fence, it hurts my balls. Luckily, NY is a state where there is a separate Conservative Party.

The representative Republic we have works well, as it did Tuesday, President-elect Donald Trump said I'm going to do this this and this and we elected him, no compromise. It's when we elect someone that says I'm going to do this, "Read my lips no new taxes", and they "compromise" that we lose all respect for them and they go down in flames as a one term disgrace. If President-elect Donald Trump compromises on any of his core issues he will also be a one term president. The only compromise I'd be willing to entertain is which federal prison that diesel dike goes to AFTER she's convicted.

We have to make some compromises for the good of all. Not everyone is going to be happy with everything. As much as we all want to take a hard stance on whatever our views are if we don't find away to address other points of view and multiple concerns we don't alleviate the problem and just exasperate the BS even further. We as a country spend so much time and energy rehashing the same shit that we're not addressing the real issues.

You either believe an abortion is murder or you don't - Separation of church and state, whether you believe its murder or not the law of the land says it's legal. If you and yours truly believe it's murder then don't get one, however stop trying to deny that right to those who don't. It's safer and healthier for all involved and we have more than enough breeders in this country to make up the difference.

You either believe in open borders or you don't - We can have open borders, most everyone is welcome to visit. Please leave when your time is up though. Their are plenty of legal ways to stay and our quotas of convenience store clerks and taxi cab drivers are full. We also have more than enough unskilled laborers or migratory workers. Apply for the appropriate VISA and go from there. H1B visa's need to be done away with.

You either believe you have a right to keep and wear arms or you don't (The proper translation of "bear") - Again, whether you believe in it or not it's the law of the land. Don't you worry about what I keep in my house or carry on my person. My one caveat here is that CC permits should be universal like drivers licenses and we should have to take a course and prove our knowledge like a drivers license. Entirely to many people, myself included, do not fully understand the rights and responsibility that come with the right to bear arms. If your going to have a CC and use it you should really prove you understand what you can and can't do in the name of self defense.


I agree with most of what you say Taxfree4, I just think we can get there a better way than ramming it down everyone's throat. Unfortunately far to many people want it their way with no regards to others and have their noses in everybody else's business. People seem to forget that we can have differing opinions yet still be neighbors and go about our daily lives without rioting because we didn't get our way.

dreads
11-15-2016, 11:36 AM
:agree: very well said


We have to make some compromises for the good of all. Not everyone is going to be happy with everything. As much as we all want to take a hard stance on whatever our views are if we don't find away to address other points of view and multiple concerns we don't alleviate the problem and just exasperate the BS even further. We as a country spend so much time and energy rehashing the same shit that we're not addressing the real issues.

You either believe an abortion is murder or you don't - Separation of church and state, whether you believe its murder or not the law of the land says it's legal. If you and yours truly believe it's murder then don't get one, however stop trying to deny that right to those who don't. It's safer and healthier for all involved and we have more than enough breeders in this country to make up the difference.

You either believe in open borders or you don't - We can have open borders, most everyone is welcome to visit. Please leave when your time is up though. Their are plenty of legal ways to stay and our quotas of convenience store clerks and taxi cab drivers are full. We also have more than enough unskilled laborers or migratory workers. Apply for the appropriate VISA and go from there. H1B visa's need to be done away with.

You either believe you have a right to keep and wear arms or you don't (The proper translation of "bear") - Again, whether you believe in it or not it's the law of the land. Don't you worry about what I keep in my house or carry on my person. My one caveat here is that CC permits should be universal like drivers licenses and we should have to take a course and prove our knowledge like a drivers license. Entirely to many people, myself included, do not fully understand the rights and responsibility that come with the right to bear arms. If your going to have a CC and use it you should really prove you understand what you can and can't do in the name of self defense.


I agree with most of what you say Taxfree4, I just think we can get there a better way than ramming it down everyone's throat. Unfortunately far to many people want it their way with no regards to others and have their noses in everybody else's business. People seem to forget that we can have differing opinions yet still be neighbors and go about our daily lives without rioting because we didn't get our way.

taxfree4
11-15-2016, 08:51 PM
We have to make some compromises for the good of all. Not everyone is going to be happy with everything. As much as we all want to take a hard stance on whatever our views are if we don't find away to address other points of view and multiple concerns we don't alleviate the problem and just exasperate the BS even further. We as a country spend so much time and energy rehashing the same shit that we're not addressing the real issues.

You either believe an abortion is murder or you don't - Separation of church and state, whether you believe its murder or not the law of the land says it's legal. If you and yours truly believe it's murder then don't get one, however stop trying to deny that right to those who don't. It's safer and healthier for all involved and we have more than enough breeders in this country to make up the difference.

You either believe in open borders or you don't - We can have open borders, most everyone is welcome to visit. Please leave when your time is up though. Their are plenty of legal ways to stay and our quotas of convenience store clerks and taxi cab drivers are full. We also have more than enough unskilled laborers or migratory workers. Apply for the appropriate VISA and go from there. H1B visa's need to be done away with.

You either believe you have a right to keep and wear arms or you don't (The proper translation of "bear") - Again, whether you believe in it or not it's the law of the land. Don't you worry about what I keep in my house or carry on my person. My one caveat here is that CC permits should be universal like drivers licenses and we should have to take a course and prove our knowledge like a drivers license. Entirely to many people, myself included, do not fully understand the rights and responsibility that come with the right to bear arms. If your going to have a CC and use it you should really prove you understand what you can and can't do in the name of self defense.


I agree with most of what you say Taxfree4, I just think we can get there a better way than ramming it down everyone's throat. Unfortunately far to many people want it their way with no regards to others and have their noses in everybody else's business. People seem to forget that we can have differing opinions yet still be neighbors and go about our daily lives without rioting because we didn't get our way.

My point in stating those 3 is that there is no compromise when it comes to life (abortion), liberty (right to bear arms) or living in a sovereign nation (open borders). How do you compromise life? It's OK to have an abortion at 2 weeks but we draw the line at 4 months. IF you believe life begins at conception then it can't begin anywhere else. And this has nothing to do with church and state, which appears nowhere in the constitution, many atheists are pro life and by the same token many religious people have had abortions. And just because 7 lawyers said it was OK to kill a baby in the womb didn't miraculously make it ok since the Supreme Court also said that because Dred Scott was a African slave he had no standing to sue, so they get it wrong sometimes.

When you compromise on open borders you get HIB visas, you get catch and release, anchor babies, sanctuary cities, you get illegals getting arrested and released to terrorize communities and because of the compromise given on restrictive gun laws on the right to bear arms, which unlike abortion didn't have to be found 184 years after the Constitution was ratified, you aren't allowed to protect your family.

Liberals never compromise they don't give an inch they wait for spineless Republicans i.e. Romney, Bush, McCain et. al. to fold like a cheap camera, which they usually do. They will try to make Trump compromise on his core issues and if he does he will be a one term forgotten president but if he doesn't budge and follows through with them he will enjoy an even bigger landslide in 2020.

Next time you're at a wedding pay attention to what the priest/preacher/rabbi says after the couple exchange their vows. "By the power vested in me by the STATE of _________...) Why is a religious man saying, in a house of worship with power vested (legal term meaning absolute) by a state not saying by the power of God, Jesus Christ, the Pope, the Church etc.? Because he is an agent for the state, there is no separation.

ths61
11-16-2016, 01:49 AM
BHO's immigration policy ...

24553

ths61
11-16-2016, 10:44 AM
24554

willtill
11-16-2016, 04:40 PM
Awesome looking First Family :yes:

http://i68.tinypic.com/2vhvu9w.jpg

stroguy
11-16-2016, 05:29 PM
I like that Trump feels compelled to dress appropriately every time he is in public. I hope I don't see him like the current resident getting on and off my USAF 747 looking like trash that just finished shopping at Dollar General. Presidency is a 24 hour job and should be portrayed with such importance. First check box is appearance. Don't believe we will see Trump chewing gum walking into an important world meeting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2iU7NbPWzk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNYaeqA036M

taxfree4
11-17-2016, 09:18 PM
Tony, I like her in red or black number if you have with a little more cleavage, anyway, if you think about it Hillary did make history: She's the only presidential candidate to lose TWO elections.

Phantom
11-17-2016, 10:10 PM
Tony, I like her in red or black number if you have with a little more cleavage, anyway, if you think about it Hillary did make history: She's the only presidential candidate to lose TWO elections.

Copy That :icon_mrgreen::yes:

taxfree4
11-18-2016, 02:02 AM
Copy That :icon_mrgreen::yes:

The gift that keeps on giving, that reminds me I need milk.

taxfree4
11-18-2016, 08:01 AM
​SCHWING

stroguy
11-18-2016, 08:04 AM
The gift that keeps on giving, that reminds me I need milk.

Don't SKIMp, get the best.

taxfree4
11-18-2016, 07:55 PM
Don't SKIMp, get the best.

Don't be udder ridiculous, only Slovenian Pure, from the tap, will do.

taxfree4
11-18-2016, 08:29 PM
Just found this one, let's just clone her so everyone can have one.

olegoat345
11-18-2016, 09:49 PM
come fellows = let's give it a break = 8 years of trash mouth is enough == we need to put all this hate aside and come together as a country.

stroguy
11-18-2016, 10:09 PM
Hmmm, the last 8+ days says that some would rather smash and trash property then to let it rest. In their eye it's all 1A rights. So gentle keyboard antics surely cannot hurt someones feelings...........can it? Hate is the wrong word.

taxfree4
11-19-2016, 04:44 AM
come fellows = let's give it a break = 8 years of trash mouth is enough == we need to put all this hate aside and come together as a country.

You're right, like these people showed, a little class, modicum and decorum:

http://nypost.com/2016/11/19/vp-elect-mike-pence-booed-at-hamilton/amp/ (This is why people hate NYers, with good reason)

I hope Trump appoints justices that overturn Roe v. Wade, rescind gay unions and send these freaks back in their closets, take every wetback and their welfare families and send those blood suckers back to that cesspool, Mexico. And send that two time loser, diesel dike to federal prison.

taxfree4
11-19-2016, 04:49 AM
Taxfree ne dobijo razburjena medu, da bomo poslabšali le razjeda

taxfree4
11-19-2016, 04:51 AM
dragi yer

taxfree4
11-19-2016, 07:55 AM
Maybe this will help them cope with their depression.

willtill
11-19-2016, 08:21 AM
I hope Trump appoints justices that overturn Roe v. Wade, rescind gay unions and send these freaks back in their closets, take every wetback and their welfare families and send those blood suckers back to that cesspool, Mexico. And send that two time loser, diesel dike to federal prison.

:icon_lol: :icon_wink:

I don't think he's going to be able to get all of that done; but hopefully we have secured the Supreme Court from liberal ideology and activism. :yes:

stroguy
11-19-2016, 08:59 AM
Brief compilation of the friendly Mexican immigration policies. And they enforce their laws........sometimes brutally.

Article 87 states foreigners must be “physically and mentally healthy.” Articles 73, 85, 86, 87 state foreigners must be on a national population registry, cooperating with federal local, and municipal police. Article 116 states foreigners using fake documents face a fine and imprisonment. Immigrants must show birth certificate to show citizenship. Articles 117-121 state foreigners who fail to obey laws will be fined, deported, and felons imprisoned. No one is allowed to enter the country with a criminal record. There is no due process of deportation. There is no 14th Amendment. Law enforcement officers are required to enforce Mexico’s immigration laws at all times. Articles 123-126 make illegal immigration a felony. Articles 127 state any Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner is subject to five years in prison.

stroguy
11-19-2016, 09:31 AM
You're right, like these people showed, a little class, modicum and decorum:

http://nypost.com/2016/11/19/vp-elect-mike-pence-booed-at-hamilton/amp/ (This is why people hate NYers, with good reason)
.

Pathetic, absolutely pathetic.

taxfree4
11-19-2016, 08:58 PM
:icon_lol: :icon_wink:

I don't think he's going to be able to get all of that done; but hopefully we have secured the Supreme Court from liberal ideology and activism. :yes:

I can dream, even if he gets 2 of those done, especially the Supreme Court I'll be happy. Who cares about Hillary, she's living in her own hell. She's like the Minnesota (chokers) Vikings-always made to the big game but never won it (I was a Dallas fan and my brother was Vikings fan).

Very important: Make no mistake, Reince Previs and the bunch, with the Republican establishment and their friends the lobbyists are presently in the works to see this never happens again i.e. an outsider comes into their sandbox. Do you know how absolutely batshyt crazy EVERYBODY in politics is that this happened. Somebody completely from the outside runs for the first time and wins the Presidency.

They had a beautiful thing going - make like we're at odds with each other and everybody will have their own deals going and make money. Go to Washington poor and leave with millions, as long as you play by the rules. Before Trump announced everybody was saying there was no difference between Republicans and Democrats, we used to call them Republicrats. They're in the same club, it's no different than when you walk into a court and stand before a judge. The appearance is there is impartiality but that is horseshyt because between the judge, prosecutors and defense lawyer you're the only one that isn't in their union, the BAR. Their first obligation is to the court just like a politician's first obligation is to the budget. The quickest way to increase the budget without votes, vetos or objection is to funnel these blood suckeres in as fast as possible and put them on the government teet. And that's why there were RINO's going along with the amnesty plan like McCain who received his 30 pieces of silver.

Trump's biggest opponents will be the Judas sheep in his own party McCain, Kasich, Romney, the Bushes, et.al working through the Democrats to disrupt, stonewall, sabotage and stop his agenda through procedural obstacles and the whittling down off his core agenda. THey shouldn't be considered for anything except how fast to slam the door in their faces. They NEVER want this to happen again and they are seeing to it that he fails and the rules will be changed. Don't be surprised in 2020 Mark Cuban decides to run for the Democrats.

taxfree4
11-20-2016, 03:58 AM
Quotes from Ayn Rand's, "Atlas Shrugged", 1957


"When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing -
When you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors -
When you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you -
When you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice -
You may know that your society is doomed."

taxfree4
11-20-2016, 06:38 AM
I feel better now

53driver
11-20-2016, 11:13 AM
I think you might have been up too late, Mikey....but glad you ended on a happy note.

Vondawg
11-20-2016, 12:01 PM
come fellows = let's give it a break = 8 years of trash mouth is enough == we need to put all this hate aside and come together as a country.

Note;To you and Carl.... don't click on "Finally" ...simple.

taxfree4
11-20-2016, 12:41 PM
I think you might have been up too late, Mikey....but glad you ended on a happy note.

Went to bed too early, up too early. Already that jealous, rat bastard McCain is badmouthing Trump on waterboarding, in another country no less. Hey stupid, I bet when you were a POW, if you were, you would have loved them to be waterboarding a Vietcong to find out where you were. At least Judas had the final dignity to hang himself.

3Chief
11-21-2016, 10:08 AM
You're right, like these people showed, a little class, modicum and decorum:

http://nypost.com/2016/11/19/vp-elect-mike-pence-booed-at-hamilton/amp/ (This is why people hate NYers, with good reason)

I hope Trump appoints justices that overturn Roe v. Wade, rescind gay unions and send these freaks back in their closets, take every wetback and their welfare families and send those blood suckers back to that cesspool, Mexico. And send that two time loser, diesel dike to federal prison.

Religion has no place in politics, laws need to adapt with the times, unless your going to force the lazy welfare Americans to do actual work you need the migrant workers like we always have.

taxfree4
11-21-2016, 11:19 PM
Religion has no place in politics, laws need to adapt with the times, unless your going to force the lazy welfare Americans to do actual work you need the migrant workers like we always have.

I don't know where you get this information from but religion is, has and will always be part of politics. It is the basis of law, the UCC is based directly on the Code of Canon Law. It is the cornerstone of all the founding documents, Congress opens each session with a prayer, the President and all of Congress has to be sworn in before taking office with the last words being "... so help me God" When you go to court, you're in church whether you know it or not. As far as those workers go don't give them unemployment for 99 weeks and they'll be in those fine, those migrants drive down wages and automation will soon replace them. BTW, never see illegals standing outside a coal mine to work. Americans do the jobs illegals don't have the balls to.

taxfree4
11-22-2016, 08:45 AM
Additionally, 11 years before George Washington's Thanksgiving Proclamation the First Continental Congress issued the following Thanksgiving Proclamation:


FORASMUCH as it is the indispensable Duty of all Men to adore the superintending Providence of Almighty God; to acknowledge with Gratitude their Obligation to him for benefits received, and to implore such farther Blessings as they stand in Need of; And it having pleased him in his abundant Mercy not only to continue to us the innumerable Bounties of his common Providence, but also to smile upon us in the Prosecution of a just and necessary War, for the Defence and Establishment of our unalienable Rights and Liberties; particularly in that he hath been pleased in so great a Measure to prosper the Means used for the Support of our Troops and to crown our Arms with most signal success:

It is therefore recommended to the legislative or executive powers of these United States, to set apart Thursday, the eighteenth Day of December next, for Solemn Thanksgiving and Praise; That with one Heart and one Voice the good People may express the grateful Feelings of their Hearts, and consecrate themselves to the Service of their Divine Benefactor; and that together with their sincere Acknowledgments and Offerings, they may join the penitent Confession of their manifold Sins, whereby they had forfeited every Favour, and their humble and earnest Supplication that it may please God, through the Merits of Jesus Christ, mercifully to forgive and blot them out of Remembrance; That it may please him graciously to afford his Blessing on the Governments of these States respectively, and prosper the public Council of the whole; to inspire our Commanders both by Land and Sea, and all under them, with that Wisdom and Fortitude which may render them fit Instruments, under the Providence of Almighty God, to secure for these United States the greatest of all human blessings, Independence and Peace; That it may please him to prosper the Trade and Manufactures of the People and the Labour of the Husbandman, that our Land may yet yield its Increase; To take Schools and Seminaries of Education, so necessary for cultivating the Principles of true Liberty, Virtue and Piety, under his nurturing Hand, and to prosper the Means of Religion for the promotion and enlargement of that Kingdom which consisteth in Righteousness, Peace and Joy in the Holy Ghost.

And it is further recommended, that servile Labour, and such Recreation as, though at other Times innocent, may be unbecoming the Purpose of this Appointment, be omitted on so solemn an Occasion.

November 1, 1777

taxfree4
11-22-2016, 08:47 AM
Calvin Coolidge:

By the President of the United States of America
A ProclamationThe American people, from their earliest days, have observed the wise custom of acknowledging each year the bounty with which divine Providence has favored them. In the beginnings, this acknowledgment was a voluntary return of thanks by the community for the fruitfulness of the harvest. Though our mode of life has greatly changed, this custom has always survived. It has made thanksgiving day not only one of the oldest but one of the most characteristic observances of our country. On that day, in home and church, in family and in public gatherings, the whole nation has for generations paid the tribute due from grateful hearts for blessings bestowed.
To center our thought in this way upon the favor which we have been shown has been altogether wise and desirable. It has given opportunity justly to balance the good and the evil which we have experienced. In that we have never failed to find reasons for being grateful to God for a generous preponderance of the good. Even in the least propitious times, a broad contemplation of our whole position has never failed to disclose overwhelming reasons for thankfulness. Thus viewing our situation, we have found warrant for a more hopeful and confident attitude toward the future.
In this current year, we now approach the time which has been accepted by custom as most fitting for the calm survey of our estate and the return of thanks. We shall the more keenly realize our good fortune, if we will, in deep sincerity, give to it due thought, and more especially, if we will compare it with that of any other community in the world.
The year has brought to our people two tragic experiences which have deeply affected them. One was the death of our beloved President Harding, which has been mourned wherever there is a realization of the worth of high ideals, noble purpose and unselfish service carried even to the end of supreme sacrifice. His loss recalled the nation to a less captious and more charitable attitude. It sobered the whole thought of the country. A little later came the unparalleled disaster to the friendly people of Japan. This called forth from the people of the United States a demonstration of deep and humane feeling. It was wrought into the substance of good works. It created new evidences of our international friendship, which is a guarantee of world peace. It replenished the charitable impulse of the country.
By experiences such as these, men and nations are tested and refined. We have been blessed with much of material prosperity. We shall be better able to appreciate it if we remember the privations others have suffered, and we shall be the more worthy of it if we use it for their relief. We will do well then to render thanks for the good that has come to us, and show by our actions that we have become stronger, wiser, and truer by the chastenings which have been imposed upon us. We will thus prepare ourselves for the part we must take in a world which forever needs the full measure of service. We have been a most favored people. We ought to be a most generous people. We have been a most blessed people. We ought to be a most thankful people.
Wherefore, I, Calvin Coolidge, President of the United States, do hereby fix and designate Thursday, the twenty-ninth day of November, as Thanksgiving Day, and recommend its general observance throughout the land. It is urged that the people, gathering in their homes and their usual places of worship, give expression to their gratitude for the benefits and blessings that a gracious Providence has bestowed upon them, and seek the guidance of Almighty God, that they may deserve a continuance of His favor.
In Witness Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and caused the seal of the United States to be affixed.
Done at the City of Washington, this 5th day of November, in the year of our Lord, One Thousand Nine Hundred and Twenty-three, and of the Independence of the United States, the One Hundred and Forty-eighth.
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/images/signatures/30.jpg
CALVIN COOLIDGE

3Chief
11-22-2016, 10:17 AM
I don't know where you get this information from but religion is, has and will always be part of politics. It is the basis of law, the UCC is based directly on the Code of Canon Law. It is the cornerstone of all the founding documents, Congress opens each session with a prayer, the President and all of Congress has to be sworn in before taking office with the last words being "... so help me God" When you go to court, you're in church whether you know it or not. As far as those workers go don't give them unemployment for 99 weeks and they'll be in those fine, those migrants drive down wages and automation will soon replace them. BTW, never see illegals standing outside a coal mine to work. Americans do the jobs illegals don't have the balls to.

I'll not pretend to be as knowledgeable as you in these things. I've always wondered why the gods are invoked in a great many of our legal services. I tend to believe it was a hold over given that when religion ruled the world it was called the dark ages. Fortunately those same founders saw fit to forge the living document we know and cherish as the Constitution which allows us both to have our beliefs and the freedom to speak about them vs being burned at the stake for not following some archaic puritan canon. Religion can be a good guiding force for any individual or country, however when left unchecked a great deal of evil acts have been committed in the name of the gods. A great deal of good has been done too.

I fully 100% agree with you on unemployed workers, I'd love to see Kansas and Maine style assistance requirements enacted across the country. Recently, while have a conversation about state assistance, I finally came to understand the difference between a hand up vs a hand out. Our assistance programs went from being safety nets to help people get back on their feet to debilitating programs more destructive to people than drugs.

Migrants do drive down the wages, they also do a lot of jobs nobody else wants to. Besides, they aren't stupid. Where are coal mines located? Coal mines still pay a good wage I believe and migrant workers may just disappear without a trace in those places. By an large blue collar work is looked down upon by most people, everybody wants some cushy office job. You want to get rid of migrant workers fine, get our lazy countrymen and woman off their asses and out into the fields, coal mines, factories and construction sites. Pay them a fair wage, offer good benefits and make housing affordable. Reinforce the concept of working for a living. When you make a better living sitting on the couch vs. going to work... True migrant workers come in for the season, they follow the harvest and go home when it's done. Most of us don't have an issue with them. It's the ones that decide not to leave we have the issue with.

stroguy
11-22-2016, 10:53 AM
Migrants do drive down the wages, they also do a lot of jobs nobody else wants to. Besides, they aren't stupid. Where are coal mines located? Coal mines still pay a good wage I believe and migrant workers may just disappear without a trace in those places. By an large blue collar work is looked down upon by most people, everybody wants some cushy office job. You want to get rid of migrant workers fine, get our lazy countrymen and woman off their asses and out into the fields, coal mines, factories and construction sites. Pay them a fair wage, offer good benefits and make housing affordable. Reinforce the concept of working for a living. When you make a better living sitting on the couch vs. going to work... True migrant workers come in for the season, they follow the harvest and go home when it's done. Most of us don't have an issue with them. It's the ones that decide not to leave we have the issue with.

I have heard this repeated oh so many times but I never have seen the American on TV saying....'I'm not going to do that job'. Never, ever, never. It's just a catchy thing to say when you can lump and degrade Americans as lazy. I say they would do that job if businesses were fined when they employ illegals that drive the wages down. On the downside of the wages being increased is that you are going to drive the price of oranges and lettuce up. But in a true capitalistic system, that creates competition and that's always good.

dkooris
11-22-2016, 11:09 AM
Time to:


Lock her up.
Drain the swamp.
Build the wall.
Replace BHONoCare.
Fill some SCOTUS seats.
Close the Clinton Crime Foundation.
Restore the Second Amendment.


Did I miss something? Trumps people said this morning they will not pursue charges against HC. The swamp is getting filled with the same old people, the wall will never be built, insurance still a question, SC sill a question, Clinton foundation got a 90% plus rating from Charity Watch, Trump Foundation got fined and can't do business in NY, and Did 2/3 of the states vote to repeal the 2nd amendment? I just checked, gunsafe is still secure.

stroguy
11-22-2016, 11:40 AM
Glad to hear you admit that obama had a fully populated swamp. I see it as the swamp is being burned.

3Chief
11-22-2016, 12:04 PM
I have heard this repeated oh so many times but I never have seen the American on TV saying....'I'm not going to do that job'. Never, ever, never. It's just a catchy thing to say when you can lump and degrade Americans as lazy. I say they would do that job if businesses were fined when they employ illegals that drive the wages down. On the downside of the wages being increased is that you are going to drive the price of oranges and lettuce up. But in a true capitalistic system, that creates competition and that's always good.

Of course you haven't, they're too busy cashing their welfare checks. Maybe I'm wrong, however in my experience far to many people would rather take the free money from welfare vs performing manual labor. We wouldn't have nearly the issue with illegals if they came here and couldn't find those jobs that most feel are beneath them. How many non migrants do you see out there working the fields? Especially around harvest time? There area lot of hard working Americans out there, however the numbers are falling. They've been discouraged, driven from the workforce, penalized for trying to provide for their families, robbed of their retirement and their dignity.

I'm all for fining businesses that hire illegals, however I'm also for giving them the ability to fire someone who won't perform the job satisfactorily. You want a higher wage? Earn it. Prices will regulate themselves.

taxfree4
11-23-2016, 07:18 AM
I'll not pretend to be as knowledgeable as you in these things. I've always wondered why the gods are invoked in a great many of our legal services. I tend to believe it was a hold over given that when religion ruled the world it was called the dark ages. Fortunately those same founders saw fit to forge the living document we know and cherish as the Constitution which allows us both to have our beliefs and the freedom to speak about them vs being burned at the stake for not following some archaic puritan canon. Religion can be a good guiding force for any individual or country, however when left unchecked a great deal of evil acts have been committed in the name of the gods. A great deal of good has been done too.

I fully 100% agree with you on unemployed workers, I'd love to see Kansas and Maine style assistance requirements enacted across the country. Recently, while have a conversation about state assistance, I finally came to understand the difference between a hand up vs a hand out. Our assistance programs went from being safety nets to help people get back on their feet to debilitating programs more destructive to people than drugs.

Migrants do drive down the wages, they also do a lot of jobs nobody else wants to. Besides, they aren't stupid. Where are coal mines located? Coal mines still pay a good wage I believe and migrant workers may just disappear without a trace in those places. By an large blue collar work is looked down upon by most people, everybody wants some cushy office job. You want to get rid of migrant workers fine, get our lazy countrymen and woman off their asses and out into the fields, coal mines, factories and construction sites. Pay them a fair wage, offer good benefits and make housing affordable. Reinforce the concept of working for a living. When you make a better living sitting on the couch vs. going to work... True migrant workers come in for the season, they follow the harvest and go home when it's done. Most of us don't have an issue with them. It's the ones that decide not to leave we have the issue with.

Like the Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence, Magna Carta and Constitution they don't create rights that didn't exist prior, all they are doing is reinforcing "natural rights" that come from God. The Founders were very conscience of that fact that "unalienable rights" weren't their creation but were endowed by the Creator. Since those documents were first issued there are forces, up to today, to remove any reference to God or the religious basis to this nation. The problem with that is all it takes is a little research and you see God is all over every founding document, the basis of law and is weaved into political life by His acknowledgement in oaths in every facet and every office. Above the Supreme Court is carved the Ten Commandments. That never stopped atheists, communists, socialists and Democrats from denying any interdependency between the two.

ths61
11-23-2016, 08:24 PM
Did I miss something? Trumps people said this morning they will not pursue charges against HC. The swamp is getting filled with the same old people, the wall will never be built, insurance still a question, SC sill a question, Clinton foundation got a 90% plus rating from Charity Watch, Trump Foundation got fined and can't do business in NY, and Did 2/3 of the states vote to repeal the 2nd amendment? I just checked, gunsafe is still secure.

We shall see what happens once he takes office.

As for the Clinton Crime Foundation, their own tax returns show they only gave 6% to charity. Maybe you misunderstood their rating system, (90%+ rating == 94% theft, 6% charity) ?

If "Charity Watch" gives its highest ratings for a 94% skimming rate, I would hate to see what a bad rating is from them. For comparison, Wounded Warriors Project was crucified for a 60% overhead.

Also, we haven't discussed all of the "Foundation's" expenditures that went to totally unrelated items, such as Chelsea's wedding and other payouts.

http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/16/clinton-foundation-spent-6-percent-charitable-grants-2014/

24661

http://nypost.com/2016/11/06/chelsea-clinton-used-foundation-to-help-pay-for-wedding-emails/

NAHD
11-23-2016, 10:06 PM
Voted for Trump only because he said we don't need to fight with Russia. The evil bitch from hell would have nuked half the world if it would have meant furthering her agenda. We are still screwed. Trump ain't gonna save us. We're on borrowed fake digital dishonest money. The same old crooks are busting ass to infiltrate and hijack the next administration. Better have fun and ride your bike while you can. It's all gonna go poof.

taxfree4
11-24-2016, 01:57 AM
Give the man a chance, he will take office soon so let's see what he does. The main thing is ... what will the First Lady be wearing. I'm thinking a black number with a little cleavage, not too much but a lot of leg, spike heels with a big hat. Guaranteed Chief Justice John Roberts won't be able to take his eyes off her. Imagine while administering the office, glancing at Melania, Roberts says to Trump "Now repeat after me, I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the breast of my ability...wait, wait sorry let's start over." Keep your DVR's on.

Broken Hand
11-24-2016, 03:15 AM
Fortunately those same founders saw fit to forge the living document we know and cherish as the Constitution which allows us both to have our beliefs and the freedom to speak about them vs being burned at the stake for not following some archaic puritan canon.

I vehemently disagree with that assertion. When I sign a legal document, I don't want some lawyer coming back and re-defining the terms.

Justice Scalia:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03/15/justice-scalia-constitution-is-not-living-organism.html

ths61
11-24-2016, 03:59 AM
Give the man a chance, he will take office soon so let's see what he does. The main thing is ... what will the First Lady be wearing. I'm thinking a black number with a little cleavage, not too much but a lot of leg, spike heels with a big hat. Guaranteed Chief Justice John Roberts won't be able to take his eyes off her. Imagine while administering the office, glancing at Melania, Roberts says to Trump "Now repeat after me, I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the breast of my ability...wait, wait sorry let's start over." Keep your DVR's on.

Tax, there is a cold shower with your name on it.

ths61
11-24-2016, 04:02 AM
I vehemently disagree with that assertion. When I sign a legal document, I don't want some lawyer coming back and re-defining the terms.

Justice Scalia:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03/15/justice-scalia-constitution-is-not-living-organism.html

Very well said. The past 8 years have been all about redefinitions.

taxfree4
11-24-2016, 04:47 AM
Tax, there is a cold shower with your name on it.

Glad you brought that up, I ordered the new Nebia showerhead it saves 70% of the water you would normally use by atomizing the water. Check out the video, Tim Cook from Apple invested in the company.

I think the First Lady would be perfect as a spokesman, only if she demonstrated how it worked...in a bikini of course we're not animals.
https://nebia.com/

stroguy
11-24-2016, 10:18 AM
Very well said. The past 8 years have been all about redefinitions.

I will never be able to wipe out 'to fundamentally transform America'. You have to be some kind of sap to digest that pap without understanding just how seditious that is.

From his 2008 hate tour.

"Now, Mizzou, I just have two words for you tonight: five days. Five days. After decades of broken politics in Washington, and eight years of failed policies from George W. Bush, and 21 months of a campaign that's taken us from the rocky coast of Maine to the sunshine of California, we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.

"In five days, you can turn the page on policies that put greed and irresponsibility on Wall Street before the hard work and sacrifice of folks on Main Street. In five days, you can choose policies that invest in our middle class, and create new jobs, and grow this economy, so that everyone has a chance to succeed, not just the CEO, but the secretary and janitor, not just the factory owner, but the men and women on the factory floor."



And after 8 years, the janitor is worse off. The factory worker is worse off. Salaries are stagnant. What was household incomes in 2008? What are they now? D.C. is as corrupt and fat with bureaucrats than ever. And you think hillaree would have changed this? F'off and go riot losers. Trump is worth the 4 year experiment. Bad thing is it will take more than 3-4 years to wipe the closet socialist from the rolls of US history. But we sure are going to try.

ths61
11-24-2016, 01:03 PM
I will never be able to wipe out 'to fundamentally transform America'. You have to be some kind of sap to digest that pap without understanding just how seditious that is.

From his 2008 hate tour.

"Now, Mizzou, I just have two words for you tonight: five days. Five days. After decades of broken politics in Washington, and eight years of failed policies from George W. Bush, and 21 months of a campaign that's taken us from the rocky coast of Maine to the sunshine of California, we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.

"In five days, you can turn the page on policies that put greed and irresponsibility on Wall Street before the hard work and sacrifice of folks on Main Street. In five days, you can choose policies that invest in our middle class, and create new jobs, and grow this economy, so that everyone has a chance to succeed, not just the CEO, but the secretary and janitor, not just the factory owner, but the men and women on the factory floor."



And after 8 years, the janitor is worse off. The factory worker is worse off. Salaries are stagnant. What was household incomes in 2008? What are they now? D.C. is as corrupt and fat with bureaucrats than ever. And you think hillaree would have changed this? F'off and go riot losers. Trump is worth the 4 year experiment. Bad thing is it will take more than 3-4 years to wipe the closet socialist from the rolls of US history. But we sure are going to try.

2467124670

taxfree4
11-24-2016, 09:00 PM
Every time you put a face on liberalism be it Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton or Barack Obama (the first half black president) it always winds up as a boost for Republicans.

MarcPW
11-26-2016, 02:15 PM
So by looking at the majority of the Reply on this Thread, it seems that masturbating while looking at the first lady is the primordial part of your voting choice... How did Bush got elected twice is a mystery to me :shrug::clap2:

stroguy
11-26-2016, 02:56 PM
You would prefer masturbating to John Key? The choice here is easy.

taxfree4
11-26-2016, 04:59 PM
As opposed to wanking it to the First Lady of New Zealand I'll pull the lever, no pun intended, for Melania, let's put it up to a vote. Somewhere there's a library missing an employee.

ths61
11-26-2016, 10:58 PM
So by looking at the majority of the Reply on this Thread, it seems that masturbating while looking at the first lady is the primordial part of your voting choice... How did Bush got elected twice is a mystery to me :shrug::clap2:

Sometimes you have to make the tough calls:

2470624707

Phantom
11-26-2016, 10:59 PM
So by looking at the majority of the Reply on this Thread, it seems that masturbating while looking at the first lady is the primordial part of your voting choice... How did Bush got elected twice is a mystery to me :shrug::clap2:


Marc, you can do better then this. This kind of posting is as valuable as my used toilet paper.

I travel quite a bit and I have laughed many times at individuals that felt compelled to criticize Bush with absolutely zero experience of living through the Bush years themselves. I lived through the Bush years and did very well until 2006 when congress changed it's leadership to Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, that was when the U.S. economy started to tank, the rest of the world followed suit shortly thereafter and many countries today are still trying to recover AND Bush had nothing to do with their demise. I did suffer as most of the country did after September 11th for quite a while when everyone was reluctant to invest their capital because of the unknown future.

This country came together after September 11th and yes, like or not .... Bush was a big part of getting this economy back on track. NO OTHER country in the world could have suffered such a hard financial hit and come back as fast as we did. I can tell you this ... if the United States of America is doing well ... the rest of the world does well, if we are not doing well ... neither is the rest of the world, that is a fact. If New Zealand ever needs help, I would bet that our White House phone would be ringing off the hook and not China's presidents phone.

I dont criticize or compliment foreign governments with the exception of those that I have lived under or done business with. I just lived through the most difficult 8 years of my life. I, like many others are worse off today then we were 10 years ago, that is reality not just a joke. I used to be a philanthropist until the government in recent years felt that they could spread my wealth better than I could. I vote for and support anyone that I feel has the experience and ability to lead this country regardless of their party affiliation. Stupid "one-liners" are not what most intelligent and successful individuals use to make their decisions to vote by. For me, the Bush years were great.

When my bank accounts get a HARD-ON ... and I see them grow bigger .... that there is indeed orgasmic reality and all other pleasures follow behind.

Time to go out for a ride .... later :cheers:

MarcPW
11-26-2016, 11:36 PM
You would prefer masturbating to John Key? The choice here is easy.

:clap2: No way !

MarcPW
11-26-2016, 11:39 PM
Sometimes you have to make the tough calls:

2470624707

Yes, but can she make waffles ? :icon_lol:

MarcPW
11-26-2016, 11:52 PM
Marc, you can do better then this. This kind of posting is as valuable as my used toilet paper.

I travel quite a bit and I have laughed many times at individuals that felt compelled to criticize Bush with absolutely zero experience of living through the Bush years themselves. I lived through the Bush years and did very well until 2006 when congress changed it's leadership to Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, that was when the U.S. economy started to tank, the rest of the world followed suit shortly thereafter and many countries today are still trying to recover AND Bush had nothing to do with their demise. I did suffer as most of the country did after September 11th for quite a while when everyone was reluctant to invest their capital because of the unknown future.

This country came together after September 11th and yes, like or not .... Bush was a big part of getting this economy back on track. NO OTHER country in the world could have suffered such a hard financial hit and come back as fast as we did. I can tell you this ... if the United States of America is doing well ... the rest of the world does well, if we are not doing well ... neither is the rest of the world, that is a fact. If New Zealand ever needs help, I would bet that our White House phone would be ringing off the hook and not China's presidents phone.

I dont criticize or compliment foreign governments with the exception of those that I have lived under or done business with. I just lived through the most difficult 8 years of my life. I, like many others are worse off today then we were 10 years ago, that is reality not just a joke. I used to be a philanthropist until the government in recent years felt that they could spread my wealth better than I could. I vote for and support anyone that I feel has the experience and ability to lead this country regardless of their party affiliation. Stupid "one-liners" are not what most intelligent and successful individuals use to make their decisions to vote by. For me, the Bush years were great.

When my bank accounts get a HARD-ON ... and I see them grow bigger .... that there is indeed orgasmic reality and all other pleasures follow behind.

Time to go out for a ride .... later :cheers:

Sorry to have offended you, but I also read that the US economy was in a very good shape at the time of Clinton... The hard part of your election is that you have to chose between only two candidates (and yes I dislike both of them). As for Bush, his legacy is the states the World is in, especially the middle east, all that on a whim to get rid of a dangerous despot with a false argument that Iraq was developing biological and nuclear weapons .Look at the result...
But you are right: war create jobs.

ths61
11-27-2016, 12:00 AM
Yes, but can she make waffles ? :icon_lol:

What are waffles ? :icon_lol:

http://www.ivankatrump.com/weekend-dinner-menu-recipes/

Apparently she can cook, who knew ?

Phantom
11-27-2016, 12:52 AM
Sorry to have offended you, but I also read that the US economy was in a very good shape at the time of Clinton... The hard part of your election is that you have to chose between only two candidates (and yes I dislike both of them). As for Bush, his legacy is the states the World is in, especially the middle east, all that on a whim to get rid of a dangerous despot with a false argument that Iraq was developing biological and nuclear weapons .Look at the result...
But you are right: war create jobs.

Not offended, just gets old to hear criticism that is not deserved regardless who the recipient is.
Ahhh the Clinton Years ...
Reality is that it took REAGAN'S policies 3 years to gain traction and us to see some measurable results hence his re-election where he won 49 out of 50 states (see attachment). Reagans policies in the 80's were great for the USA, Bush senior was not a Reagan but Reagan's policies continued to flourish through part of the Clinton Years. We started to see Clintons negative effects at the end of his third year with taxes galore , his competitor Bob Dole was NOT the best qualified Republican for the job however he was given the nod due to his seniority which was a deadly decision and Bob Dole dint know what the heck he was doing. It was the DOT.COM boom that carried Clinton for a while, his last 2 years were not good hence Bush Junior beating Al Gore (another Bob Dole).

The world placed itself in the condition that it's in, easy to blame someone else rather then yourself. Time to take responsibility for your own actions. How could a president that so many of you International Elites compared his intelligence to a monkey have so much power over 186 countries (or whatever the count is now) what does that say about the intelligence about the rest of the world using your arguments?

The Middle East has been fighting themselves for 100's of years, you quickly forgot the Iraq-Iran war and didn't quote that nearly 1.5 MILLION people died in that war before Bush. Although terrible its been estimated that since Bush's war in Iraq started in 2003 approximately 500,000 people have died. Where is your outcry for the atrocities before Bush?

As far as war creates jobs ... you are partially correct however it is insignificant in relation to our entire countries work force. We have 1,400,000 Americans in active military duty with 800,000 in the Reserves. Approximately 1.5 million Americans work in companies that supply the military, (3.7 million total). We have a population reaching 320 million with a workforce of 160 million and you think the Iraq war employed and benefitted many Americans? You're hallucinating. Thank goodness that America has created other industries, technologies, medicines and is on the leading edge of future technologies that employ the rest of our population that can find work.

Explain to me the results of what Saudi Arabia, Iran and all of those countries that have been supporting the suppression of freedoms to their populations and how the world has benefitted from their backwards thinking and beliefs. Who do you blame that on.... Bush also?

Our new president-elect will not see his policies flourish for at least 2-3 years, sadly 2017 and part of 2018 will continue on the current course set by the current administration. Under the current administration the Chinese, the Iranians, The North Koreans and the Russians have been emboldened to do what ever they want particularly in your backyard and you New Zealenders can't do and won't do Squat about it. It's the US Navy that has ruffled the Chinese by sailing through international waters wrongfully claimed by the Chinese, everyone is in a uproar in your neighborhood yet It's the American Military machine with the wet noodle commander in chief that is still feared by the Chinese.

It's actually refreshing to hear a president elect tell the world to get ready and defend yourselves with your OWN money, Americans are tired of spending money all over the world. It's refreshing to hear a president elect that knows how to negotiate intelligent agreements unlike the recent Iran nuclear deal that isn't a deal for the rest of the world.

We DON'T blame anyone else outside our country's boundary for our failures and lack luster performance, so don't blame us for your failures. America is great because our population keeps doing and repeating what has made us great. Once in a while we stumble, trip, fall and hit our head on the ground .... which requires a little bit of time for us to come back to our senses ... :banghead:

:cheers:

taxfree4
11-27-2016, 05:45 AM
The one and only thing good about the Clinton years was Melania came to America in 1996.

"Ljubim Ameriko"

willtill
11-27-2016, 08:08 AM
Sorry to have offended you, but I also read that the US economy was in a very good shape at the time of Clinton... The hard part of your election is that you have to chose between only two candidates (and yes I dislike both of them). As for Bush, his legacy is the states the World is in, especially the middle east, all that on a whim to get rid of a dangerous despot with a false argument that Iraq was developing biological and nuclear weapons .Look at the result...
But you are right: war create jobs.

Bush did act on intelligence that later turned out to be somewhat inaccurate. And he had support of a worldwide coalition that was in agreement with him; regarding that intelligence With a UN mandate to execute that action.

What would you have done if you were in his shoes at that time? Cry me a river for the armchair quarterback here.

I was party to that little Mideast excursion, for 8 months out in the barren Saudia/Iraqi and ultimately the Kuwait desert. I support George H. W. Bush's decisions to this very day.

http://i65.tinypic.com/zik5n5.jpg

stroguy
11-27-2016, 10:03 AM
It's actually refreshing to hear a president elect tell the world to get ready and defend yourselves with your OWN money, Americans are tired of spending money all over the world.:

Hallethankyoulordgodilovelujah! America has been pumping unfair gobs of money into fighting terrorism and this ignorant global warming thievery long freakin enough. You don't want your night clubs shot up France? Then you can start giving money to poor old Belgium to help them root out the scum infesting your countries. Why is the US footing 70% of the European muslim terrorist bill? Enough is enough. And once you include the scientists that can contradict your skewed science of how the climate actually changes, then we can force other countries to foot the bill for their pollution. Why does it have to be our billions first?

I was offended Tony.......he called me special stupid. I think I am incredibly stoopid for voting Trump. And I am so happy. I heading to the bathroom to pull the lever and vote again.

willtill
11-27-2016, 10:52 AM
Hallethankyoulordgodilovelujah! America has been pumping unfair gobs of money into fighting terrorism and this ignorant global warming thievery long freakin enough. You don't want your night clubs shot up France? Then you can start giving money to poor old Belgium to help them root out the scum infesting your countries. Why is the US footing 70% of the European muslim terrorist bill? Enough is enough. And once you include the scientists that can contradict your skewed science of how the climate actually changes, then we can force other countries to foot the bill for their pollution. Why does it have to be our billions first?

I was offended Tony.......he called me special stupid. I think I am incredibly stoopid for voting Trump. And I am so happy. I heading to the bathroom to pull the lever and vote again.

No.. you are not "special stupid" Stro. You are a "Deplorable" and may I add; a fine addition to the deplorable band of many brothers here :icon_wink:

BIGLRY
11-27-2016, 01:43 PM
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Broken Hand
11-27-2016, 01:51 PM
Bush did act on intelligence that later turned out to be somewhat inaccurate. And he had support of a worldwide coalition that was in agreement with him; regarding that intelligence With a UN mandate to execute that action.

What would you have done if you were in his shoes at that time? Cry me a river for the armchair quarterback here.

I was party to that little Mideast excursion, for 8 months out in the barren Saudia/Iraqi and ultimately the Kuwait desert. I support George H. W. Bush's decisions to this very day.

http://i65.tinypic.com/zik5n5.jpg

Desert Storm map? Operation Iraqi Freedom? Your mixing conflicts with your answer. I think Desert Storm was about kicking Sadam out of Kuwait, which I believe was almost universally supported. I recall some even wanted Bush Sr. to go into Baghdad and remove Hussein, but that was not part of the UN mandate.

As to Bush Jr., Trump was rather prescient in that matter. Look up his Esquire magazine article, discount the Howard Stern interview. Those were two completely different venues, one serious, the other not so much.

But a lot of Democrats voted authorization for Bush to use any force necessary to enforce UN mandates against Sadam. They were so eager to look like war hawks heading into election season. Bill Clinton 'knew' Sadam had WMDs. The only fault in Bush's plan was that he no control over his successor. And the U.S. elected the worse guy possible (my opinion).

I know you know this Will, but this is for others who may not. I still have a box of Seattle Times newspapers Extra edition from 1991 and the day after with a picture of the anti-aircraft rounds lighting up the night over Baghdad.

taxfree4
11-28-2016, 06:15 AM
Not even in office yet

3Chief
11-28-2016, 09:56 AM
I vehemently disagree with that assertion. When I sign a legal document, I don't want some lawyer coming back and re-defining the terms.

Justice Scalia:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03/15/justice-scalia-constitution-is-not-living-organism.html

I stand corrected and that is a much better definition :yes:

3Chief
11-28-2016, 10:05 AM
Marc, you can do better then this. This kind of posting is as valuable as my used toilet paper.

I travel quite a bit and I have laughed many times at individuals that felt compelled to criticize Bush with absolutely zero experience of living through the Bush years themselves. I lived through the Bush years and did very well until 2006 when congress changed it's leadership to Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, that was when the U.S. economy started to tank, the rest of the world followed suit shortly thereafter and many countries today are still trying to recover AND Bush had nothing to do with their demise. I did suffer as most of the country did after September 11th for quite a while when everyone was reluctant to invest their capital because of the unknown future.

This country came together after September 11th and yes, like or not .... Bush was a big part of getting this economy back on track. NO OTHER country in the world could have suffered such a hard financial hit and come back as fast as we did. I can tell you this ... if the United States of America is doing well ... the rest of the world does well, if we are not doing well ... neither is the rest of the world, that is a fact. If New Zealand ever needs help, I would bet that our White House phone would be ringing off the hook and not China's presidents phone.

I dont criticize or compliment foreign governments with the exception of those that I have lived under or done business with. I just lived through the most difficult 8 years of my life. I, like many others are worse off today then we were 10 years ago, that is reality not just a joke. I used to be a philanthropist until the government in recent years felt that they could spread my wealth better than I could. I vote for and support anyone that I feel has the experience and ability to lead this country regardless of their party affiliation. Stupid "one-liners" are not what most intelligent and successful individuals use to make their decisions to vote by. For me, the Bush years were great.

When my bank accounts get a HARD-ON ... and I see them grow bigger .... that there is indeed orgasmic reality and all other pleasures follow behind.

Time to go out for a ride .... later :cheers:

+1

taxfree4
12-03-2016, 07:46 PM
And the hits keep coming

taxfree4
12-03-2016, 07:47 PM
Ditto

taxfree4
12-03-2016, 07:49 PM
More

taxfree4
12-03-2016, 07:50 PM
Last batch...for now

stroguy
12-03-2016, 08:23 PM
That's not rosie.....she wears glasses.

taxfree4
12-03-2016, 09:42 PM
That's not rosie.....she wears glasses.
My mistake

Phantom
12-04-2016, 12:05 AM
Funny stuff .... :popcorn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkiudbI43iQ

taxfree4
12-04-2016, 02:48 AM
Funny stuff .... :popcorn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkiudbI43iQ

I believe that's Gwen Ifill, recently deceased PBS newscaster, running the mike. Obama probably had her whacked for picking that guy's question.

stroguy
12-04-2016, 07:29 AM
Funny stuff .... :popcorn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkiudbI43iQ

And that sums up what a blank resume President brings to the meeting. Still, not the smartest person in the room. Please get out of the way before you get hurt sir.

stroguy
12-04-2016, 08:38 AM
My all time favorite. I was watching this game when the babbler in charge couldn't remember any of his 'hometown' players. Blah, dah uh duh ah blah uh gah.

This may have been the last time they allowed him to hold a dangerous weapon in his hand that he couldn't use correctly. January cannot get here fast enough.

Kominskey Park?


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tX0PSoCTFas

taxfree4
12-05-2016, 08:06 PM
This ain't Melania but you can't eat steak every day, once in a while I like a little pork. This girl can fill out a bikini, every thread on that suit is holding on for dear life.

olegoat345
12-05-2016, 10:22 PM
Jez = after 8 years, when are you bigots going to give it a break.
I'm sure you'll all be praising Father Trump & kissing his feet, even after he put us in another depression, thousands of young GI's die for his war, unemployment hits 12% again, gas goes back to $4 gal, all you sheep will still be kissing his feet & singing praises to him.
He's a con man, it's that simple. He's just like Hitler. All he cares about is himself, money & power. Hail Trump! Hail Trump! come on start saying it, louder, louder HAIL TRUMP!! HAIL TRUMP!! you bunch of sheep.

F6Pilot
12-05-2016, 10:34 PM
...said the goat. :stirthepot:

ths61
12-05-2016, 10:38 PM
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Phantom
12-06-2016, 12:15 AM
Jez = after 8 years, when are you bigots going to give it a break.
I'm sure you'll all be praising Father Trump & kissing his feet, even after he put us in another depression, thousands of young GI's die for his war, unemployment hits 12% again, gas goes back to $4 gal, all you sheep will still be kissing his feet & singing praises to him.
He's a con man, it's that simple. He's just like Hitler. All he cares about is himself, money & power. Hail Trump! Hail Trump! come on start saying it, louder, louder HAIL TRUMP!! HAIL TRUMP!! you bunch of sheep.

Where did you buy that crystal ball? China ? .... Do we have Tarot cards?
Can you please forward me next weeks PowerBall numbers .... Thank You :icon_wink::yes:
Better yet, will Milania divorce trump and marry our beloved TaxFree? Will I be invited to the wedding?


we need to put all this hate aside and come together as a country.

Perhaps you need to practice what you preach and NOT paint everyone with the same paint brush. 99.9999% of our members are not bigots nor are we sheep, if you don't like a post or comment, just ignore it and just agree to disagree.

What's with all of the HATE in your post? Nothing in it implies that you have interest in seeing this country come together or do better then what it is currently doing. There is ALWAYS room for improvement. Grab a beer or two and just chill for the next 8 years :popcorn::cheers:

Now let's talk F6B's and why Melania likes the red F6B's :catfight: :icon_mrgreen:

taxfree4
12-06-2016, 05:13 AM
Jez = after 8 years, when are you bigots going to give it a break.
I'm sure you'll all be praising Father Trump & kissing his feet, even after he put us in another depression, thousands of young GI's die for his war, unemployment hits 12% again, gas goes back to $4 gal, all you sheep will still be kissing his feet & singing praises to him.
He's a con man, it's that simple. He's just like Hitler. All he cares about is himself, money & power. Hail Trump! Hail Trump! come on start saying it, louder, louder HAIL TRUMP!! HAIL TRUMP!! you bunch of sheep.

You mean he's going to give us 8 more years of Obama? I don't think he likes HAIL! I believe he prefers PRAISE TO YOU MYSTIC RULER.

stroguy
12-06-2016, 08:07 AM
Jez = after 8 years, when are you bigots going to give it a break.
I'm sure you'll all be praising Father Trump & kissing his feet, even after he put us in another depression, thousands of young GI's die for his war, unemployment hits 12% again, gas goes back to $4 gal, all you sheep will still be kissing his feet & singing praises to him.
He's a con man, it's that simple. He's just like Hitler. All he cares about is himself, money & power. Hail Trump! Hail Trump! come on start saying it, louder, louder HAIL TRUMP!! HAIL TRUMP!! you bunch of sheep.

Bigot? You don't need to open the thread fool. You choose to open it, so suck it. Go back under your rock and don't open this thread. Fools like you make me belly laugh using the bigot and racist claims. No intellectual ability to find the truth. Bigots? Too funny.

GNW
12-06-2016, 08:32 AM
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GNW
12-06-2016, 08:41 AM
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That is so funny, I just kill myself !!

BIGLRY
12-06-2016, 04:04 PM
Where did you buy that crystal ball? China ? .... Do we have Tarot cards?
Can you please forward me next weeks PowerBall numbers .... Thank You :icon_wink::yes:
Better yet, will Milania divorce trump and marry our beloved TaxFree? Will I be invited to the wedding?



Perhaps you need to practice what you preach and NOT paint everyone with the same paint brush. 99.9999% of our members are not bigots nor are we sheep, if you don't like a post or comment, just ignore it and just agree to disagree.

What's with all of the HATE in your post? Nothing in it implies that you have interest in seeing this country come together or do better then what it is currently doing. There is ALWAYS room for improvement. Grab a beer or two and just chill for the next 8 years :popcorn::cheers:

Now let's talk F6B's and why Melania likes the red F6B's :catfight: :icon_mrgreen:
+1
I wounder how vitriolic his response would be if the shoe was on the other foot and Hilda-beast had won and the Trump supporters were crying foul? I suppose in his simplistic deranged mind that having a lying, cheating, anti patriotic crook as president is preferred to one that is really... in a better way, going to change the way we do biz with the world.

3Chief
12-07-2016, 05:20 PM
Where did you buy that crystal ball? China ? .... Do we have Tarot cards?
Can you please forward me next weeks PowerBall numbers .... Thank You :icon_wink::yes:
Better yet, will Milania divorce trump and marry our beloved TaxFree? Will I be invited to the wedding?



Perhaps you need to practice what you preach and NOT paint everyone with the same paint brush. 99.9999% of our members are not bigots nor are we sheep, if you don't like a post or comment, just ignore it and just agree to disagree.

What's with all of the HATE in your post? Nothing in it implies that you have interest in seeing this country come together or do better then what it is currently doing. There is ALWAYS room for improvement. Grab a beer or two and just chill for the next 8 years :popcorn::cheers:

Now let's talk F6B's and why Melania likes the red F6B's :catfight: :icon_mrgreen:

+2 except she likes Matte Silver :icon_wink:

ths61
12-07-2016, 10:40 PM
Stein really isn't helping out Mrs. Bill Clinton's effort very well.

Day 3 of the Wisconsin recount has resulted in Hillary Clinton losing a staggering 18,422 votes, resulting in a huge victory for Donald Trump.

http://yournewswire.com/hillary-loses-thousands-wisconsin-recount/

stroguy
12-08-2016, 06:52 AM
Heil Trump! Oh, did I just say that?

GNW
12-14-2016, 10:35 AM
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