Now you have called us "whiners" and "lunatics". And I am a Veteran, in case you are interested. Not sure where you come up with that line about playing into foreign hands. Doesn't make any sense.
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I find it funny that he says this...then accuses everyone else of “attacking” people in the quote below.
The OP posts an article riddled with factual statistics and fourks brings up foreign meddling fake news BS that took dems two years plus to fail to prove. Fox News primarily reported it was a BS investigation from the start and CNN primarily reported Trump was going to prison. Who should we watch...?
No, I’m just attacking the stupid in this thread, the OP post is filled with accurate statistics but the way it’s worded and the jist of it is an attack on California and progressives. There is plenty of proof of foreign meddling in our election, even people sitting in jail for it.
So whats your argument FOR living in California? Its easy to find stuff we dont like about anything and everything. But what is it that we should like about it?
Not arguing for the sake of it, just trying to promote conversation and free thinking.
Not that the editorial posted had anything to do with foreign meddling, I assume you mean in our elections so I also hope you understand we do the exact same thing to other countries. Do you have a link to this “proof” and the names of the people sitting in jail for it? I admit I haven’t had TV since 2013 but I am an avid reader. I also find it telling when you’re called out for “attacking” and then follow it up by calling said attackers stupid. Why don’t you pick out a particular part of the article you disagree with and tell us on the opposite side of the aisle why.
"flee the devastation of California and join your culture, your values. Be wary, however, of those coming to bring their devastation to Arizona". Looks like we are suggesting a civil war? Whose culture and values are we defending? THis statement is stupid. If you can't take it, dont dish it.
Nothing particularly wrong with that statement. I assume by your previous posts you have no problem with Colorado becoming a liberal state with all the same benefits California offers its inhabitants. Is it the doubling of your property taxes, 5 dollar a gallon gas, 10% sales tax, social services being devoured by illegal aliens, horrible public schools, pensions that can never be paid, unaffordable houses, or the millions of homeless and poor that have a zero chance in the 3rd largest economy in the world. If you think CA is a success for the majority of its population I’d hate to know what you think a failure is. Not that it matters to you but I lived there and witnessed the slow rot for most, not all, and it’s real. My son still lives there, makes a good living, pays 3600.00 a month rent for a 1200 sq’ house yet can’t afford his own as the median home price where he works is over 1.2 million. Yes it’s a beautiful state but to think or believe any politician is properly running it is laughable. Sierra Mountains, hot job market, high wages, free thinkers. Why are there record numbers of people leaving?
I don't think any politician is running anything properly. One of the reasons i'm considering Trump who is finally enforcing the law and has the correct foreign policies. The socialist left scares me as much as the fascist right. So there has to be some common ground, and suggesting that fellow Americans could bring devastation in a state because of their views being different is un American.
We are way past the point of no return. Socialists are going for broke. Its all or nothing for them.
What will it take short of civil war to end this.
My 2 cents is worth only that.