Is anybody using an O-Ring as a throttle lock/cruise control? (ie:Catapillar part number 8M4991 silicone o-ring)
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Is anybody using an O-Ring as a throttle lock/cruise control? (ie:Catapillar part number 8M4991 silicone o-ring)
Had a couple Go Cruises on prior rides. Best bang for the buck as all I need is 'wrist break' every now and then. (Never use the cruise in my truck due to traffic, so it wouldn't be much different with a bike)
Had the Kury version of the throttle-meister. Pretty much a PITA to use.
Thought about the adjustable version of the go Cruise, but will stick with the 'original' and add my 'po boy anti-theft / adjustable tension device'
Run a small zip type through the large hole and down under the lower arm. Tighten for effect! LOL!
Bought a ten pack and used one briefly before purchasing the Adjustable Aluminum version of the Go-Cruise. I found that I can place a o-ring on both sides which acts as collars and stabilizes the GC.
A few pics for clarity!
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-------- is working on a plug and play electronic cruise,
he told me maybe 60 days out.
I got the Rostera cruise on my wife's F6 working. I did most everything the same as Pete and Barry in the early posts, so I appreciate their info. :bowdown: Here's a couple of things I did different:
1. I didn't use the relay switch for the brake "kill" switch and found that I could run a wire from the "Cold" pickup on the cruise to the back of the bike and get a true ground on the wire. The cold side coming from the rear wheel brake switch is on the front side of a solenoid under the seat, which didn't give me a full ground. If you pick up the wire that is after the solenoid that runs along the right frame, it will give you a true ground.
2. I also put on a clutch kill switch. (Part SW, CLUTCH CRUISE 35335-MG9-951) I ran a wire from the green wire (it's only about 10" long) that ends in the wire harness, to the clutch switch and then to a ground. Pretty simple and it kills the cruise control as soon as you touch the clutch. I think this is a little better then the over rev function.
3. I also bought the right controls (switches) off a wrecked bike and cannibalized the switches. When you do this, you have to swap the control body of the reverse switch and the cruise on/off switch. Careful when you pop these open, there's a little spring inside that loves to go flying. :lolup:
It was a lot of work, and not an easy add on, but I think my wife is going to love it.
Great job!!!!!!!
I am going to tackle mine this fall and may need to ask some questions if you don't mind.
Ask any questions that you want. That's what the forum is for.
Make sure that you have a factory service manual before you attempt this install.
I like the idea of the clutch switch as bstroh59 did, rather than the over-speed protection as I did. When I began this project (and believe me, it is a project), I wanted to invest as little $$ as possible, as I wasn't 100% sure that the install was going to be successful.
The Rostra cruise control switch is kind of small, so the Honda handle bar control would probably be the way to go if cost is not a factor. I will probably make these changes this winter. I have put several thousand miles on the bike with the Rostra control, so, at least I know the system works.
After 3 rides and a little over 400 miles........
1. First and foremost, the wife loves it!!!
2. I changed the gain to Extra Low from what Barry had. It still had a little bit of a surge, and changing this smoothed it out.
Taking a long trip next weekend, so we'll see how much it helps her on shoulder fatigue.
Regarding the brackets that need to be fabricated. Is there a template or diagram of some kind that can be used for the fabrication? I realize your guys have made this so if there is a price involved that would be understandable. If there is someone that can make one for a price that would be great as well!
Thanks.
Darryl
just installed the Brake Away Cruise.
Started a thread with some pics on the Accessories forum
Breakaway works great... Until Pete finishes his cruise control
Well as predicted by many the 2014's have nothing but a one color change so I broke down and ordered the parts to install cruise today.
For anyone interested I ordered the Rostra kit # 250-1223, and the pulse divider # 250-4379 from The Cruise Control Store. Getting these here saved me about $38.00 over Summit Racing. In total I will have a little over $320 in the major components. Everything is supposed to be in stock at both locations so as soon as they arrive the tear down and install will begin.....
Thanks to BARRYS770 for the list, and I am also going with the clutch Switch # 35335-MG9-951 as bstroh59 suggested.
Text with -------- Sunday, he said he would be getting a F6b in on Last Monday and would start making a cruise for it. Hopes to have it ready by Christmas.
jkelley: I posted Summit Racing as a "one-stop" shopping place for the parts that I used on my installation. You are correct to shop round for best price on the parts, as I did. Will you be using the Rostra control switch or a GoldWing throttle assembly? My intentions are to change my Rostra control over to a GW throttle assy. and to install the clutch switch. Good luck with your install.
Barry
Understood, the fact was that Summit did not have all of the components in stock or I probably would have used them. When searching I did find some better pricing and did not take the time for Summit to price match as I have done in the past. I use them for most of my vehicle builds so I am really happy with them shipping and matching prices. Like you I went with the Rostra control switch. Things may change in the future but I think it should work out fine. Now the big decision... Go ahead and tear it all down and paint it or get the cruise working and ride it? I would really like decent paint but I am not crazy about all the prep work and painting.
The brackets are really not that difficult but depend on where, and how you want the control unit mounted. Depending on your chosen location the bracket that comes with the unit can be bent, cut, welded as needed.
The bracket for the actual cable to the throttle body is as Barry did the dimensions are top hole = 5/16", Bottom hole (that fits over the lever arm) I went with 1/4" hole straight down .750"center to center from the top hole. For the cable mounting hole again I went with .250". This one is clocked about 4:30 and down 1.5" from the top mounting hole. (See Barry's picture.) I actually used a holly throttle arm from Summit as it already had the offset in it and mounted the carb stud Barry listed. I chopped off the threads and tig welded it to the bracket so nothing was sticking out the back side.
I also used .060 stock with an offset ( holly arm ) a star washer, and the stock nut. Now my weak point tying up the electrical connections. :shock:
For the Rostra cruise control switches I did not use a bracket, I Simply disassembled the switch housing and mounted it in the stock Goldwing location with some 4-40 screws, and ran the wires out of the right switch housing and down the handle bars inside the wire retainer that is already there. Snapped the cover back on and I think it looks great. I still need to seal the unit after testing though. Be sure you mount so that you don't interfere with the start switch......
I have all of the parts needed to install Rostra cruise on my 6. The snow will be flying here soon and I'll have a few months of relatively snowy roads to take on the project.
I ordered most of my parts from Summit... The shipped to me from two different locations and charged me ten dollars to ship one item that retailed for 1.49... I am a bit disgusted
This is my cruise control by Breakaway and I love mine :041::clap2::icon_biggrin::yes::motorcycle2:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps880819a9.jpg
Job done! Add me to the list of "have REAL cruise control".
Thanks to Barry!!!!!!! He was VERY helpful and for all the work and time he took to list the components and take the pictures. I doubt I could have done it without all of that information. And to bstroh59 for the clutch switch idea.
It was a major job, but I also took advantage of the down time to complete the disassembly of the bike and repaint it. And for someone like me that has never worked on a Goldwing I was amazed at the complexity and amount of all of the plastic parts. Not too sure I would want to do it again any time soon, but real happy with the outcome and getting the job done.
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Rode about 100 Miles Yesterday, Cruise works perfectly!
I have the Go Cruise (aluminum model) as well and, as far as mechanical throttle locks are concerned, this one works well. I do have a pretty serious concern about this type of cruise control however which is this...due to the spring return of the throttle, we are not accustomed to having to forcibly close the throttle. In a panic situation, will you have the presence of mind to do that? No doubt, you will hit the brakes but unless you force the throttle closed, the engine will continue to propel you forward thus making your braking less effective. I experienced this returning from Daytona when a car suddenly cut me off on I-95 and I had only an instant to respond. I escaped but realized the deficiency of a throttle lock like the Go Cruise. Just sayin'...
I had simply not removed the "friction throttle lock" go cruise or what ever. I did not like any of them. I had the break away as well and all of them in my opinion while useful on a flat road to get your hand free for a limited time were useless here in the mountains and as you said "could" cause issues in some circumstances. If you look at the switches on the control housing I have actually as a few others installed REAL cruise control!
this is the only true solution thus far to my issue of wanting cruise control on this otherwise great bike.
That's a good point and I think I would normally do that as well. In the particular incident I experienced, I honestly don't remember what I did with the clutch. Clearly, I didn't pull it in fast enough because I remember the engine pulling for a split second more than I wanted and it almost got me in trouble.
BARRYS770;
Great job, and good info. I installed this same unit on my Rune, and am really pleased with it.Quote:
Gain: low
Pulses/Mile: 19,300
Engine/set up: 4 cylinder low
VSS Source: Square wave
Tranmission: Manual
Control Sw: Open
Curious why you set the "engine/set up" at 4 cylinder instead of 6.
What is the minimum speed you can set with the pulses/mile setting at 19,300 ?
Thanks.
When I started this project, there wasn't any information available for installing a cruise control on the F6B. I had installed an Audiovox unit on an ST1300 and the Rostra unit on a couple of Street Rods, so I had somewhat of an idea as to what was ahead of me. Even though I was familiar with the cruise control units and confident that it could be made to work, I knew from the beginning that this was going to be an experiment that might not work out.
I arrived at the settings primarily by experimenting with different settings. The 6 cylinder setting made the bike surge once the cruise was engauged. So, I set it 4 cylinder, low which eliminated the surging while the cruise was set. My after further testing, I settled on the following settings;
Gain: Very Low
Pulses/mile: 19,300
Engine/ Set up: 4 cylinder Low
VSS: Square Wave
Transmission: Manual
Control Switch: Open
Thanks Barry, that info will help me fine tune mine.
so what has been released for a real electric cruise that I can buy and install? did I sleep through an announcement?
All variable, depending on exactly where and how you want the control box mounted, and your choice of throttle hook up. If you have heated grips or not the location can be different.
Same with the switches, some want them on the left, others like me on the right. Not that hard to do. If you have the skills to tear the bike down and do the electrical I would think making the brackets would be pretty simple. I think the MC Cruise does include them. It also looks like they have simplified the electrical work?
I have fitted a MC cruise and just love it, it comes complete with brackets and a very comprehensive set of instructions, by just following the instruction I was able to do this by myself, took about 18 hrs but I took my time and read the instruction very carefully and often.
MC told me a competent Honda mech a can do them in about 5 hrs.
It works like a treat, it has not faulted on my 8,000 km trip around Aust so far.
I ordered my -------- yesterday.
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/016...G?v=1392093662
Will take some time, till it hits germany from australia, but as soon as i have it installed, i will let you know about my experience with this system.